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Whalley posted:Being a star trek fan means embracing your masochism. None of us have ever enjoyed the first season of a trek - not even me, who thinks the Xindi arc of Enterprise is better than all of TOS and a fair chunk of Voyager
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simplefish posted:Honestly it's taken a while for all Star Treks to get good, so Disco has until S3 to get some positive fan reaction or I'm just never gonna bother. I'm pretty content without Discovery, not to mention I don't really like to follow along with conventional fan wisdom. At this point it'd have to be like universally acclaimed for me to give it another shot.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Not even replace the entire person. Just the part of the datastream which is the mind. Have the transporter chief be a replacement already so he can quickly brief the new gestalt on who they appear to be. Black Mirror clearly needs to do a second Star trek episode, this is some sinister poo poo
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:I'm pretty content without Discovery, not to mention I don't really like to follow along with conventional fan wisdom. At this point it'd have to be like universally acclaimed for me to give it another shot. For the first time in my life, I have zero interest in new Star Trek. They've managed to finally kill what curiosity I had about that fictional universe, at least for the time being. Hopefully that'll change as they continue to throw poo poo at the wall to see what sticks since, once again, they have little else to prop up their I hold no real hope since even if they listen to "the fans" there's too high a chance that they'll just end up making empty headed fanwank for hordes of quasi-fascist nerds who think that feminists and gay people are pissing in their corn flakes. The combined drama of that horror and the behind the scenes fiasco are actually more compelling to me than anything they've filmed. Also gently caress "give it till season 3!" The tv landscape has changed and we have years and years of these kinds of shows behind us. it's 2018 and if your series takes three seasons to "find itself" by now then your show sucks.
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I can't foresee myself going out of my way to watch Discovery again unless I really hear good buzz. I'll watch Picard from the get-go just because loving Picard and the TNG era are literally the only things that could have brought me back, so chalk a victory up to the bean counters on that one I guess. The cartoon... ehhhhhh
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Cojawfee posted:Even with the new shows? There's going to be the Picard show, the animated lower decks show. It seems like they want each show to be very different from the others. It takes more than just the name "Star Trek" to get me in the door at this point. I'm firmly in the "we'll see" camp on any new projects with the current creative team.
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Cojawfee posted:Even with the new shows? There's going to be the Picard show, the animated lower decks show. It seems like they want each show to be very different from the others. Honestly I'm too cynical for the The Picard Show thing to do anything other than make me laugh. Remember when they announced it? "Oh uh... you didn't like our big 90's comicbook style grimdark tone deaf relaunch of the brand? Um... gently caress. Here's Patrick Stewart, you nerds liked him right? Oh no we don't have any writers or a director or even a story pitch yet but... P-Stew! Professor X! No we didn't just throw buckets of money at him, whatever do you mean?!" I'm not saying that it will for sure be terrible but the whole thing wreaks of desperation. It might be nice to see the TNG era again provided they don't gently caress it up somehow but right now all I'm hearing are a bunch of muffled handjob noises coming from CBS head office so
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Tighclops posted:right now all I'm hearing are a bunch of muffled handjob noises coming from CBS head office so P sure they fired that guy
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Real talk though, the Picard show may turn out to be crap but it does have Michael Chabon writing, who is vastly more legit than anyone else who has written for Star Trek in this millennium.
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skasion posted:P sure they fired that guy Hahaha holy gently caress lmao
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Every time I see "the Captain Picard Show" I imagine a late night talk show hosted by Picard
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Pakled posted:Every time I see "the Captain Picard Show" I imagine a late night talk show hosted by Picard I’d watch it. Sounds like Space Ghost
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skasion posted:I’d watch it. Sounds like Space Ghost I was just going to say, Captain Picard Coast to Coast
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Picard: Our next guest claims to be a sentient hologram, having just returned from the Delta quadrant. We have our own experiences with sentient holograms, don't we Mr Data? Data: You are correct, sir. Picard: That one didn't go so well. Data: YES!
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Black Mirror clearly needs to do a second Star trek episode, this is some sinister poo poo Seriously, there's so much you could do with a transported person while they're in the datastream. Delete a valve in their heart? Give them cancer? Put them in a coma? We already know they can split people into versions of themselves, clone people entirely, fuse different beings into a new one, remove diseases, deactivate weapons. Transporters are a terrifying thing. Imagine materializing somewhere and over the following minutes, your hand goes numb and pales out while a massive bruise starts forming at your elbow, all because it hosed up when reassembling you and misaligned an artery.
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I'm all in on the Picard Show day one, I'll pay for a CBS stream thing, whatever gets the message across that we want old star trek not dumb discovery dumb Play to my nostalgia, I don't care. I love Orville because it's just an entire show repeatedly screaming "hey remember that thing you liked here's more of it." Star Trek could make me real happy with a better show, this is the only way I can get get my voice heard.
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At least wait until the Picard show proves it's worth before you throw money at them
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I don't put myself through the bullshit of working 50 hours a week to be responsible with my money okay
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Seriously, there's so much you could do with a transported person while they're in the datastream. Delete a valve in their heart? Give them cancer? Put them in a coma? We already know they can split people into versions of themselves, clone people entirely, fuse different beings into a new one, remove diseases, deactivate weapons. Transporters are a terrifying thing. Imagine materializing somewhere but all your sensory input nerves have been mis-aligned, so you're still alive but the only thing you can do is think
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Imagine materializing somewhere and you're still alive and may have to live indefinitely afterwards
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Imagine materializing somewhere and everything's perfect except they hosed up your tattoos so now your skin has way more (or less) dongs all over
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Whalley posted:Imagine materializing somewhere and everything's perfect except they hosed up your tattoos so now your skin has way more (or less) dongs all over "Aww, Miles! My fuckin dongs!!"
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Imagine materializing somewhere but you end up with jpeg artifacts
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Imagine there's no Sto'Vo'Kor, it's easy if you try
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Brawnfire posted:Imagine materializing somewhere and you're still alive and may have to live indefinitely afterwards Whoa, this is even worse than that bit from TMP
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skasion posted:Whoa, this is even worse than that bit from TMP "What we got back was perfectly healthy and lived for a long time." "My god."
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Picard: Our next guest claims to be a sentient hologram, having just returned from the Delta quadrant. We have our own experiences with sentient holograms, don't we Mr Data? Make. It. So.
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Tighclops posted:Honestly I'm too cynical for the The Picard Show thing to do anything other than make me laugh. Remember when they announced it? I'm not super optimistic considering the last time we saw the TNG era it was fat Riker party crashing the Enterprise finale. I could probably get behind a Captain Picard talk show though.
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CPColin posted:"What we got back was perfectly healthy and lived for a long time." hosed up if true.
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Well, Discovery has clearly shown a willingness to crib from the Orville with season two, maybe Picard Trek will give them more license to go even further into brightly lit space socialism territory
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Whalley posted:I'm all in on the Picard Show day one, I'll pay for a CBS stream thing, whatever gets the message across that we want old star trek not dumb discovery dumb That's the thing, though, I don't necessarily want old Star Trek in 2018+. Something named Star Trek and featuring Patrick Stewart doesn't automatically make it good, viz. the last (at least) two things named Star Trek and featuring Patrick Stewart.
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Old Star Trek is comically dated. Why would you want more of that? I say this as someone who spends far too much time and money on Trek. What the hell?
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I want old Star Trek philosophical values with modern production values, tackling contemporary topics.
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Bar Association is a straight up pro-union episode, like it doesn't even do a "both sides" thing; unions are good and the FCA is a bunch of jerks. Doubtful we'll ever see something like that again.
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Ira Behr posted another update today with a new HD DS9 clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztEgRsTD0KQ&t=123s
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Pick posted:I know people who I know people who think Trump is doing a great job
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There's parts of it that should work in theory. I like Lwaxana but she's always stuck with bad storylines. I never quite buy it when Odo gets "emotional"; he's best when he's grumbling around and solving poo poo. The stuff with Jake and The Muse is just kind of there. Mostly I was just bored. Let's get back to some Dominion/Klingon/Cardassian action!
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