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e.pilot posted:Same for Denver, something like 97% of the noise complaints were from one dude that doesn’t even live near the airport. I should complain about all the departure and arrival routes that go through my airspace until they eventually move them leading to me doing less work...
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Phanatic posted:If this turns out to be a fantastically huge self-own I will laugh my rear end off and hope that this is at least one nail in the coffin of that "If you see something, say something" bullshit. See something, say something, assume the worst has been generating articles for cryptogram for two decades now
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fknlo posted:I should complain about all the departure and arrival routes that go through my airspace until they eventually move them leading to me doing less work... Yeah I’m right under LANDR it’s too loud. What do you mean how do I know what LANDR is?
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So the Gatwick incident has been changed from we have no evidence that there were any drones to we only have eyewitness reports and we found some kids lost toy and are forensically examining it. Also it might have been a mistake to arrest and interrogate two random people after making there names public. And we should have checked to see if they were working on the day of the incident rather than relying on a report from someone who saw that he posted a picture of an R/C helicopter on facebook. Stay classy UK authorities.
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Dec 24, 2018 23:47
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How are UK slander laws these days?
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Dec 25, 2018 00:18
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Spot the most plausible scenario for our crumpet eating friends: a) UK police will find the responsible party and charge them appropriately; b) Airport security measures will be reviewed and revised with an emphasis on gathering actual facts instead of relying on eyewitness reports before cancelling thousands of flights; or c) A special advisory council consisting of people that have absolutely no interest in aviation or civilian drone operation will be conveined and find that there is no good cause for the civilian ownership and operation of drones or UAV's and a blanket ban will be put into place. Licenses can be obtained only for good cause and for enormous fee's that only certain people can afford. I'd like to say say that can have their cake and butter their bread at the same time but they already banned butter knives.
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Dec 25, 2018 00:31
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Well, this is certainly up there on the list of "worst possibilities other than a 'no survivors' crash": https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...-reports/?amp=1
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Well, this is certainly up there on the list of "worst possibilities other than a 'no survivors' crash": https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...-reports/?amp=1 When you put it like that, I was expecting “there are a handful of survivors. They are injured and exposed to the elements”.
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Dec 25, 2018 01:13
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Platystemon posted:When you put it like that, I was expecting “there are a handful of survivors. They are injured and exposed to the elements”. Yeah, stuck for half a day on some shithole isolated island isn’t great, but it ain’t that bad either.
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PT6A posted:Yeah, stuck for half a day on some shithole isolated island isn’t great, but it ain’t that bad either. If there are any birdwatchers on the manifest, they're probably downright excited.
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MrYenko posted:If there are any birdwatchers on the manifest, they're probably downright excited. There’s no birds there in December. Strictly a summer activity.
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Dec 25, 2018 02:19
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Well, this is certainly up there on the list of "worst possibilities other than a 'no survivors' crash": https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...-reports/?amp=1 12 hours delay is nowhere near worst case, wtf
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Dec 25, 2018 04:41
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If you're in a situation where your engine(s) are potentially having crashy problems a 12 hour delay after a safe landing is one of the loving BEST possibilities.
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Dec 25, 2018 06:36
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So they emergency-landed at an actual airport, since the airline sent another airplane to bring technicians and fetch the passengers. Seems fine to me. Annoying, but not traumatic.
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Dec 25, 2018 10:02
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I once spent a night in the Denver airport due to winter storms, and I overheard a guy nearby describing his travel delays on his phone as "this has been the worst day of my life". Like, dude, this isn't even the worst day I've spent in an airport. There are plenty of places to charge your phone and there's even a 24 hour Burger King available. Plus they had a bunch of cool art displays and stuff to go look at.
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Dec 25, 2018 15:25
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I see we're all on a literal kick again. 
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SeaborneClink posted:How are UK slander laws these days?
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I see we're all on a literal kick again. Everyone guilty of this should be sent to the Aleutians as punishment imo
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Dec 25, 2018 15:32
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SeaborneClink posted:How are UK slander laws these days? https://www.theguardian.com/technol...re_iOSApp_Other
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Well, this is certainly up there on the list of "worst possibilities other than a 'no survivors' crash": https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...-reports/?amp=1 Better landing at Shemya than ditching short of Shemya. I remember what the instructor in my first International Procedures class told us, "A minute flying is a day swimming - remember that when you ditch". Not that anybody would last more than a few hours in a raft up there.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I once spent a night in the Denver airport due to winter storms, and I overheard a guy nearby describing his travel delays on his phone as "this has been the worst day of my life". Like, dude, this isn't even the worst day I've spent in an airport. There are plenty of places to charge your phone and there's even a 24 hour Burger King available. Plus they had a bunch of cool art displays and stuff to go look at. Basically. The worst is when you’re stuck like that in a remote airport with no services Glad that Denver actually has 24 hour restaurants though, it’s so dumb when the last flight is at midnight at everything closed at 8pm. This is at hubs too!
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Dec 25, 2018 17:42
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As someone that's been to Shemya, you don't want to go to Shemya. It's a rock about 100' above the surrounding water and the entire thing is runway. Remember that "outside the environment" from the Front Fell Off? Shemya is outside the environment.
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My misses got me a 1 hour flying lesson for christmas... I'm well chuffed.  Any tips on how to get the most out of it?
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Trainee PornStar posted:My misses got me a 1 hour flying lesson for christmas... I'm well chuffed. If it’s your first flight ever your CFI may ask if you want to just fly around or make it a lesson. Just fly around and see what it’s all about and enjoy it before starting the grind of learning.
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e.pilot posted:If it’s your first flight ever your CFI may ask if you want to just fly around or make it a lesson. Yeah. I should have mentioned 1st flight ever at the controls. closest I've been is Ultrawings on oculus, I'll keep that to myself though lol
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Trainee PornStar posted:Yeah. I should have mentioned 1st flight ever at the controls. I dont need that much help; Ive played some video games before
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:I dont need that much help; Ive played some video games before Exactly.. I dont want to be that dickhead.
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hobbesmaster posted:Basically. The worst is when you’re stuck like that in a remote airport with no services
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Trainee PornStar posted:Exactly.. I dont want to be that dickhead. Since nobody else has said it, that was a quote from over the radio when a guy stole a plane, just before he smacked it into the sea. As for taster flights, I haven't been on one but I bought one for somebody as a gift once. They were really nice and let me sit in on the pre-flight briefing rather than waiting in the car. The pilot instructing was great and loved questions. I asked about high vs low wing (when he mentioned the 2 types) and the reasons it changed but why high-wing planes were still produced if low-wing designs were better - now that I think about it, the kind of poo poo I'd ask in this thread. Just be genuine, you can say you've played around in sims before as long as you aren't trying to put across that makes you some kind of superstar flyboy. Same as anything when you are doing something new or meeting somebody new: don't be presumptious or arrogant, do be excited and interested, and ask what you want to ask - I know the person I bought it for was asking about life as a pilot and the instructor dude told a bunch of stories while in the air. It's your time with the person - the profession - as much as your time with the plane.
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The best thing you can do is ask for an acro box then tell the FI to firewall it and hand you the stick.
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I've been on a taster flight, the instructor asked me if I had played sims. I said yes, a lot, he said great, then I don't have to explain things to you. You do learn a lot from playing computer games compared to someone who hasn't, but not everything.
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Ola posted:I've been on a taster flight, the instructor asked me if I had played sims. I said yes, a lot, he said great, then I don't have to explain things to you. You do learn a lot from playing computer games compared to someone who hasn't, but not everything. The first thing I’d do when I had a student that played a lot of sims was to cover up every instrument other than airspeed and altimeter to get them to look outside. The best part was I never had to ask, they were always super proud and boastful of their flight sim hours.
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e.pilot posted:super proud and boastful of their flight sim hours. I wasn't this, and it's a crappy thing to be. But for most taster flights throughout aviation history, the instructor had to explain that the pedals weren't for gas and brake, push to make houses bigger etc.
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Saukkis posted:The airfield for my gliding club has couple known complainers, one of them complaining also other matters like racing events. I think one failed official complaint cost him 500€, another one 1500€. What’s a failed complaint?
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smackfu posted:What’s a failed complaint? I guess the more correct term is an appeal against something. Previous one was against the environmental permit of the air field, the latest one is against new aircraft hangars. The appeal reaches some level of court or county bureaucracy, where it is deemed invalid, with a fee stacked on top of it.
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I lucked out and went to a high school that offered aeronautics as an elective, so I leapt at the chance to earn credit for flying a plane. That was 20 years ago and despite some budget cuts here and there, apparently they still offer it. One flight was just 'take off, cruise over town, then land' and the other was a three-stop run from town, to Oshkosh, to Green Bay, then home, switching out students at each stop. Good stuff. This same school also has its own radio station and broadcast tower, so that's pretty cool too
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Cheers for the tips I'll definitely mention I've played flight sims & have some RC experience for what it's worth, other than that I'll just enjoy it to see if I want to continue learning.
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Trainee PornStar posted:I'll definitely mention I've played flight sims & have some RC experience for what it's worth, other than that I'll just enjoy it to see if I want to continue learning. Protip: Don’t, just go in and impress the instructor instead and let them ask the question if you’ve flown anything before. It’ll start things off on a much better foot, instead of flaunting how good you’re going to be (which you will be better than the average student, but still far from good) you’ll surprise them with being an above average student. e.pilot fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Dec 27, 2018 |
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The most interesting thing to me about flying for real for the first time (vs gazillions of hours in xplane) was just how much time was spent looking at engine RPMs. I only really went flying that one time, so not sure if that's really true in general though. I've thought about getting my license for real, probably at a good point in life to do that, but I dunno, haven't pulled the trigger. Maybe I should do another taster flight  IMO sims will give you a huge leg up on the most basic parts of how to fly and operate an airplane, but not at all how to fly correctly, fly well or fly safely.
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:The most interesting thing to me about flying for real for the first time (vs gazillions of hours in xplane) was just how much time was spent looking at engine RPMs. I only really went flying that one time, so not sure if that's really true in general though. In general, I'd say that it's one of the biggest differences between flying for real and flying a sim for fun. As pilots, we control aircraft attitude and power. Everything else just reacts as a function of those inputs, so our task is to figure out how to manipulate them in order to get the desired performance out of the aircraft. If you don't pay attention to your power setting precisely, you can't make the plane behave the way you want it to behave. You spend just as much or more time focusing on attitude, but since in VFR flight that's basically code for "look out the window" you don't notice it as much. Focusing on power seems odd because we're pretty much all conditioned to think about controlling vehicles in terms of driving a car, where throttle setting is essentially irrelevant and we focus on speed.
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