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Ryuga Death posted:This was an interesting read. Didn't even know there were things like that, so don't be sorry. I'll think about Clannad, but I'm not sure about picking it up. I'm kind of worried if Clannad will feel like the characters are catering/pandering to you, the player, instead of interacting with a proper main character, if that makes sense. I was sort of having that issue with Doki Doki Lit Club where it felt a bit pandering but was glad that they weren't playing it straight. At least Kindred Spirits, so far, seems to be mostly watching other characters' stories. Didn't know there were things like that? ...Might I recommend Long Live the Queen? It's like that, but, like, way heavier on the mechanical aspects, and you're mostly trying to survive rather than romance. It's only $4 USD right now on Steam! quick edit: And CLANNAD definitely doesn't feel like pandering, and the main character is an actual character. double edit: It does have a character who looks like this, though. 
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Isn't Key is more about making you sad with tragic character backstories than direct pandering?
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John Lee posted:Didn't know there were things like that? I didn't know date sims were more than just choosing a branching path and that there were games where you selected date spots and stats. I don't know, probably sounds dumb to others but I really didn't know.
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Ryuga Death posted:I didn't know date sims were more than just choosing a branching path and that there were games where you selected date spots and stats. I don't know, probably sounds dumb to others but I really didn't know. Yeah there's often things like earning money for gifts, choosing the right outfit, fending off rivals, that kind of thing. They mostly fell out of fashion because there's a lot more people who want to see a relationship play out than there are people who want to minmax or replay a bunch, but there's still some around.
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Yakiniku Teishoku posted:Yeah there's often things like earning money for gifts, choosing the right outfit, fending off rivals, that kind of thing. They mostly fell out of fashion because there's a lot more people who want to see a relationship play out than there are people who want to minmax or replay a bunch, but there's still some around. I'd argue they're still around, they just slid more into the other half of their genre. The original Tokimeki Memorial has a lot more in common with Persona 5 than it does with modern romance VNs.
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Amateur dating sims were also pretty popular a decade or more ago on newgrounds but were widely mocked on SA (they all sucked rear end, to be fair). Then people started applying the term to all romance visual novels in what felt like a reductive manner, as if they were dismissing them all as pandering trash without considering the merits of the stories. A lot of them are pandering trash, but some of them, like Clannad, aren't pandering at all. And there's a large amount of VNs that are a mix of pandering trash with a story, which I always avoid recommending to anyone unless I know they're capable of enjoying the trashy elements too. Doesn't help their reputation when most of them are pornographic (Clannad isn't, in any version). Anyway, Clannad's good if you like romance and coming of age dramas. The other games I posted earlier (besides muv luv) are safer picks if you're not sure.
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NRVNQSR posted:I'd argue they're still around, they just slid more into the other half of their genre. The original Tokimeki Memorial has a lot more in common with Persona 5 than it does with modern romance VNs. Yeah I didn't get into it but that's basically the thing. One half became straight visual novels and one half became RPG romance options
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Ryuga Death posted:I didn't know date sims were more than just choosing a branching path and that there were games where you selected date spots and stats. I don't know, probably sounds dumb to others but I really didn't know. Oh yeah, no judgement here, I was just making an entertaining bridge to Long Live the Queen, which is like exceptionally mechanistic with dozens of skills and branching paths.
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Anyway the best detective VN is clearly London Detective Mysteria
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Oh poo poo, that's out, ain't it? Wait, Vita only? When is it coming to a platform people actually play games on?
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Wait, Vita only? When is it coming to a platform people actually play games on? Don't worry, I'm sure it'll have a simultaneous release on the Playstation TV.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Oh poo poo, that's out, ain't it? it's coming out on PC too, but I can't find a release date for that
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Amateur dating sims were also pretty popular a decade or more ago on newgrounds but were widely mocked on SA (they all sucked rear end, to be fair).
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FractalSandwich posted:Just you wait - someday I'll make the Crusader Kings of dating sims. And again, Long Live the Queen already exists.
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More to the point Crusader Kings is already the Crusader Kings of dating sims. From what I've seen recently the internet seems to be more interested in making the Dark Souls of dating sims.
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What we really need is the Mario Party of dating sims
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MegaZeroX posted:What we really need is the Mario Party of dating sims That would be the Rival Schools series, though sadly they removed that entire incredible game mode in the English versions. I feel like I've seen a recent game like that on Steam, though. Was there a board game spin-off of Cherry High Comedy Club, or something?
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Meallan posted:Anyway the best detective VN is clearly London Detective Mysteria From what i understand LDV is more of a romance game with some detective elements (though the mysteries aren’t that mysterious)
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I still wish that (the game about girls in shells which technically doesn't qualify for this thread because 18+) hadn't pretty much dropped the detective aspect in the second game in favor of more incest. Hunting a serial killer in the first game was actually interesting, if occasionally frustrating. I've somehow made a habit of playing weird detective VNs. I've played Eve Burst Error (DON'T) and Soulslayer (okay but short) and Famicom Detective Club (the translated part 2, and it's not awful if you can tolerate retro style but I still complained a lot about the ending) and Jisei (which I can't remember much about) and probably more I can't think of right now.
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theblackw0lf posted:From what i understand LDV is more of a romance game with some detective elements (though the mysteries aren’t that mysterious) Yeah i was being facetious. I'm still not at a branching point, still in the common route, and although there's plenty of mystery cases they aren't anything special and in fact very easily solvable. I heart the game gets kinda dark though when you get to the routes and I'm hoping at least story wise it will be more memorable. The MC and characters so far are great though! So as an otome it has my seal of approval so far.
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There's only one VN detective I need, and her name is Furudo Erika
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:There's only one VN detective I need, and her name is Furudo Erika The only thing possible with this level of reasoning.
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It's Christmas Eve, so I'm giving out keys! For the visual novel thread, I've got a HumbleBundle key for If My Heart Had Wings: https://www.humblebundle.com/gift?key=mDfKpPV6Etn7bU4p Please let me know if you were able to register the key.
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Finished Umineko Chapter 3. I’m still not sure what the hell is going on with Eva/Beatrice; hopefully there will more of an explanation that what this chapter provides. I figured Beatrice was trying to pull a long con on Battler. It’s really the only move she had after Battler, fed up with her sadism, declined to play with her any longer. Ronove is even more of an rear end in a top hat than I suspected since he obviously knew what Beatrice was planning the entire time. I’m not sure yet if Virgilia was in on it; she seemed genuinely appalled by Beatrice’s behavior prior to her “death.” (The Virgilia who showed up at the very end of the chapter could simply been more of Beato's psychotic furniture.) I found it odd that she didn’t show up at the 3rd tea party. This chapter needed a bit of editing, but overall I’m loving this game and can’t wait to start Chapter 4 tomorrow.
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You get to play as kamille and four combined together while Bright Noa acts like a creep to you and you flirt with girl char.* *note: this post may be incomprehensible if you are not a big nerd
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Anyone playing London Detective Myseria? I'm still on the common route but I have Strong Feelings.
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I'm not sure you'd really consider it a visual novel since, well, it doesn't really have much for visuals, but I've really enjoyed this game Open Sorcery that I picked up for $1.19 on the steam sale. It's a text/decision based game about an "elemental firewall", a fire elemental bound by C++ code to defend several locations from spiritual threats. By your decisions, you can awaken as a sentient being, bond with the people you're trying to defend, or turn against them. The setting is pretty unique, and I enjoyed it a lot, and there's quite a bit of variance depending on how you decide to do things. It took me about 2 hours to get through once, and 6-8 hours to see everything. There's also a new Christmas themed DLC that just came out, which seems almost as substantial as the main game and I ended up purchasing it right after I finished the regular game.
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Hey I finally am like "into" Umineko Ep4 - Battler just got the blue text, and they're all watching the fourth game back in 1986 on Rokkenjima now. Just a question, I'm not sure it matters much at all, but when was the scene with Ange and Maria's....shade(?) at the boarding school? I figure it must have been between 1986 and 1998 but can't at all remember. It's just taken me so long to slog through the opening of this one for some reason. On a related note, my game crashed after several hours of reading yesterday so I have some skipping to do now. I'm thinking something with how Steam Big Picture mode works is loving with it. Frustrating as hell. I've been streaming it straight to my TV through the Steam Link app so it's not convenient to dig through event logs trying to decipher what could have crashed it, but BP Mode seems kind of garbage even when I'm not streaming so I'm placing the blame there.
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Alder posted:Anyone playing London Detective Myseria? I'm still on the common route but I have Strong Feelings. I will! ...Once it's on Steam!!
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food court bailiff posted:Hey I finally am like "into" Umineko Ep4 - Battler just got the blue text, and they're all watching the fourth game back in 1986 on Rokkenjima now. Just a question, I'm not sure it matters much at all, but when was the scene with Ange and Maria's....shade(?) at the boarding school? I figure it must have been between 1986 and 1998 but can't at all remember. It's just taken me so long to slog through the opening of this one for some reason. I don't remember a year or even Ange's age mentioned. Maybe that she's now some amount of years older than Maria was through which you could deduce the approximate year. You might want to look into Parsec as an alternative method for streaming the game to your mac if you suspect Steam's BP is crashing things. It arguably performs better than Steam's in-home streaming too. Edit: I misread you have a mac for some reason. Parsec is good if you have something that can run the client. Dessel fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Dec 29, 2018 |
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Since it was on sale, I got Muv-Luv after hearing about it for ages. Going in pretty much unspoiled. Thus far it's, well, as the OP says a lot of comedic high school stuff and high-larious misunderstandings but it's done well even if to somebody who's probably a vet at these things it probably shows its age.
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I honestly liked that bit because it's about the only example of that kind of genetic romcom thing I've ever played.
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How’s 7’scarlet? It and the Psychadelica games are on sale on PSN. I’m not huge into otome games but I did like Sweet Fuse. I played the original Hakouki and was just kind of “meh” about it.
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theblackw0lf posted:Seeing Heaven Will Be Mine on a lot of Top 10 lists this year.
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Optimistic Puma posted:How’s 7’scarlet? It and the Psychadelica games are on sale on PSN. I’m not huge into otome games but I did like Sweet Fuse. I played the original Hakouki and was just kind of “meh” about it. It's one of the worst otome game I've ever had the displeasure to get through. Huge buyers regret. If you want to play otome at all just go with Code;Realize.
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Optimistic Puma posted:How’s 7’scarlet? It and the Psychadelica games are on sale on PSN. I’m not huge into otome games but I did like Sweet Fuse. I played the original Hakouki and was just kind of “meh” about it. 7's is bad and i have a lot of regrets. Psychadlica series is nice for a different kind of otome and I would buy them on sale. Otome is a huge variation depending on LI, theme, plot, and MCs so keep trying new games.
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Klingon w Bowl Cut posted:It's definitely on my Top 10 list. I am really looking forward to more cool weirdness from these devs. Have you played We Know The Devil from the same creators?
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