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cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Really Pants posted:

what's a sex

it's latin for six

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RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




So, I have obtained Berseria and man, after spending weeks on DQ11 not having a sprint or jump button is really throwing me off.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

cheetah7071 posted:

it's latin for six

sexty-nine :laugh:

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
Alright time for meruru new game plus

e: i lied

corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Dec 22, 2018

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

has science gone too far?

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

CYBEReris posted:

has science gone too far?



CubeTheory
Mar 26, 2010

Cube Reversal

CYBEReris posted:

has science gone too far?



I don't understand. Where are the aviators?

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
Instead of an atelier E&T should have a laboratory.

... cuz their chemistry is so good.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Okay, I can see why people just used Consuming Claw throughout the game now, because this is a lot of customization to keep on top of.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

RareAcumen posted:

Okay, I can see why people just used Consuming Claw throughout the game now, because this is a lot of customization to keep on top of.

you, really don't need to think about it too much. just use whatever the newest equipment you've got is and leave arte trees on auto if you don't want to mess around with them

berseria has a lot of fluff in its menus because it's trying to untangle an entire game of obtuse menus and mechanics but in execution the game's balance means most of it is, just fluff. weapons that give random boosts of damage to certain enemy types will never be something you have to actually think about

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
Berseria is built on Zesty's awful systems and combat and equipment, and their solution was to just make Velvet so powerful that you can ignore everything. Which is fine but yeah there's a lot of mechanics that don't ever matter

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

corn in the bible posted:

Alright time for meruru new game plus

e: i lied



congratulations on playing the best atelier game

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

I mean it's not like you suddenly need to pay attention to that stuff if you play anyone else. All the other characters are busted too. Eizen just instantly nukes random encounters the instant he gets a stun or knockdown and 90% of his moves have those. Don't feel like you have to play Velvet and only Velvet.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
berseria character guides

velvet: nukes enemies if she's angry
eizen: nukes enemies if they fall on their butt
laphicet: nukes enemies if they walk
magilou: nukes enemies if they use magic
rokurou: nukes enemies if they attack
eleanor: knocks enemies into the air, then nukes them

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
zaveid: does a finger gun at a guy dying of a horrible disease 200 years in the future

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Zaveid is my spirit animal

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




The Colonel posted:

you, really don't need to think about it too much. just use whatever the newest equipment you've got is and leave arte trees on auto if you don't want to mess around with them

berseria has a lot of fluff in its menus because it's trying to untangle an entire game of obtuse menus and mechanics but in execution the game's balance means most of it is, just fluff. weapons that give random boosts of damage to certain enemy types will never be something you have to actually think about

corn in the bible posted:

Berseria is built on Zesty's awful systems and combat and equipment, and their solution was to just make Velvet so powerful that you can ignore everything. Which is fine but yeah there's a lot of mechanics that don't ever matter

Endorph posted:

I mean it's not like you suddenly need to pay attention to that stuff if you play anyone else. All the other characters are busted too. Eizen just instantly nukes random encounters the instant he gets a stun or knockdown and 90% of his moves have those. Don't feel like you have to play Velvet and only Velvet.

More specifically, I was just talking about all the variations on monster types now and how all the artes have properties to them. Use this one if the enemy is armored/a beast/demihuman/winged etc. Like, I can set up everyone's arte flow to have something for everything easily within reach or I can swap to Velvet, turn my brain off and turn Consuming Claw on and wipe out the encounter in ten seconds.

It also doesn't help that the part assembles remarkably fast too so just as I'm still not quite sure how to use Rokudou, Malak No. 2 shows up and Eizan hops into the party bus four minutes later.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
you really don't need to worry about any of those properties for like 95% of the game and any time where you would have to worry about them you can just get past by setting the difficulty lower, just bounce between characters it takes like a half hour to get used to each of them at most

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

I literally never once paid attention to the anti-type attributes on artes. Also all the other party members wipe encounters in ten seconds too, even the healet

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



What if Fallout 1/2 but set in the Soviet Union? :ussr:

I haven't tried it yet, but it looks good and it'll definitely be the next game I play.

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Took me longer than anticipated because I'm a completionist, but I finished Ys VIII finally and it was bittersweet. It was definitely a game that grew on me, and I'm going to get around to doing an NG+ Nightmare run next year (saving money means going back to old favorites!). Pretty sure it will also snag a spot on my top 10 games played this year.

I tried to activate a trial of PS Now to check out Atelier Ayesha but it looks like it won't let me without putting in my credit card info- which Sony still refuses to accept for ???? reasons for years now (which restricts me to gift cards with sony services). Does anyone know if getting a month of PS Now from a physical card also requires having billing info on file? Although for $20 I could probably just buy a new game outright and kind of defeats my hopes of using the trial as a demo.

I'm still curious about the Atelier series though, and was thinking that I could get a physical copy of Sophie for under $30, is that something that would be a good introduction?

Edit: I made the mistake of searching for info on Sophie and came across some poo poo that made me uncomfortable even after being on this site for over a decade. Its making me question my interest in the series because on the one hand I'm thinking "chill and charming looking slice of life, like a JRPG Harvest Moon thats presumably LGBT friendly from the chat here" and on the other hand I'm wondering if it is just some weird fetish thing. Or both. But yeah, I like the premise but reading about it outside of this thread is giving me second thoughts.

Cinnamon Bear fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Dec 22, 2018

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

Cinnamon Bear posted:

Edit: I made the mistake of searching for info on Sophie and came across some poo poo that made me uncomfortable even after being on this site for over a decade. Its making me question my interest in the series because on the one hand I'm thinking "chill and charming looking slice of life, like a JRPG Harvest Moon thats presumably LGBT friendly from the chat here" and on the other hand I'm wondering if it is just some weird fetish thing. Or both. But yeah, I like the premise but reading about it outside of this thread is giving me second thoughts.

It is true that people in this thread are borderline obsessed with yuri and will recommend games regardless of quality but Sophie is a good game

Renoistic
Jul 27, 2007

Everyone has a
guardian angel.
The Atelier games are (generally) fine as long as you just play the base games and ignore everything else about them. And the numerous 'groping is hilarious' jokes which tend to show up in anime/manga regardless of genre or target audience. 'High impact sexual violence' and all that.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
plachta's outfit is extremely questionable and they keep shoehorning in hot springs, both of which i do hate deeply

Renoistic
Jul 27, 2007

Everyone has a
guardian angel.
Note that when I say 'Atelier games' I just mean the Dusk trilogy :v: I haven't bothered with anything after Shallie partly due to Plachta.

I'm not a fan of hot spring scenes but if you can't learn to ignore their presence you should just skip everything with a manga / anime aestethic. Which is fine, I really couldn't blame you :v:

Renoistic fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Dec 22, 2018

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Alright, thanks for the heads up, I've had a long day and forgot the internet is a cesspool and maybe I shouldn't dig too deeply.

Not hot springs or outfits, but one of the first results I came across was a discussion about Sophie's mechanics and a few posts in were guys talking about how much they want to lick and drink their blood and then posting some weird hentai art poo poo of the characters. I just wanted to know about mechanics!

Cinnamon Bear fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Dec 22, 2018

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

Cinnamon Bear posted:

Alright, thanks for the heads up, I've had a long day and forgot the internet is a cesspool and maybe I shouldn't dig too deeply.

I'm curious, what did you even see?

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Cinnamon Bear posted:

Alright, thanks for the heads up, I've had a long day and forgot the internet is a cesspool and maybe I shouldn't dig too deeply.

Not hot springs or outfits, but one of the first results I came across was a discussion about Sophie's mechanics and a few posts in were guys talking about how much they want to lick and drink their blood and then posting some weird hentai art poo poo of the characters. I just wanted to know about mechanics!

Where the gently caress did you look for information

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

It is true that people in this thread are borderline obsessed with yuri and will recommend games regardless of quality but Sophie is a good game

Lies, I would never actually recommend Nights of Azure 2 to anyone

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

Sakurazuka posted:

Lies, I would never actually recommend Nights of Azure 2 to anyone

For my counterpoint, I would like to present the following evidence: thread title

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

For my counterpoint, I would like to present the following evidence: thread title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQttiYPs8w

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Cinnamon Bear posted:

Alright, thanks for the heads up, I've had a long day and forgot the internet is a cesspool and maybe I shouldn't dig too deeply.

Not hot springs or outfits, but one of the first results I came across was a discussion about Sophie's mechanics and a few posts in were guys talking about how much they want to lick and drink their blood and then posting some weird hentai art poo poo of the characters. I just wanted to know about mechanics!
yeah uhhh, none of that is at all related to anything that comes up in the games and you're gonna get stuff like that for anything

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

It is true that people in this thread are borderline obsessed with yuri
borderline obsessed with yuri here meaning 'are lesbians'

Yakiniku Teishoku
Mar 16, 2011

Peace On Egg

Cinnamon Bear posted:

Alright, thanks for the heads up, I've had a long day and forgot the internet is a cesspool and maybe I shouldn't dig too deeply.

Not hot springs or outfits, but one of the first results I came across was a discussion about Sophie's mechanics and a few posts in were guys talking about how much they want to lick and drink their blood and then posting some weird hentai art poo poo of the characters. I just wanted to know about mechanics!

yikes I thought you had just seen the quote about feet in Blue Reflection or something, but no, there's nothing in the games relating to that kind of thing. you just stumbled into like a disney porn enclave or something

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Sakurazuka posted:

Lies, I would never actually recommend Nights of Azure 2 to anyone

For what it's worth, I laughed :allears:.

Yakiniku Teishoku
Mar 16, 2011

Peace On Egg
as far as vaguely LGBT friendly there's some weirdly het comments in a couple of the games but I like to think that's just posturing because Regina knows Ayesha isn't ready to settle down yet

i also agree with the reading that escha is the only one interested in dudes (or just logy)

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

whatever you do op be VERY careful about which pokemon you google

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

I wish I cared enough about the fiction of video games to give a gently caress whether or not characters were dating

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



RazzleDazzleHour posted:

I wish I cared enough about the fiction of video games to give a gently caress whether or not characters were dating
I'm glad I don't.

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I think I'm getting old. I'm failing basic internet competence now. Sorry for the sidetrack.

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Yakiniku Teishoku
Mar 16, 2011

Peace On Egg

Commander Keene posted:

I'm glad I don't.

imagine caring about a thing lol, like why even, just go outside

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