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jobson groeth
May 17, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

Cythereal posted:

It's so hard to be a man these days.

This is a little too on the nose.

:69snypa:

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Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know

Hellblazer187 posted:

It wasn't dudes reading 50 Shades.

It wasn't dudes reading erotica, period

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Cythereal posted:

It looks like I'm losing my family, all my respect at church, and the love of my life, all because I said yes to that slut. It's so hard to be a man these days.
:bisonyes:

Freudian
Mar 23, 2011

Taima posted:

It wasn't dudes reading erotica, period

Speak for yourself.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Freudian posted:

Speak for yourself.

Yeah I switched to reading erotica because I can't watch porn without worrying I'm watching sex trafficking victims

Miserable Maid
Apr 22, 2010

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Freudian posted:

Speak for yourself.

Yeah, erotica is pretty great, and like DrunkNerds said you don't have to feel guilty about actresses being taken advantage of

Araenna
Dec 27, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

SciFiDownBeat posted:

I think this is one of those things where it's much easier to say how you should react rather than how you really would react. I mean in this specific situation the church is clearly a toxic environment and this guy is an rear end in a top hat (assuming it's even real), but I think one could understand someone having a negative reaction to being told by their partner that their marriage is a sham. Especially if kids are part of the picture.

There's a difference between a negative reaction, and just refusing to have any empathy at all. It's not just that he's reacting negatively, it's that he doesn't care about his wife as a person, at all. She is His Wife, and all that matters is that she continues to be His Wife. I'm going to comfortably assume I'd probably not react the way he did, because he is a poo poo person.

I'm also not sure how betrayed I would need to feel to not feel lovely about something like the fact that every time my wife had sex with me, she was probably forcing herself and feeling like poo poo the entire time. Maybe if they killed my parents or something? Cheating on me after I pushed them into a threesome, after marrying me because they had to repress their sexuality due to religion, probably wouldn't be enough though.

Edit: Not saying I wouldn't be angry or irrational, just that I can't imagine just.. not caring at all? In any way?

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Burt Sexual posted:

I was trying to think of circumstances where I’d come into a substantial 5 figure windfall with no traceability. Bonuses would through my company and their bank, inheriting would likely come from a trust/bank, selling a car for cash? Personally I wouldn’t take cash for a car, probably only a cashiers cheque or whatever from a bank. I don’t want your counterfeit bitcoin money.

Could you buy 10000 dollars in gold bars, bury them in your walls, "find" them and sell it to a reputable person for cash? I guess the problem then is the initial purchase which would need to be done under the table somewhere

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Araenna posted:


I'm also not sure how betrayed I would need to feel to not feel lovely about something like the fact that every time my wife had sex with me, she was probably forcing herself and feeling like poo poo the entire time. Maybe if they killed my parents or something? Cheating on me after I pushed them into a threesome, after marrying me because they had to repress their sexuality due to religion, probably wouldn't be enough though.

Edit: Not saying I wouldn't be angry or irrational, just that I can't imagine just.. not caring at all? In any way?

You're martyring yourself pretty hard here and assuming a lot about lesbians and it's weird sorry

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

SciFiDownBeat posted:

I think this is one of those things where it's much easier to say how you should react rather than how you really would react. I mean in this specific situation the church is clearly a toxic environment and this guy is an rear end in a top hat (assuming it's even real), but I think one could understand someone having a negative reaction to being told by their partner that their marriage is a sham. Especially if kids are part of the picture.

Look, I obviously don't know how I'd react if I'd been raised in a system where women were basically property, and this was accepted fact by everyone I knew; I'm just saying I can't emphasize with this guy's reaction at all. Plus, he posts on reddit, and I feel like anyone who's online enough to have r/relationships as a line of defense should have come across the idea that women are people somewhere down the road. It's not exactly esoteric knowledge.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

Meme Emulator posted:

Could you buy 10000 dollars in gold bars, bury them in your walls, "find" them and sell it to a reputable person for cash? I guess the problem then is the initial purchase which would need to be done under the table somewhere

If you know someone who can get you $10,000 worth of gold on the down low, that person probably also knows someone who launders money.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

I was pulled over after 12AM. I was speeding. My bumper sticker is Rasta & says ‘Positive’.

I passed every Field sobriety test that was administered to me & Blew a .000 in AZ ; the Zero-Tolerance State. I was very respectful to the officers as they searched me and I even allowed them to search my entire vehicle. They did not Believe me as I continued to tell them “I Am Sober”. They booked me in Jail and took my Blood. Here’s my Question.... If THC metabolites stay in your blood for up to 1 month, How can that blood test prove to them I was under the influence..? Thanks in Advance for serious responses. My Court date is next month. The Test came back Positive for THC metabolites.

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

Miserable Maid posted:

Yeah, erotica is pretty great, and like DrunkNerds said you don't have to feel guilty about actresses being taken advantage of

Made up people are real people too~

The video-game situation is probably not that uncommon. People get upset when they feel ignored, even people who are not young, depressed or checked out of the relationship. The dude could have been upset that she's on her phone all the time, and she could have been upset that he's stalking off to play videogames as soon as they come home. Maybe they were tired, maybe they had plans and hopes for the evening or maybe they were just sick of seeing the same behavior all the time.

Doubling down instead of letting it go, or talking it out, and then letting it turn into a break-up situation definitely means they're young, depressed or checked out of the relationship though.

Araenna posted:

I'm also not sure how betrayed I would need to feel to not feel lovely about something like the fact that every time my wife had sex with me, she was probably forcing herself and feeling like poo poo the entire time. Maybe if they killed my parents or something? Cheating on me after I pushed them into a threesome, after marrying me because they had to repress their sexuality due to religion, probably wouldn't be enough though.

Edit: Not saying I wouldn't be angry or irrational, just that I can't imagine just.. not caring at all? In any way?

Dude is definitely a dick (if he's even real), but we don't have to be extremely charitable to imagine that he must have had hopes and dreams, as well as more than a little self-worth invested in the relationship. Maybe he would have reacted with more compassion had she come out before the relationship ended, and before what he sees as a betrayal, or maybe he would have just said some crazy christian poo poo, who knows. In either case, breakups bring out the worst in people.

thotsky fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Dec 26, 2018

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

Bf (23m) of more than a year & a half made insensitive joke at Christmas dinner. I (22f) don’t know if I’m overreacting.

For the past two years, my family’s been caught up in the trial of the man who indecently attacked my little brother (I have to use euphemistic wording because of this sub’s rules). The offense happened when my brother was 9... he just turned 11 in November. Early on My parents decided to reject a plea deal where the man would only serve two years with three years probation... my parents in conjunction with the prosecutor chose a trial because my brother said he was okay to testify. I still don’t know if it was the right decision to let him go on the stand. Although the man was sentenced to 30 years, I know the trial was very traumatic for my little brother.

Anyway, my bf of 1yr 7 mos knows what my family’s been going through. He came to Christmas and things were going great until my boyfriend made this joke over the dinner table to my BIL.

BIL: (light joke about an attractive female teacher he had in school - my sister [his wife] laughed too) My BF: Yeah, we had a teacher like that. He was so cool, he even dated a student or two... Then a whole bunch of other kids came forward. Kind of ruined 8th grade for us.

I realized later when I talked to him it’s a joke from the Office, but in the moment it put everything at a standstill. My heart sank and everyone just focused on their food. I don’t know why he thought that was the time or place to repeat that joke.

I talked to him alone afterwards and he said it meant nothing and I’m trying to create a conflict where there doesn’t need to be one. I don’t know why he thinks I’d crave conflict when I just want everyone to enjoy some peace and happiness after what we’ve been through.

Am I being over sensitive? I feel so unsettled about it.

TLDR BF of 1.7y made a tasteless joke/reference knowing our family’s going through a hard time that’s related to the joke topic. I don’t know if I’m being too sensitive by reacting poorly. Bf thinks I am.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!

No, she’s not being too sensitive, :sever: his dick off

Jack-Off Lantern
Mar 2, 2012

Pick posted:

my female friends do that all the time so i guess we're just going to live in the giant lesbian makeout house where ppl have manners and flersh the toilate

I salute this decision, you do you, guurl

andrew smash
Jun 26, 2006

smooth soul
Am I the rear end in a top hat is a relatively untapped mine of quality posts. Behold:

AITA for not wanting to pay for my stepkid's education despite paying for my own kid?

quote:

My husband and I have one daughter, age 7, and he has two older sons from a previous marriage (11 and 15). They currently live with us but had been living with his mom up until about 2 years ago. Their mom is really messed up, addicted to drugs now and on the brink of death basically due to her addictions. My husband has largely cut ties with his ex-wife but is obviously still responsible for his sons.

So here's my current dilemma: I want to send my daughter to private school, starting next year. It'll be expensive, like 15k a year, but I've talked to my husband and we can spare the money because we want our daughter to get a top-tier education. However, a few weeks ago my husband confronted me about potentially paying for his younger son's schooling as well. His oldest being in high school already is uninterested in switching schools but his younger son is apparently not opposed to the idea. I was upset because he told his son this without even telling me.

Between our salaries, we can only really afford one kid to go to a 15k/year school. I'm a bit upset because sending our daughter to private was always part of the plan, and yet my husband just casually floated the idea to his son only for him to say "ok sure." And now that we've done the math we realize that we can't at all afford 30k on tuition. I still want to send my daughter to that school because we've promised her so since she was about 5, but my husband says either both kids go or neither does. I feel like he's intentionally sabotaging our daughter's chances and it's making me really upset. However I get that he wants the best for his kid as well but I resent how casually it was raised and how his son responded so casually to his dad's question.

I want to issue an ultimatum to my husband. Basically we pay for our daughter's schooling first and foremost because we made the promise to her first, and I want my husband to tell his son the bad news because he was the one that promised him something neither of us could deliver. AITA for thinking this is a good plan?

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

Apparently, my(26F) bf(27M) is a drug dealer.

I am in a relationship with this guy for 5 and a half years. I love him a lot, even thought he gave me enough reasons not to. He smokes weed. A lot. I know that and I tolerate it. But, this spring, he encountered some issues with the law, as it is not legal where we live. He found out 3 weeks ago that he will be on trial for that. I tried to be as supportive as I could, but it also affected me. I mean, it's our future.

Today, we went out with some of his friends and he got drunk. And he told me that he got busted for posession of not only marijuana but also amphetamine. And that he had been dealing weed since before we've met.

I don't know what to do. I feel betrayed, lied to and dissapointed. I pictured a life together and he... I just don't know anymore. How to deal with a situation like this? He lied to me for that many years. How did I not know? Am I that stupid? What have I done with my life?

Tl;dr: I just had a surprise.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

How do I [22F] deal with a guy [31M] who is very good at pretending to not be creepy?

So this guy used to be one of my closest friends and recently broke up with his girlfriend. Then he turned the creepiness dial up to 100, but he does it in such a way that it leaves me no way to properly call him out or respond to it. I need help and advice on how to navigate this situation.

Examples:

"I don't mean to sound disrespectful of your relationship with bf, but you're beautiful and I would go after you the minute you're single"
"I don't want to sound like I'm gaslighting you, but... <Proceeds to gaslight me>"
"can I have one of your cups so I can drink from it when I am thinking about you and get some of your energy? I hope that's not creepy or anything."
"I feel like we're in a relationship already... We care about each other so much we feel like lovers... But only platonically of course. I value you so much as a friend"
Just a lot of stuff like that with explicitly thirsty undertones but he always pads it with "I hope I'm not being creepy" or "there's no way I would ever thirst after you btw, I'm not that kind of guy, but you have such beautiful legs".

TL;DR My friend always says weird/creepy stuff but says it in a way thats always "friendly" or "non creepy" that makes it hard to call out and I need help on how to properly deal with it.

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.
Don't make promises worth tens of thousands of dollars to 5 year olds, although we all know the daughter isn't the one that's actually upset about this.

Leon Einstein fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Dec 26, 2018

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

Smirking_Serpent posted:

Bf (23m) of more than a year & a half made insensitive joke at Christmas dinner. I (22f) don’t know if I’m overreacting.

That kid is a hero and that bf should get smacked in the face and dumped

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Smirking_Serpent posted:

I was pulled over after 12AM. I was speeding. My bumper sticker is Rasta & says ‘Positive’.

I passed every Field sobriety test that was administered to me & Blew a .000 in AZ ; the Zero-Tolerance State. I was very respectful to the officers as they searched me and I even allowed them to search my entire vehicle. They did not Believe me as I continued to tell them “I Am Sober”. They booked me in Jail and took my Blood. Here’s my Question.... If THC metabolites stay in your blood for up to 1 month, How can that blood test prove to them I was under the influence..? Thanks in Advance for serious responses. My Court date is next month. The Test came back Positive for THC metabolites.

This is one of those things where you imagine a buncha people are gonna get unfairly railroaded until someone with enough money can kick it up the chain.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Cythereal posted:


[update]Wife and I had a few threesomes, now she's decided she's a lesbian and wants a divorce.

As head of the family, the priest said, I first committed adultery with Jen and then encouraged my wife to do the same by example, so this is all on me. When I got angry and asked what I was supposed to do when a gorgeous blonde girl in a string bikini top and tennis shorts asked to have sex with me and my wife, I got a lecture about not only needing to say no to temptation, I should have helped Kate avoid being in a situation like that to begin with. I'm the one driving my wife away, I'm the one who hosed up.


Uh what did this guy think was gonna happen when he told his priest everything about his sex life? His MORMON priest?

"What, am I just supposed to AVOID temptation?"

life is a joke
Mar 7, 2016

Smirking_Serpent posted:

Bf (23m) of more than a year & a half made insensitive joke at Christmas dinner. I (22f) don’t know if I’m overreacting.

Dang my child rape TV reference didn't land when i told it to the juvenile sexual abuse support network, what could i possibly have done wrong?

1st_Panzer_Div.
May 11, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

Four times the legal limit? Either this happened in a country with a limit of .01, or that girl is a hard core alcoholic. No normal human being with a blood-alcohol level of .32 would be able to locate their car, or breathe.

Ill defend this later.

1st_Panzer_Div. fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Dec 26, 2018

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.
Drunk driving is horrible, idiot. People lose friends and family to drunk drivers every day.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Meme Emulator posted:

Uh what did this guy think was gonna happen when he told his priest everything about his sex life? His MORMON priest?

"What, am I just supposed to AVOID temptation?"

I'm honestly surprised they're holding him culpable at all as opposed to just blaming that hussy of a wife for bringing temptation into the home like that.

Simultaneously the wise master of the house and uncontrollable sex beast who cannot be held responsible for his actions/inadequacy.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

1st_Panzer_Div. posted:

My 1st day in court, a 20 yo kid comes in, bac from breathalyzer. 16 (oh hey), he was leavinv a party and bouncing off cars on either side of the road. His dad, not his lawyer, says they're taken away his driving privileges. Lawyer talks about their generous detonation to public charity for anti drunk drivung , case over that same day with a misdemeanor.
lol

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Here's an odd one, you don't normally see it from this end.


How do I [21M] deal with my girlfriends nice guy friend?[new]
submitted 3 hours ago by PartyArtichoke

She has a nice guy friend. Wanna know how to treat with him.

I started a relationship three months ago with a girl who I really like and enjoy my time with. She has some male friends (just like I have lots of female friends, with whom sometimes she's maybe a bit jelous), but then there's one special friend.

I'm afraid he's a bit of the typical nice guy, who's always ridiculously available. I can't go somewhere with my gf? He will. He hangs out with her while I am currently abroad. He hugs her often and compliments her by calling her names like “beautiful “ and others. They also went to go watch Aquaman together without me (I can’t make it as I am abroad).

He also tried to pick up Japanese (she’s Japanese American and I’m White) to impress her. He sends her a lot of texts.

He's usually with her. I respect they have confidence and are close friends, but I'd love just to have some tips how to deal with him.

TL;DR: my gf has a nice guy friend. How do I deal with him?


Comments are a mix of redditors baffled at what a Nice Guy is and those trying to explain.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Cythereal posted:

Here's an odd one, you don't normally see it from this end.


How do I [21M] deal with my girlfriends nice guy friend?[new]
submitted 3 hours ago by PartyArtichoke

She has a nice guy friend. Wanna know how to treat with him.

I started a relationship three months ago with a girl who I really like and enjoy my time with. She has some male friends (just like I have lots of female friends, with whom sometimes she's maybe a bit jelous), but then there's one special friend.

I'm afraid he's a bit of the typical nice guy, who's always ridiculously available. I can't go somewhere with my gf? He will. He hangs out with her while I am currently abroad. He hugs her often and compliments her by calling her names like “beautiful “ and others. They also went to go watch Aquaman together without me (I can’t make it as I am abroad).

He also tried to pick up Japanese (she’s Japanese American and I’m White) to impress her. He sends her a lot of texts.

He's usually with her. I respect they have confidence and are close friends, but I'd love just to have some tips how to deal with him.

TL;DR: my gf has a nice guy friend. How do I deal with him?


Comments are a mix of redditors baffled at what a Nice Guy is and those trying to explain.

idk don't be weirdly jealous and trust your SO?

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

FAUXTON posted:

idk don't be weirdly jealous and trust your SO?
it is hard to date someone who keeps other people around who actively try to sabotage said relationship hth

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

Yawgmoth posted:

it is hard to date someone who keeps other people around who actively try to sabotage said relationship hth

I agree with this, but if it was cut and dried one of those situations the boyfriend would be complaining that this guy has a sour face on whenever he's around, is being extremely negative to all of his suggestions, talk shits or has broken some intimacy boundary like trying to sleep with or make out with the girlfriend. Thus far it sounds like he's just being a good friend, which might very well be threatening for an insecure boyfriend, but which is not actually a bad thing.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe
re: Mormon threeway guy, there's a certain type of person that reacts to an unexpected breakup by fixating on what the relationship did for them. c.f. this thread's many "what does she mean she's breaking up with me, she cooks and cleans and blows me while I spend both our paychecks on cool Fortnite skins for my 12-hour marathon sessions" posts. It's not about the sacrifices they've made, it's all about them.

Note that when his wife said she thought she might be a lesbian, his response was "Yeah? Well you better give it up and do all the things important to me or else I'm divorcing you." He really thought this ultimatum was a brilliant ploy to save his marriage. He's a schmuck and good riddance.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Smirking_Serpent posted:

I was pulled over after 12AM. I was speeding. My bumper sticker is Rasta & says ‘Positive’.

I passed every Field sobriety test that was administered to me & Blew a .000 in AZ ; the Zero-Tolerance State. I was very respectful to the officers as they searched me and I even allowed them to search my entire vehicle. They did not Believe me as I continued to tell them “I Am Sober”. They booked me in Jail and took my Blood. Here’s my Question.... If THC metabolites stay in your blood for up to 1 month, How can that blood test prove to them I was under the influence..? Thanks in Advance for serious responses. My Court date is next month. The Test came back Positive for THC metabolites.

Not a fan of cop abuse or Arizona, but a huge red flag for me is that they mention it was after 12 AM at the beginning of the post, a pretty irrelevant detail, then forget to include the very relevant detail of how much they were speeding.

80 on the freeway? Abuse of police power
90 in a 15? Eh, probably high on something.

Also, if their regular speech is anything like their "randomly capitalized words and arbitrary inclusion of details" writing style, I'm gonna say police were right to be suspicious of drug use

Also, gonna go out driving with a bumper sticker that says "cheers for beers!"

Drunk Nerds fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Dec 26, 2018

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

1st_Panzer_Div. posted:

Dui's really depend...Long post but the legal system is hosed up, and its worst for things like duis and drug possession, people make mistakes, try to be human and forgive, save the anger for the rape and horrible stuff.
Hmm, equating operating a deadly weapon when totally hosed up with having -- not using -- illicit drugs within your control? Yeah, those are totally the same thing.

You seem to have forgiven neither the cops who were by your narrative total dicks, nor the kid who got off because his dad has money.

If it had been five hours wait plus travel to the hospital, your BAC at the time of arrest was definitely .20 or higher. Do you think driving while horribly impaired is only "horrible stuff" if you actually kill someone? Or are you one of those people who is actually a better driver when you're drunk?

rear end in a top hat.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

1st_Panzer_Div. posted:

<dui stuff>
Long post but the legal system is hosed up, and its worst for things like duis and drug possession, people make mistakes, try to be human and forgive, save the anger for the rape and horrible stuff.

:chloe:

Edit: glad to be beaten

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Leon Einstein posted:

Drunk driving is horrible, idiot. People lose friends and family to drunk drivers every day.

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.
They probably thought he was saying "I Am Sober." ironically.

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender
UPDATE: How do I [23 F] back away from this guy [31 M] without losing my favorite coffee shop?

quote:

Original post and original

TLDR: I went out with a regular at my local cafe and it didn't go well. He's maybe a little unhinged. I don't want to lose my favorite coffee shop. How do I handle this without any awkwardness?

So I had been meaning to post an update about this for a while but never got around to it, and then last night something really big happened and I think its really important that you guys keep in mind that this is all happening in my second language, nobody involved in the story speaks English (Except Sarah a little bit).

So where we left off with my last post, I had had a conversation with Sarah about Derek that made me feel better. Derek later reached out to me, apologized, said he had drunk too much on an empty stomach and that he was embarrassed about his actions.

I'm sorry you guys, but I agreed to hang out with him again, this time just over coffee. Things were fine and he further integrated me into the neighborhood by introducing me to the people he knows and inviting me to join other neighbors for drinks and such. He opened up to me about a traumatic event that happened to him in his past and about his mental illness. He brought me around his family and his nieces who were all lovely. Other people seemed to adore him. I really liked all of this and we quickly fell into a romantic relationship.

Derek seemed to be almost flaunting the relationship around the neighborhood. I had one other conversation with Sarah where she asked me some questions about how I felt about him. I explained that I liked him but felt confused and that he was moving quickly. She told me, in English so I know she was serious, "Take your time." soon after this Derek broke things off with me very suddenly, and rather forcefully. I found his sudden change of heart very confusing and upsetting. A week after he broke up with me I asked him to come over to my apartment to talk about what happened and we agreed to remain friends, since we'd have to see each other around the neighborhood.

I spoke about all this with Sarah, who told me that she didn't know anything about it and said that she was sorry. About a week after I agreed to remain friends with Derek he invited me out for a drink, gave me a necklace, and we got a little bit intimate, but he clearly told me "Do not talk about me at the bar." which I found very strange.

This is getting longer than I wanted it to be so I'm going to jump to last night. Sarah and the other woman who owns the cafe are a couple, they've been together for 10 years and they invited me to spend Christmas eve with them since they knew I would be alone. I brought up Derek, of course, and asked them why they thought that he wouldn't want me to talk about him in the Cafe. Silvia played dumb until we had some privacy and then she revealed to me that she and Derek had had a relationship while he was seeing me.

At first, he had lied to her and said that we were strictly platonic, but that lie quickly fell apart. Sarah said that she wanted to talk to me about it but never had the opportunity because we were always in the cafe. She apologized that some days she had acted cold towards me (which I hadn't noticed) and she said that after a few weeks she had insisted that Derek choose either her or me. Apparently, he chose her. Soon after that, she ended things with him completely. The next evening he invited me out for a drink to try to rekindle things

So Sarah apologized to me. She said she felt stupid and like a bad person, but that she had been feeling old and unattractive lately (she is 50). I told her that I wasn't upset with her at all, just shocked and that I was sorry I had been so oblivious to the real situation.

So, I definitely didn't see that coming. I'm not going to confront Derek about this, I'm just going to let it go and move on. Sorry for acting like an idiot. I wish I could say I've learned something but I probably haven't.

Merry Christmas everybody.

TL;DR: Derek and Sarah were together the whole time and Derek was trying to play both of us. Merry Christmas.

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kalel
Jun 19, 2012

1st_Panzer_Div. posted:

Long post but the legal system is hosed up, and its worst for things like duis and drug possession, people make mistakes, try to be human and forgive, save the anger for the rape and horrible stuff.

My father is permanently disabled from a crash when I was 3, the other driver was drunk. My brother's best friend was killed in a crash by a drunk driver two weeks ago.

You are a tremendous rear end in a top hat. Get hosed.

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