FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Games > The MMO HMO > FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood

«‹›1934 »

Rea: Apr 5, 2011; Komi-san won.

SonicRulez posted:

Pazuzu is in Eureka, but the music is just the regular rear end Eureka NM music. I am sorry.

It's not even the NM music! It's Thunderer, aka the same music that plays during Ascian fights.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 12:16

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 21, 2024 10:06

suuma: Apr 2, 2009

Well, I'm 46 and my next MSQ isn't until 49( :argh:

). Should I just run dungeons?

# ? Dec 31, 2018 14:22

PhilippAchtel: May 31, 2011

suuma posted:

Well, I'm 46 and my next MSQ isn't until 49(). Should I just run dungeons?

Run dzamael dark hold over and over (ideally just the first big pull over and over), combined with running fates in North Thanalan. At least that's what I did in 2.x.

Not sure if it's still the most efficient method.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 14:26

DoubleNegative: Jan 27, 2010; The most virtuous child in the entire world.

PhilippAchtel posted:

Run dzamael dark hold over and over (ideally just the first big pull over and over), combined with running fates in North Thanalan. At least that's what I did in 2.x.

Not sure if it's still the most efficient method.

It's the most efficient way to get you to hate the game.

Real answer: do your daily roulettes because those are a huge chunk of XP every day, and if you haven't, look into Palace of the Dead. The 51-60 floors are extremely good for XP, and you can get a level roughly every other run just doing that.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 14:46

unseenlibrarian: Jun 4, 2012; There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

suuma posted:

Well, I'm 46 and my next MSQ isn't until 49(). Should I just run dungeons?

Dungeons, Palace of the Dead and also there's a bunch of side quests to pick up in the side room of the Waking Sands that'll point you at other quests to do at your level that'll help.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 14:47

suuma: Apr 2, 2009

I was 6 or 8 levels ahead of the MSQ at one point and thought it'd never run out :v:

I've done the 1-50 story before on a different server (but quit not long after, all prior to Heavensward) so blitzing to HW content was kind of my original plan. I seem to have a ton of at-level sidequests I can do in Mor Dhona if nothing else, but I'll definitely check out Palace of the Dead (I did 1-10 solo). This game seems to fart exp at you from every direction, I just want to be done the boring ARR content.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 15:10

Wangsbig: May 27, 2007

i murdered a train today. a noble beast, the last of its kind. who is the real monster

# ? Dec 31, 2018 16:37

PhilippAchtel: May 31, 2011

DoubleNegative posted:

It's the most efficient way to get you to hate the game.

Real answer: do your daily roulettes because those are a huge chunk of XP every day, and if you haven't, look into Palace of the Dead. The 51-60 floors are extremely good for XP, and you can get a level roughly every other run just doing that.

See, I find PotD unbelievably boring, but to each their own.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 17:14

DizzyBum: Apr 16, 2007

Crackerjack posted:

Heck yeah! The more the merrier.

For simplicity's sake I'm going to skimp on some of the rules and terminology of mahjong and focus on four points that I think will create a foundation from which you can play the game online with relative confidence and to be able to learn the rest as you play.

Mahjong is easy. There are three suits of tiles numbered 1 through 9 and an unsuited set of honor tiles. There are four copies of each tile for a total of... 136, I think? The objective is to be the first to complete a hand by assembling 4 "sets" and a "pair." A "set" is a short straight (4-5-6 of the same suit, for example), a triplet (3-3-3, same suit), or four-of-a-kind, and the "pair" is two identical tiles. Each of the four players take turns one-by-one by drawing, then discarding a tile. Any player may instead claim the most recent discard to complete a set or to win the game. When a winning hand is assembled, either by a drawn tile or a claimed discard, the player reveals it and shouts "tsumo!" or "ron!" to an audience of cheering, adoring faces.

Mahjong is hard. That is the basic game, the real game is in scoring points and taking everyone's money. Japanese mahjong requires you to complete a hand as described above and score a minimum point value of one "yaku." A yaku is awarded when you complete specific hands or satisfy certain conditions (Such as having 4 triplets or a same-suited 1 through 9 straight). There are a lot of them and you have to memorize them. Don't worry though, there will most likely be a full list you can pull up in game at any time (Oh, god I hope there's a list). The best way to learn, I think, is to pick two or three easy yaku from the list and focus on winning with those. Once you're comfortable, try more yaku and soon you'll be winning more games and with more points. The more yaku you have in your hand, the larger your score. The losers pay a pot the winner based on score. A win from a drawn tile will have the losing players split the cost of the pot three ways, however a win from a discarded tile will have the discarding player pay the full amount.

Furiten: The best rule. "Furiten" states that you can not win a hand by claiming a discard if you have previously discarded a copy of one of your winning tiles. Every player's discard pile is kept neat and tidy for this reason. You will be able to keep track of both your and your opponents' discards. This means you can deduce what tiles the other players might want and avoid playing into their hands and getting stuck paying the entire pot.

That one trick I know about. Tiles can be divided into three categories: Honors (winds, dragons), terminals (1s and 9s of each suit), and simples (2 through 8). These categories are based on how easily you can match sets with them. Honors being the hardest, then terminals, then simples. Keep the valuable ones, throw away the rest and your hand will come together quicker. Of course, your opponents know the same thing. Read their discards. Honors usually come out at the start of the game, simples when a player is about to win. Be careful, but also be daring.

This is a good explanation, thanks!

I got interested in mahjong after watching slowbeef play it in Yakuza 0 for like three hours straight on Twitch one night. It was enthralling.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 17:18

SonicRulez: Aug 6, 2013; GOTTA GO FIST

Yeah that weird level gap never happens again. It was a mistake from a dev team that was still learning. If you want to go as fast as possible, do your 1 roulette. Then run things with your squadron. Go unlock that if you haven't. If you don't have the exp boosting ring from the Novice tutorial thing, go get that. There's also Palace of the Dead, but

PhilippAchtel posted:

I find PotD unbelievably boring

Do not under any circumstances farm FATEs though. We are far beyond that. If you're not in a rush, do like 3 days of those roulettes and you'll probably be done.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 17:36

suuma: Apr 2, 2009

Is a squadron different from my grand company :confused:

# ? Dec 31, 2018 18:26

Aithon: Jan 3, 2014; Every puzzle has an answer.

SonicRulez posted:

Do not under any circumstances farm FATEs though. We are far beyond that. If you're not in a rush, do like 3 days of those roulettes and you'll probably be done.

FATEs do work fine on very low levels before you unlock roulettes. A friend wanted to level her CNJ to have an alternative to playing BLM, I could help her blow through FATEs quickly and she still got full monster experience because I was level synced. She got from 1 to 15 in like half an hour, and that's usually the absolute worst part of leveling.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 18:34

WrightOfWay: Jul 24, 2010

If you haven't touched POTD at all you will probably hit level 49 before you even get to floor 51. It only really gets tedious if you grind the same bunch of floors repeatedly. Plus the story up through floor 50 is pretty cool.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 18:34

a messed up horse: Mar 11, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

suuma posted:

Is a squadron different from my grand company

Yeah but you have to get to Lieutenant in your GC to get a squadron. Which you'll have to run Aurum Vale at least once to do, and by then you'll almost be 50 anyway.

It's great for levelling 2nd jobs, though.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 18:35

Gruckles: Mar 11, 2013

suuma posted:

Is a squadron different from my grand company

Your squadron is a group of NPC adventurers you can recruit to your Grand Company, and then send on missions and run dungeons with. It requires you to be Second Lieutenant rank in your grand company, which requires level 47.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 18:36

Mymla: Aug 12, 2010

SonicRulez posted:

Do not under any circumstances farm FATEs though. We are far beyond that. If you're not in a rush, do like 3 days of those roulettes and you'll probably be done.

While I agree that you shouldn't farm FATEs, they're a lot more fun than potd. And they can also be done while waiting for roulette queue, so I sometimes end up doing a few while leveling.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 18:55

An Actual Princess: Dec 23, 2006

a lot of people in this thread will say "no, never do potd" to newcomers, but they're probably ones who did a bunch of grinding in it. it really takes a good amount of time in potd before you start to hate it, in my experience, so it'a great for gaining a few levels

# ? Dec 31, 2018 19:16

Mymla: Aug 12, 2010

Overwatch Porn posted:

a lot of people in this thread will say "no, never do potd" to newcomers, but they're probably ones who did a bunch of grinding in it. it really takes a good amount of time in potd before you start to hate it, in my experience, so it'a great for gaining a few levels

If "good amount of time" is "one run from 1-50", then yeah.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 19:52

Jose Valasquez: Apr 8, 2005

Mymla posted:

While I agree that you shouldn't farm FATEs, they're a lot more fun than potd. And they can also be done while waiting for roulette queue, so I sometimes end up doing a few while leveling.

The biggest problem with farming FATEs is that you're probably the only person there farming FATEs so everything takes forever.

Back when Northern Thanalan FATE farming was good it was because you had 20 people all burning through FATEs in a continuous cycle. They were also a source of Alexandrite for the relic weapon so you had levelers, materia farmers, and relic grinders all doing FATEs

# ? Dec 31, 2018 20:04

Catgirl Al Capone: Dec 15, 2007

always do the highest level fates you can do at max sync range, the exp won't be as good per fate but they add up faster especially as you get the challenge log chunks

# ? Dec 31, 2018 20:48

Ytlaya: Nov 13, 2005

suuma posted:

Well, I'm 46 and my next MSQ isn't until 49(). Should I just run dungeons?

People always recommend stuff like PotD or running dungeons, but these things are only if you really want to continue the MSQ today or tomorrow or something. If you just want to minimize the time you have to play to reach 49, just do the leveling daily (which will give you about 1 level every day for just ~20 minutes of playtime).

I did PotD once, and while I guess it might have technically been more efficient for leveling than running the nearest level dungeon, it somehow felt longer. Like, I had a distinct feeling of "these gains were not worth the time spent."

# ? Dec 31, 2018 21:03

Rainuwastaken: Oct 30, 2012; Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.

Burnout is a real thing and I absolutely recommend the chill leveling-roulette road to 50. That's not to say you shouldn't do any extra dungeons or PotD or whatever, but just don't drive yourself crazy trying to grind to 49. I find that the game is best when you just sorta take it at your own pace.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 21:09

Shoehead: Sep 28, 2005; Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

I fought Titan for the first time today and I got knocked off the platform on the second knockback attack and had to watch the other 3 pubs beat him alone and I feel guilty as hell

# ? Dec 31, 2018 21:34

oh no blimp issue: Feb 23, 2011

Shoehead posted:

I fought Titan for the first time today and I got knocked off the platform on the second knockback attack and had to watch the other 3 pubs beat him alone and I feel guilty as hell

You just wait until you back flip off the platform as an RDM

# ? Dec 31, 2018 21:36

onesixtwo: Apr 27, 2014; Don't you realize that being nice just makes you get hurt?

Shoehead posted:

I fought Titan for the first time today and I got knocked off the platform on the second knockback attack and had to watch the other 3 pubs beat him alone and I feel guilty as hell

Grats on your titan clear!

Note that this is not uncommon. Let us know when you do Titan Ex!

# ? Dec 31, 2018 21:38

a messed up horse: Mar 11, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

Shoehead posted:

I fought Titan for the first time today and I got knocked off the platform on the second knockback attack and had to watch the other 3 pubs beat him alone and I feel guilty as hell

That's when you get to relax and offer helpful critiques/bad jokes in party chat

# ? Dec 31, 2018 21:43

Arzachel: May 12, 2012

You're playing dps wrong if you aren't finding new exciting ways to fall to your death.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 21:44

Rainuwastaken: Oct 30, 2012; Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.

onesixtwo posted:

Grats on your titan clear!

Note that this is not uncommon. Let us know when you do Titan Ex!

Titan EX is the most unfortunate victim of unsync. It's such a wonderful fight and practically nobody sees it anymore except for a couple madmen willing to join me in PF every now and then.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 21:47

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

Titan ex was probably the best extreme fight until thordad ex showed up. :v:

# ? Dec 31, 2018 21:48

onesixtwo: Apr 27, 2014; Don't you realize that being nice just makes you get hurt?

Truga posted:

Titan ex was probably the best extreme fight until thordad ex showed up.

There isn't a more correct post in this thread.

but mog ex still has the best music

# ? Dec 31, 2018 21:56

World War Mammories: Aug 25, 2006

THE EDGE IS CALLING TONIGHT

# ? Dec 31, 2018 22:05

Screaming Idiot: Nov 26, 2007; JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

*beating on Squeenix's door*

MAKE MORE ROBOT RAIDS YOU UTTER BASTARDS

# ? Dec 31, 2018 22:12

Captain Cappy: Aug 7, 2008

Screaming Idiot posted:

*beating on Squeenix's door*

MAKE MORE ROBOT RAIDS YOU UTTER BASTARDS

Ibblebibble posted:

https://i.imgur.com/L6cm4nP.mp4

# ? Jan 1, 2019 00:44

Scaly Haylie: Dec 25, 2004

What do you need in order to make your own shiny, glowy primal weapons?

# ? Jan 1, 2019 01:31

Alris: Apr 20, 2007; Welcome to the Fantasy Zone!

Get ready!

It depends on the weapon. Typically it requires a drop from the primal you're after but there are a couple exceptions.

# ? Jan 1, 2019 01:32

HackensackBackpack: Aug 20, 2007; Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

Lizard Wizard posted:

What do you need in order to make your own shiny, glowy primal weapons?

For the Ifrit, Titan, Garuda and Moggle weapons, you'll need a material drop from Ex, three special demimateria from desnything the primal's respective hard mode weapons, 10 Battlecraft III demimateria, from desynthing level 50 combat gear, and some other materials like cobalt ingots or something. They're typically crafted by blacksmiths and goldsmiths. All of the Titan weapons are made by alchemists. Books are ALC, too, of course.

For the Leviathan and Shiva weapons, you'll need the weapon drop from Ex, and a number of the extra things from Ex like diamond dust or whorl mirrors, you take those to Mor Dhona and trade them in.

For the HW primal weapons it's at least one of the Primal drops from Ex, plus a bunch of level 60 mats and 5 Battlecraft Demi IIIs. Thordan weapons don't need a drop, just a bunch of mats, and the Nidhogg weapons require a specialist to craft.

# ? Jan 1, 2019 05:24

Kaubocks: Apr 13, 2011

finally got shinryu's greatsword! gonna need some glamour recs for this fuckin thing

# ? Jan 1, 2019 06:30

Screaming Idiot: Nov 26, 2007; JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Kaubocks posted:

finally got shinryu's greatsword! gonna need some glamour recs for this fuckin thing

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/item/b5a7867cccf/

This sword looks good.

# ? Jan 1, 2019 08:40

SonicRulez: Aug 6, 2013; GOTTA GO FIST

I didn't need to grind POTD to find it tedious and generally kinda dull. It's just the 1 floor and the fall out that is actually exciting and neat. I'm not going to say never do it, but I don't like the Deep Dungeons and want newbies to know that there are other paths. I'll encourage them to see floor 50 for The Thing, but that's a 1 and done kind of thing.

Shoehead posted:

I fought Titan for the first time today and I got knocked off the platform on the second knockback attack and had to watch the other 3 pubs beat him alone and I feel guilty as hell

I fought Titan for like the 7 millionth time yesterday and I got knocked off the platform, so don't feel bad

# ? Jan 1, 2019 08:47

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 21, 2024 10:06

Emzedoh: Jun 26, 2013

Are we still posting glamour shots? Here are three recent glamours I'm really happy with.

# ? Jan 1, 2019 09:12

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Games > The MMO HMO > FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood

«‹›1934 »