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someone lay this over BTC price
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:someone lay this over BTC price The correlation is pretty spot on 
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Dec 29, 2018 19:59
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happy page 1080
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Dec 29, 2018 20:22
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thinking of getting a 2070 at work for them sweet sweet cuda cores should i wait for nvidia to implode before i waste federal grant money on one?
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Dec 29, 2018 20:32
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Rex-Goliath posted:happy page 1080 Lmao
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Food Boner posted:thinking of getting a 2070 at work for them sweet sweet cuda cores should i wait for nvidia to implode before i waste federal grant money on one? theyre not gonna bring the prices down ever
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Dec 29, 2018 20:39
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so the house had tried to freeze the cost of living increase or w/e (0), the senate went with like 1.9%, and now the executive is going with that 0 number, is how it sounds. when democrats take over they'll probably include something like the senate's number so trump can veto it again and the world will keep turning last time it got frozen was 2011-2013 or something, i think it was one of those things where obama believed the lie that conservatism was an idea-based philosophy that could be compromised with getting promoted or getting the regular mostly-tenure-based step increases are still possible ways of getting increased pay, it's not a complete freeze
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Dec 29, 2018 20:40
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oystertoadfish posted:so the house had tried to freeze the cost of living increase or w/e (0), the senate went with like 1.9%, and now the executive is going with that 0 number, is how it sounds. when democrats take over they'll probably include something like the senate's number so trump can veto it again and the world will keep turning Surprised they can get step increases. Trump caters to the bottomless spite of lovely olds, and nothing makes those scum happier than kicking federal workers (unless it's kicking black people).
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Dec 29, 2018 20:43
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oystertoadfish posted:so the house had tried to freeze the cost of living increase or w/e (0), the senate went with like 1.9%, and now the executive is going with that 0 number, is how it sounds. when democrats take over they'll probably include something like the senate's number so trump can veto it again and the world will keep turning lmao how people work for the government despite the whole shutdown silliness. Especially how most american families are living paycheck to paycheck and really don't savings to handle not getting paid for a few weeks.
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Dec 29, 2018 20:44
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etalian posted:lmao how people work for the government despite the whole shutdown silliness. That's the point, they want the good, dedicated, and talented people to get frustrated and quit.
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after two years of republican control they didnt change much about federal employment (there's been some executive orders you can look up but nothing like revamping the pay system), i think they might not know how to accomplish their goals or something i have no idea but i think that kinda thing has to happen through congress, otherwise he probably would've done it already also worth remembering 75% of the government isn't shut down this time. aside from essentialism a lot of the dozen or so appropriations bills got signed before the shutdown drama still sucks for the couple hundred thousand people who get to be pawns in this game also since this is the retirement thread, i'm curious, is a federal retirement still pretty secure? it seems like being employed by the people who print money helps secure the retirement accounts compared to working for a state eg california when this administration is over i might have more to say about my perspective, but as far as i can tell they've been remarkably less successful at loving things up than the reagan or bushx2 administrations. we'll see how things unfold edit: as one example of how the federal government is still kinda working as an organization, the system set up to monitor local market rates for different specialties and up the federal salary when necessary is still functioning as it's supposed to afaik, new poo poo shows up on the site and all https://apps.opm.gov/SpecialRates/2019/AllSRTables.aspx the air force is having trouble hiring firefighters in san luis obispo? up the salary by 6K. federal prison nurses in rochester MN get what looks like five-figure pay increases over the general pay schedule. soil scientists in berkshire MA get 8K more. the list goes on, and on, and on if they really wanted to starve the government of its needed employees they probably would've done more to this program, and it's still finding ways to increase government salaries. that's the closest thing to a point here loving with the supplements that sorta-kinda keep track with cost of living is mean, but it's nothing new. also i guess a lot of other workers out there would love to have those supplements ever oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Dec 29, 2018 |
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Dec 29, 2018 20:48
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Shear Modulus posted:theyre not gonna bring the prices down ever yeah basically. they've learned nerds will pay exorbitant prices for htem and buttcoin miners will as well. I hope ATI does light more fires under nvidia by coming out with cards that just blow them away with huge price/performance differences but it's more likely they'll just also price htem hihgly because nvidia is and amd is stupid as poo poo and wonder why no one is buying their stuuff still
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Dec 29, 2018 21:07
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oystertoadfish posted:also since this is the retirement thread, i'm curious, is a federal retirement still pretty secure? it seems like being employed by the people who print money helps secure the retirement accounts compared to working for a state eg california lol california state employees get a lifetime pension that's not going anywhere no matter how much republicans bitch about debt
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Dec 29, 2018 21:22
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:lol california state employees get a lifetime pension that's not going anywhere no matter how much republicans bitch about debt ok i thought i remembered calPERS was forcing people to retire early and poo poo but im glad the actual value is safe. i guess that's a contract law thing, but if they're still promising good pensions that's good local government is the layer where pensions are the most fucky i guess i'd be interested in seeing a comparison of the california and federal retirement benefits, that might be worth knowing
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Dec 29, 2018 21:25
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Shear Modulus posted:buddy, I already made this joke ITT just a couple of days ago get with the times gawwwd
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oystertoadfish posted:ok i thought i remembered calPERS was forcing people to retire early and poo poo but im glad the actual value is safe. i guess that's a contract law thing, but if they're still promising good pensions that's good iirc california has been in a budget surplus for a few years now
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Dec 29, 2018 21:33
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for awhile there the state wasn't giving raises and it drove a buncha people to the private sector but that ended a few years ago and from what i've seen they increased pay like crazy to catch up so a buncha olds have been going back to complete their time to get that pension california also has excellent disability retirement as well as regular disability, and includes actual factual paid maternity & paternity leave hell i'm planning on switching into public because it already pays better than the private sector of my industry even if you ignore the retirement benefits and all the holiday time
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Dec 29, 2018 21:34
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basically private sector jobs are a scam
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Dec 29, 2018 21:35
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several contractors i know have gone over to the public side (fed and state), and lord knows i would never put up with that contractor bullshit. haven't talked to them about their pay or retirement plans but they must've seen something they liked the main movement the other way i can think of is executives retiring and basically becoming lobbyists for 3x their gov't salaries. but that's kind of a specific thing
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Dec 29, 2018 21:40
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oystertoadfish posted:several contractors i know have gone over to the public side (fed and state), and lord knows i would never put up with that contractor bullshit. haven't talked to them about their pay or retirement plans but they must've seen something they liked The other main movement I see is company's hiring people on the regulatory side of things to handle their paperwork's. poaching someone who literally used to process their permits for a living means they never have to worry about getting in poo poo for loving up the paperwork for that state.
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Dec 29, 2018 21:45
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:jobs are a scam
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Dec 29, 2018 21:53
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private sector is a scam lol, I'm never leaving the public sector
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Dec 29, 2018 22:03
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It's me, the public contractor that is always kept at exactly 37.5 hours and has to hope I basically never get sick more than twice a season. It's all I could get lmao I don't necessarily know yet if I'm getting affected by this but we were just told they'd keep us posted.
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Dec 29, 2018 22:10
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imagine if every job was public sector
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Epic High Five posted:private sector is a scam lol, I'm never leaving the public sector  I wanted to cry the first time I got into the public sector, just at how well I was treated compared to every job I'd ever had.
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Dec 29, 2018 22:11
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Flavius Aetass posted:
I went from restaurant management to retail pharmacy to....white collar tech job with comparable pay to private sector that was over twice what I was making previously and 30 days off, paid, that I'm encouraged to take lmao it's crazy to come across people for whom like every job they've ever had has been this cushy who just cannot fathom that hard work is actually inversely proportional to good pay out in the real world
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Dec 29, 2018 22:14
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Epic High Five posted:I went from restaurant management to retail pharmacy to....white collar tech job with comparable pay to private sector that was over twice what I was making previously and 30 days off, paid, that I'm encouraged to take lmao what does "comparable pay to private sector" mean in white collar tech land cuz i knew private sector peeps gettin paid 60k and i knew private sector peeps gettin paid 600k and more
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Dec 29, 2018 22:17
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bob dobbs is dead posted:what does "comparable pay to private sector" mean in white collar tech land I just kind of take it by skillset...a private sector job doing what I do would probably pay a good deal less than what I'm getting, but I also manage a small team so maybe it wouldn't? I don't know, capitalists have hosed up priorities private sector is only good if you have one of a very small pool of valuable skills or if you're the idiot failson of some rich guy who himself inherited the money also you always have the sword of damocles hanging over your head in the private sector, you're loving gone the moment they can replace you with somebody cheaper
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Dec 29, 2018 22:20
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Zeroisanumber posted:That's the point, they want the good, dedicated, and talented people to get frustrated and quit. Not likely to happen until there's a shutdown that involves multiple missed paychecks and/or the dumb motherfuckers decide to not pay the people that got furloughed. That second one would cause a mass exodus from federal jobs.
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Epic High Five posted:capitalists have hosed up priorities
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Dec 29, 2018 22:28
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Huragok posted:imagine if every job was public sector
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Dec 29, 2018 22:30
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I've had a couple conversations with people that were "wow EHF, your team is basically universally esteemed and extremely competent despite being primarily younger part time hourlies, what's your secret?" "uhhh, I compensate them well and provide as secure an environment as I can, give them autonomy free of micromanaging, and stick up for them for pay increases and ensuring we have sufficient staff that they aren't asked to do two peoples work for the pay of 1. Do that and it turns out people will be really loyal to you and go out of their way to ensure you succeed" "Oh well that's not something we can do, it'd cost too much and they'd just slack off if I took my eye off them" like buddy, who cares if they slack off as long as the poo poo you hired them to do gets done? why remove that as an incentive?
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Dec 29, 2018 22:36
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Flavius Aetass posted:
can't loving wait to finish my degree and have a lovely but still public job
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Epic High Five posted:I've had a couple conversations with people that were "wow EHF, your team is basically universally esteemed and extremely competent despite being primarily younger part time hourlies, what's your secret?" "buddy" is an abuser sorry to help
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Dec 29, 2018 22:40
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every fuxking day I roll in to a job that should not exist but does anyway due to the military industrial cumplex. im late as hell and ready to uphold share z0ne thought. i get in arguments with everybody about policy and law poo poo and so my boss thinks im trying to do work. i talk about workers rights and what salary exempt means to my co-workers and get in trouble for making fun of the marines all the drat time. i take a ream of printer paper and go home around lunch time.
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Dec 29, 2018 22:45
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Poniard posted:every fuxking day I roll in to a job that should not exist but does anyway due to the military industrial cumplex. im late as hell and ready to uphold share z0ne thought. i get in arguments with everybody about policy and law poo poo and so my boss thinks im trying to do work. i talk about workers rights and what salary exempt means to my co-workers and get in trouble for making fun of the marines all the drat time. i take a ream of printer paper and go home around lunch time. drat that's cool as hell
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Dec 29, 2018 22:47
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one thing I'd be interested in understanding is how, if capitalism punishes failure and rewards successes, why is it that only like 3 movies a year ever turn a profit
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Dec 29, 2018 22:47
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Epic High Five posted:one thing I'd be interested in understanding is how, if capitalism punishes failure and rewards successes, why is it that only like 3 movies a year ever turn a profit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcOTiTVuizU
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Poniard posted:every fuxking day I roll in to a job that should not exist but does anyway due to the military industrial cumplex. im late as hell and ready to uphold share z0ne thought. i get in arguments with everybody about policy and law poo poo and so my boss thinks im trying to do work. i talk about workers rights and what salary exempt means to my co-workers and get in trouble for making fun of the marines all the drat time. i take a ream of printer paper and go home around lunch time. Jon Joe posted:EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A BOOK ONTO THE DESK. ITS DAS KAPITAL AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, MARX. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME CAPITALIST BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXY’S MOST DANGEROUS ECONOMIC SYSTEM. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY BOARD ROOM AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN BOARD ROOMS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND THE WORKING CLASS LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNing
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