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Motronic posted:That is certainly NOT the reasoning I've heard. Try "poor people, especially in cities, are unlikely to have state issued ID because they don't drive/own a car and few have any reason to haul their rear end out to a DMV to get a non-driver's ID, so requiring state ID is a barrier to voting. Barriers to voting are bad. The stated reason for needing this barrier (in person voter fraud) is statistically invalid." See this is exactly what I'm talking about. You have to have an ID to do pretty much anything in life. Poor people have ID. It's really projecting to say that lower class folks don't have ID. If you're so poor that you can't get to the DMV, how exactly are you identifying yourself for government assistance? Now in fairness I definitely think IDs should be free from the state. It's insane that any states charge any amount of money for ID, but that's a separate issue.
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therobit posted:Yes by all means let's call every person who disagrees with us a Nazi instead of realizing they don't have perfect information or understanding and working from there. This will surely not turn off middle of the road low information voters when you call them a nazi because they don't understand why voter ID is bad.
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# ? Jan 2, 2019 18:58 |
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How did no one just reply to this handsign chat?
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# ? Jan 2, 2019 18:59 |
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If the Founding Fathers had wanted me to show somebody a little piece of plastic before exercising my Christ-given rights they'd have written it into the Constitution.
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DeadMansSuspenders posted:How did no one just reply to this handsign chat?
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revmoo posted:See this is exactly what I'm talking about. You have to have an ID to do pretty much anything in life. Poor people have ID.
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quote:“The SNAP/Food Stamp caseworker is required to verify your identity. 7 CFR 273.2(f). There are many ways, however, that you may verify your identity. A photo ID is only one way. You should not be denied SNAP/Food Stamps simply because you do not have a photo ID. To prove who you are, you can use such things as a work or school ID, an ID for health benefits, an ID from another social services program such as TANF, wage stubs, a birth certificate, or a voter registration card. The SNAP/Food Stamp caseworker can also verify your identity by calling a “collateral contact” who can confirm you who are. Shelter workers and employers are examples of possible collateral contacts. If you have no paper documentation of who you are, you should ask the SNAP/Food Stamp caseworker to call a collateral contact. a lot of folks in my neighborhood don't have ID. and it is a barrier to voting, especially if you live in a town with poo poo mass transit, and you don't have a car.
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someone should just resubmit without changes as :whitepower:
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Pirate Radar posted:If the Founding Fathers had wanted me to show somebody a little piece of plastic before exercising my Christ-given rights they'd have written it into the Constitution. I'm not sure the Founding Fathers are the best people to consult on matters of voting rights.
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Leon Einstein posted:I don't think the guy saying the left wing says black people are too dumb to get IDs is arguing from a place of ignorance. now watch in amazement as he fails to reply to the post stating “actually many poor people find it very difficult to obtain one of the approved forms of ID”! it’s like magic!
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Internetting! the Nazi Menace since July 2018!!
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Smirking_Serpent posted:Boyfriend dumped me over my mother not letting us have alone time...advice? I'm the oldest he has ever dated....problem? (self.AskWomen) submitted 1 month ago The body of the post was removed, sadly.
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:now watch in amazement as he fails to reply to the post stating “actually many poor people find it very difficult to obtain one of the approved forms of ID”! it’s like magic! All this presupposes he's not allowed to have the opinion that "voter fraud and illegal voting is a bigger problem than people not being able to get a voter ID, who still want to vote." I don't feel that way, and I don't think statistics would show that either one is actually much of an issue, but couldn't reasonable people disagree on which value should take precedence?
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Am I The rear end in a top hat for forcing my Stepson(7) to finish a level in a video. My stepson is a constant quitter. He wants to do everything until he realizes it takes effort..Today I was studying while he played the Xbox. He was playing the retro sonic game we got him for Christmas. When he plays as long as the game doesn’t require any effort he is cool. The moment there is a trick or something to figure out he goes and grabs his mom. So he is playing the game and this wall comes up. The trick is to grab a power up and blast through. He doesn’t realize it so he runs at the wall for 5 minutes. He doesn’t try to figure it out at all. So he goes to grab his mom. This time I called BS and told him to come back and finish the game. He said he was done and I said no you need to figure this out because I’m tired of watching you quit. He starts to argue and I cut him off. Eventually he finishes the part. I’m not trying to make him think that video games are a chore but I’m also not trying to raise someone who half asses everything. TLDR my stepson try’s to quit all the time so I made home finish a level.
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blarzgh posted:All this presupposes he's not allowed to have the opinion that "voter fraud and illegal voting is a bigger problem than people not being able to get a voter ID, who still want to vote." Wrong. Statistics very much show which one is more of an issue.
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Am I The rear end in a top hat for getting my roommate's annoying friend arrested? My roommate has this friend, let's call him Mike. Mike is a bit of a dick and a horrible guest. He's the type of person who will come to your home, ask for Coke, be offered Pepsi, accept it, and then spill it on your carpet just to be like "gently caress Pepsi am I right hahahahahahaha". He's the type of person who will delete your stuff on your Xbox One to make space for his poo poo. He's the type of person who eats everything with his hands and wipes his fingers on your couch. He's the type of person who will go to your bathroom, take a poo poo, and then drop a full loving roll of toilet paper into the toilet. (I don't mean he used a lot of toilet paper. I mean he literally took a fresh roll from under the sink and splashed it right in. Still have no clue why he did this.) Mike thinks all of this is acceptable. My roommate enables him. They know I'll always be cleaning it up, as I seem to be the only person with maturity. After the toilet paper incident I tried to talk to my roommate. I said it's fine if he wants to stay friends with Mike but please keep him out of our apartment. My roommate said no. Mike is "a great guy" and I cannot stop him from having whoever he wants in an apartment we share. That's the background. Now the potential assholery: They were having drinks and discussing guns. Mike mentions having his concealed carry handgun on him. I hear this conversation from another room and I realize, holy poo poo, he's drinking, I can get him arrested for that. So I excuse myself to "go out for a walk" and call 911 from my car. Fast forward to now. My roommate is pissed at me for "snitching." I've explained how dangerous it is someone under the influence of alcohol to have a deadly weapon. He says none of that matters, I only called the cops out of irrational hate against Mike. I'm thinking he might have a point. On that night, I was not really concerned about the gun. I only wanted Mike gone. I even ended up endangering the lives of some police officers. AITA?
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blarzgh posted:All this presupposes he's not allowed to have the opinion that "voter fraud and illegal voting is a bigger problem than people not being able to get a voter ID, who still want to vote."
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Smirking_Serpent posted:Am I The rear end in a top hat for getting my roommate's annoying friend arrested? Correct him: You only called the cops out of a rational hate against Mike.
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revmoo posted:See this is exactly what I'm talking about. You have to have an ID to do pretty much anything in life. Poor people have ID. It's really projecting to say that lower class folks don't have ID. If you're so poor that you can't get to the DMV, how exactly are you identifying yourself for government assistance? What in particular do you need a VALID STATE ID for that impacts a poor person's daily life? I'm talking poor poor. Like unbanked, no car certainly not taking trips on planes. A birth certificate/SS card and a utility bill is proof enough to get you on most state assistance, yet insufficient for voting. blarzgh posted:All this presupposes he's not allowed to have the opinion that "voter fraud and illegal voting is a bigger problem than people not being able to get a voter ID, who still want to vote." Reasonable people can have a reasonable disagreement in the way that you stated (your viewpoint still is not supported by the statistics and evidence I've seen). But arguing from a point of (willful?) ignorance, as once again pointed out above, is not reasonable.
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Smirking_Serpent posted:Am I The rear end in a top hat for getting my roommate's annoying friend arrested? Ha ha ha this dude is a weenie but good for him for getting the cops to deal with his problem. Mile sounds loving obnoxious. He should just own being a snitch because that is what he is, but I bet Mike doesn't want to risk hanging out there anymore.
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Smirking_Serpent posted:Am I The rear end in a top hat for getting my roommate's annoying friend arrested? No you are a moron for fessing up to it what the gently caress.
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therobit posted:Yes by all means let's call every person who disagrees with us a Nazi instead of realizing they don't have perfect information or understanding and working from there. This will surely not turn off middle of the road low information voters when you call them a nazi because they don't understand why voter ID is bad. if, when pointed out to you that your view aligns with that of white supremacists and nazis, you don’t reflect on and analyze why you have that view and instead lash out like it’s someone else’s problem that you’re siding with nazis, don’t get butthurt when people call you a nazi
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Man, those black Nazis and their secret Nazi OK symbol. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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therobit posted:Man, those black Nazis and their secret Nazi OK symbol. no marginalized people have ever aligned themselves with oppressors, therefore
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Popular Human posted:He’s probably ghosting her, but this was literally me a year ago. Turned out I have sleep apnea. Or he's clinically depressed. therobit posted:Yes by all means let's call every person who disagrees with us a Nazi instead of realizing they don't have perfect information or understanding and working from there. This will surely not turn off middle of the road low information voters when you call them a nazi because they don't understand why voter ID is bad. Look at the reply to the response you like. That sure did a fat lot of good, didn't it? It's literally the one he picked to say "See, that's what I'm talking about!" Wasn't worth the effort. Like come on, I've seen actual information and understanding turn around exactly one person's beliefs in this entire presidency. Everyone else just yells ignorant talking points louder and louder until people with facts gives up. That poo poo is exhausting. You want to take on the benevolent mantle of educator of the ignorant, be my guest. also did you even read the shirts on that last picture?
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therobit posted:Man, those black Nazis and their secret Nazi OK symbol.
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Edit: This is the wrong thread for this. My bad.
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Oh poo poo, found a real winner: My (F20) boyfriend (M 21) gets extremely angry when helping me at the gym/working out. Is this normal? quote:We've been together just under a year, and I very much love him. I tore my ACL playing soccer and am in physical therapy right now to get my full range of motion back. I'm at about 90% but I haven't done my normal gym routine in a long time and it's been hard getting back into it. For New Years, my resolution has been to get back into my normal routine and my plan was to hire a personal trainer because I know how difficult it's going to be on my own. BF graciously insisted he would be my personal trainer and help me through the process 100%. FYI we are both athletes for our school and BF has hopes to become professional, so the gym isn't new to us. However, we have almost never worked out together because A) I go to spa lady which is an all women gym, and B) we both prefer being alone at the gym. It's sort of our therapeutic "me time" if you will for both of us. Midnight Voyager fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jan 2, 2019 |
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revmoo posted:See this is exactly what I'm talking about. You have to have an ID to do pretty much anything in life. Poor people have ID. It's really projecting to say that lower class folks don't have ID. If you're so poor that you can't get to the DMV, how exactly are you identifying yourself for government assistance? Important distinction: most, but not all, poor people have ID. It's OK, we're only disenfranchising 10-20% of you, nbd
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My [26m] girlfriend [26f] expects me to ask her parents for permission to propose, and it's causing problems. The title pretty much sums up everything. My girlfriend and I were recently discussing the future and marriage, we're both very on board with the idea of it. However, she made it clear that she'd "need" me to ask her parents for permission before proposing. I'm entirely uncomfortable with that, and I told her it wouldn't be happening. This upset her and she started saying if I wouldn't ask them then obviously it doesn't mean much to me and I'm not serious about it. I countered by essentially saying that I felt the exact opposite, that she's an adult and I don't need anyones permission to ask my partner to marry me, that if she cannot say yes on her own then it's indicative of her not being ready for marriage and that I wouldn't feel comfortable entering into a marriage by giving my in-laws that sort of power over my relationship as it sets a bad precedent. I get along with her parents well enough, but regardless of how well we got along I think asking them permission to marry their daughter is an outdated concept that implies they have authority over her romantic life. I'm asking her to marry me, not them. I told her I'd be willing to talk to them, let them know our future plans and include them in that way but would stop short of asking for permission, but apparently that isn't good enough. This whole thing is starting to change the way I looked at marriage with her and quite honestly her maturity level as a partner. We both come from the same culture/background so it isn't even a cultural difference. How do we bridge this gap? I understand parental approval is nice, but am I crazy for thinking at the end of the day you need to be comfortable saying yes on your own and the approval of others is secondary? TL;DR Girlfriend and I cannot agree on the importance of parental approval regarding marriage proposals.
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My brother stole gas in 4 states. What could happen? My brother recently moved back to Florida. He turned in gas receipts to me (vice president of our company) for moving expense reimbursement. While examining the receipts, I noticed that they were purchased with a fleet card (we have these but it is not our account). I believe he used a company fleet card with his previous employer (left without notice). Fuel was purchased in 4 different states. Total amount is about $100.00. What kind of penalty would he be looking at if they decided to pursue this?
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Midnight Voyager posted:Oh poo poo, found a real winner: Yeah this kind of motivation is pretty common since it's extremely well known that guys lack the drive to achieve their goals, or even have goals, without an external negative force pressing on them. The way to get him to be nicer to you is to hire your own physical trainer and spend loads of time with him. Then, when you and your bf are out somewhere, start telling him how lovely he is as a person and how Hugo is a mass monster that cums cocaine and has a heart of gold. Also that you're breaking up with him and .
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GrandpaPants posted:I'm not racist, I just refuse to recognize institutional racism!
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revmoo posted:
Lol gently caress off, its not because black people don't know how to find a dmv. It's because it creates ridiculous barriers for poor rural people in texas without cars who live a 100 mile round trip distance from their nearest ID center, natives in reservations with no permanent addresses who can't use a PO box as their ID address, and poo poo like that. The entire point is to make it enough of a hassle to vote that some people so would vote wind up not doing it.
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As the great sage Goku preached, your motivation should always be to surpass your own limitations and maybe visit your family every few months
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That was in response to the gym story. I don’t recall how Goku felt about voter ID laws.
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I'm not even here to discuss voter ID. I didn't mention it to derail the thread, I brought it up to draw attention to the point that literally just having differing views is enough to be labeled a nazi by folks on the American left, which some of you dutifully jumped in to help me underscore my point.
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revmoo posted:I'm not even here to discuss voter ID. I didn't mention it to derail the thread, I brought it up to draw attention to the point that literally just having differing views is enough to be labeled a nazi by folks on the American left, which some of you dutifully jumped in to help me underscore my point. You don't think that "maybe it would be a good thing if some of our people weren't able to participate in our democracy" isn't maybe a little bit fascist?
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Smirking_Serpent posted:My [26m] girlfriend [26f] expects me to ask her parents for permission to propose, and it's causing problems. Lol holy poo poo yeah .
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Straight White Shark posted:You don't think that "maybe it would be a good thing if some of our people weren't able to participate in our democracy" isn't maybe a little bit fascist? Wait, is it racist or facist? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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