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RareAcumen posted:Oh and also you can forge and reforge items up to +3 and you can check how much that'd improve an item by going to it in your equipment or item bag or whatever and hitting square. Huh. Does it make sense to upgrade items? Or will beginner equipment eventually be rendered obsolete by later stuff, which can ALSO be upgraded, so that it doesn't really make sense to update something...? Fretting about upgrade decisions is something I had actual (dumb) nightmares about Edit: Well, I meant at least 40 hours, it's not like I've got an exact time budget over here, it's a long time until KH3
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Does CrossCode talk go in here? I just started and got to the first actual combat area, and I wanted to know if there are any important side quests to do since most of these look like generic stuff. I have a feeling I'm going to either love or hate parkour at the end of this though.
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Torquemadras posted:Huh. Does it make sense to upgrade items? Or will beginner equipment eventually be rendered obsolete by later stuff, which can ALSO be upgraded, so that it doesn't really make sense to update something...? You get the currency, perfectionist pearls, to upgrade items by crafting new ones, and the act of crafting gives you a shot at upgrading your item - all the pearls do is let you play the crafting minigame again (though you can also use them on items you can't normally craft). So craft away, make at least a +1 out of the gate, and use the pearls this gives you to upgrade an item you found instead of crafted. It's pretty win-win. As an additional note, you can eventually buy (but not sell) pearls so you don't need to fret about decisions or not playing the minigame perfectly first try. Prism fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Dec 28, 2018 |
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Argona posted:Does CrossCode talk go in here? I just started and got to the first actual combat area, and I wanted to know if there are any important side quests to do since most of these look like generic stuff. There's a slightly hidden one in town to fight a boss version of a regular enemy and recover a guy's gauntlet, off the top of my head.
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You can also buy perfectionist pearls later for not very much money. Upgrade whatever you're using and then you can maybe skip a tier of bought equipment and end up saving money.
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Torquemadras posted:Huh. Does it make sense to upgrade items? Or will beginner equipment eventually be rendered obsolete by later stuff, which can ALSO be upgraded, so that it doesn't really make sense to update something...? Weapons and armor don't really have skills aside from like 'does damage to metal enemies' or 'Boosts MP when using X item' so upgrading them is a good idea because you don't really end up rolling in cash like Final Fantasy until really late in the game. So it's usually a better idea to try to upgrade a sword to +3 and a max of 56 attack rather than spend 700 of your 2000 gold buying a new sword with a base of 60.
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Getsuya posted:Turns out there's a bug in Romancing Saga Minstrel Song (may be only in the JP version, which is what I'm playing) when you use the spell Self Burning (dunno the English name) that makes it so you have almost 100% chance to block with a shield. Since the buff only ends when you take a hit, you can combine this with a good elemental-blocking shield and make a basically invincible character. In a normal game I'd avoid this kind of bug-abuse but this is SaGa so it's balanced for broken-ness. Albert, prepare to become an unhittable God. now get glittering scales and forge it onto anything you have equipped to become immune to sonic damage
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Torquemadras posted:Excellent, I love random book fluff hidden in towns! Sometimes they give you cool backstory, sometimes they give you recipes, so it's definitely worth keeping an eye out. Torquemadras posted:Huh. Does it make sense to upgrade items? Or will beginner equipment eventually be rendered obsolete by later stuff, which can ALSO be upgraded, so that it doesn't really make sense to update something...? Upgrading stuff is definitely useful, especially since if an item has a special effect, like HP regen or elemental defense, it'll also increase when you upgrade. It's true that regular weapons can eventually just be replaced, but other stuff remains useful or is unique in some way so it's worth keeping around. A lot of people don't realize you can upgrade accessories in this way to boost their effect, but it's real helpful!
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corn in the bible posted:Upgrading stuff is definitely useful, especially since if an item has a special effect, like HP regen or elemental defense, it'll also increase when you upgrade.
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One of the buttons on the equipment stats page will take you to another page that will show you exactly what happens when that equipment is upgraded
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Definitely upgrade all the unique card accessories to +3, they're awesome.
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Argona posted:Does CrossCode talk go in here? I just started and got to the first actual combat area, and I wanted to know if there are any important side quests to do since most of these look like generic stuff. There's a really important one near the end of the game that can be missed but if you do the game lets you rewind to grab it.
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cheetah7071 posted:Personally, as the biggest liveposting offender, I like liveposts in the RPG thread Ayesha sold me on the series, so I know I'll definitely be playing more of them in 2019. Still kind of a toss-up whether I'm going to subscribe to PS Now to finish the dusk series or pick up some some cheap physical copies of the Mysterious games. I'm curious about the puzzle aspect to crafting in the newer games, that seems like it would be fun. Might save a PS Now subscription for later in the year when I know I'll have more time to take advantage of it, as once I go back to work I won't have as much time to sink in as I did with Ayesha. A subscription real-life time limit is more daunting than one in the games.
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Cinnamon Bear posted:Ayesha sold me on the series, so I know I'll definitely be playing more of them in 2019. Still kind of a toss-up whether I'm going to subscribe to PS Now to finish the dusk series or pick up some some cheap physical copies of the Mysterious games. I'm curious about the puzzle aspect to crafting in the newer games, that seems like it would be fun. Might save a PS Now subscription for later in the year when I know I'll have more time to take advantage of it, as once I go back to work I won't have as much time to sink in as I did with Ayesha. A subscription real-life time limit is more daunting than one in the games. Lydie & Suelle is the only Mysterious game I can recommend without caveats if you do go that route. Escha & Logy too but that's Dusk so depends on what you decide. e: I consider Ayesha to basically be Atelier Totori 2 in terms of how they explore the same space within the series' framework. Escha & Logy is a sequel in terms of plot but is closer to Rorona than Ayesha in terms of the gameplay structure. So that's something to consider. cheetah7071 fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Dec 29, 2018 |
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What's a good Atelier to start with? I have a ps4, a 3ds and a computer that could probably emulate a ps2. All this talk has made me curious.
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Skwirl posted:What's a good Atelier to start with? I have a ps4, a 3ds and a computer that could probably emulate a ps2. All this talk has made me curious. Lydie and Suelle is probably the best one gameplay wise and is PS4. Ayesha and Totori have better stories but Totori is kind of rough around the edges even in the port, and Ayesha requires using PSNow to play on PS4. The PS2 games are fine (...mostly) but aren't a good indication of what the modern series is like. Relatedly, I got curious and looked at a list of CGs in Totori and uh does something big happen in the Totori true end that I missed
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CharlestheHammer posted:Yeah I’m not sure what they think the point of this thread is. Like discussing RPGs in general but never any one in particular  I've liveposted obscure rpgs in this thread with absolutely no remorse, i can't actually get mad about liveposting. I was just being difficult for no particular reason.
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cheetah7071 posted:Lydie & Suelle is the only Mysterious game I can recommend without caveats if you do go that route. Escha & Logy too but that's Dusk so depends on what you decide. I decided to go back and look at your comments on Sophie again and I think I'd be willing to put up with a slow start, but I noticed you and somebody else mentioning Firis was supposed to be really bad? What's the story there? I'm looking to play through a full set from the beginning, so maybe if Sophie is relatively weak and Firis not great I'll just stick with the Dusk games for now after all. I also saw Shallie didn't make your top 10 and was the only Atelier not to, and I'm a bit curious as to why?
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Firis is an OPEN WORLD GAME and to make that work they had to cut pretty much everything that's good about the series, plus add a bunch of arbitrary gating to what you can do so you don't just skip everything. grind endlessly to accomplish anything at all! fun! e: cheetah7071 posted:Lydie and Suelle is probably the best one gameplay wise and is PS4. Ayesha and Totori have better stories but Totori is kind of rough around the edges even in the port, and Ayesha requires using PSNow to play on PS4. The PS2 games are fine (...mostly) but aren't a good indication of what the modern series is like. no, she just kinda shows up and it's revealed in Meruru that Astrid did it
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Starting in E&L they tried to start making crafting a full minigame rather than just items in, item out. It works in E&L and the Mysterious games but in Shallie it's just extremely dull and makes every craft take forever with no upside for mastery or good decision making. I also think it has by far the worst writing of the Dusk trilogy. None of the new characters really grabbed me and the returning characters all felt like unlikable versions of themselves. Like Wilbell is the sane bratty selfish person she starts Ayesha as before her character development, but this time she's an adult in a position of authority so it's harmful instead of cute. It sounds like I'm really down on it and I sorta am but I still enjoyed it. It just felt like E&L fanfiction rather than a proper third entry. If possible, play the Vita version. In addition to coming with the DLC, it adds Ayesha and Logy as playable characters who aren't in the PS3 version even as DLC. Firis is apparently just extremely grindy. I'm going to give it a shot after Meruru but I'm going to play other things in between. cheetah7071 fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Dec 29, 2018 |
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About 14 hours from the original posting time will be an anime summary, but still could result in some reveals. Dehry fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Dec 29, 2018 |
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Are we really due for a remake this soon?
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Crabtree posted:Are we really due for a remake this soon? No but that never stopped persona
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maybe for the ova atlus will let masashi ishihama make something visually interesting. that's right. another opCrabtree posted:Are we really due for a remake this soon? it's just gonna be a p3p/p4g enhanced port thing, not an actual extensive remake
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Crabtree posted:Are we really due for a remake this soon? P3 FES was a year later, if anything this is slow on atlus's part
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Yeah the schedule was stupid Japanese TV showtimes so there's an extra day, though tomorrow will be an anime summary
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glad that atlus will finally release persona 5 on switch so that one of my brothers will buy it next year or something and i can play it for a couple hours and then earn my license to poo poo on it just as much as i poo poo on persona 4
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cheetah7071 posted:Starting in E&L they tried to start making crafting a full minigame rather than just items in, item out. It works in E&L and the Mysterious games but in Shallie it's just extremely dull and makes every craft take forever with no upside for mastery or good decision making. I also think it has by far the worst writing of the Dusk trilogy. None of the new characters really grabbed me and the returning characters all felt like unlikable versions of themselves. Like Wilbell is the sane bratty selfish person she starts Ayesha as before her character development, but this time she's an adult in a position of authority so it's harmful instead of cute. It sounds like I'm really down on it and I sorta am but I still enjoyed it. It just felt like E&L fanfiction rather than a proper third entry. If possible, play the Vita version. In addition to coming with the DLC, it adds Ayesha and Logy as plausible characters who aren't in the PS3 version even as DLC. Hmm, thanks for the information, that was really helpful in making my decision. I can't really justify getting a Vita, sadly, so I am kind of hoping the Dusk games come to PS4 at some point. But I think I will just wait a little while before subscribing back to PSNow to finish the Dusk series. Also the far cheaper option, helpfully! Wilbell was someone I really didn't care for at the beginning but she grew on me over the course of Ayesha. Thats too bad if she stays the same and didn't actually continue to grow as a character.
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The Colonel posted:glad that atlus will finally release persona 5 on switch so that one of my brothers will buy it next year or something and i can play it for a couple hours and then earn my license to poo poo on it just as much as i poo poo on persona 4 Why would you play it to complain about it when you could just not and say you did?
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Speaking of Persona, I'm surprised Persona 4 hasn't gotten a re-release on PS4. It still holds up extremely well for a PS2 era game, and a ton of people would buy it. Ideally, it would also get a steam release, but Atlus.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Speaking of Persona, I'm surprised Persona 4 hasn't gotten a re-release on PS4. It still holds up extremely well for a PS2 era game, and a ton of people would buy it. Ideally, it would also get a steam release, but Atlus. As long as it's Golden. I wouldn't imagine they would port the plain old PS2 version but companies an be dumb.
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NikkolasKing posted:As long as it's Golden. There's kind of a precedent for Atlus putting uprezzed Vita games on PS4 since they ported P4 Dancing to PS4 for the dancing bundle. Switch would probably make more sense since it's a handheld (not that the original was a handheld game, obv, but I know several people that jumped on with Golden who say they couldn't imagine playing it on a non-handheld. Also the assets would probably hold up better.) Selfishly I would want a PC port for more presentation control, cheats / mods, and not having to re-buy it again in the future.
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Randallteal posted:There's kind of a precedent for Atlus putting uprezzed Vita games on PS4 since they ported P4 Dancing to PS4 for the dancing bundle. Switch would probably make more sense since it's a handheld (not that the original was a handheld game, obv, but I know several people that jumped on with Golden who say they couldn't imagine playing it on a non-handheld. Also the assets would probably hold up better.) Selfishly I would want a PC port for more presentation control, cheats / mods, and not having to re-buy it again in the future. PC ports are ideal for me, too. Put P4G and SMTIVA on Steam and I will be very. very happy. They have to do it someday...right?
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Randallteal posted:There's kind of a precedent for Atlus putting uprezzed Vita games on PS4 since they ported P4 Dancing to PS4 for the dancing bundle. Switch would probably make more sense since it's a handheld (not that the original was a handheld game, obv, but I know several people that jumped on with Golden who say they couldn't imagine playing it on a non-handheld. Also the assets would probably hold up better.) Selfishly I would want a PC port for more presentation control, cheats / mods, and not having to re-buy it again in the future. There's zero reason they wouldn't use the Vita version as at least a basis for an uprez/remaster. I'm still surprised they haven't just gotten it over with, considering almost every other good Vita game made the jump years ago.
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I remember seeing somewhere that people not working on Persona 5 were working on Tokyo Mirage Sessions which delayed a number of projects. E: Comiket gust things. https://social.gust.co.jp/pc/event/comiket95/sp https://twitter.com/GustSocialPR/status/1073143616523067392 Dehry fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Dec 29, 2018 |
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NikkolasKing posted:PC ports are ideal for me, too. Put P4G and SMTIVA on Steam and I will be very. very happy. Yakuza is on PC anything is possible
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Dehry posted:I remember seeing somewhere that people not working on Persona 5 were working on Tokyo Mirage Sessions which delayed a number of projects. Sophie apparently has her own harem (-1 member). https://twitter.com/GustSocialPR/status/1076069773505490944
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an actual dog posted:Yakuza is on PC anything is possible sega also set a growing historical precedent for pc ports, while atlus' support for pc is purely a few titles published by atlus us specifically, so i wouldn't be surprised if atlus jp allows a port of p5r to pc as a big step into the market space but if they don't, well, rip
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