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A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


TulliusCicero posted:

:wtc:

Dude has lost it

How does he lose more every day? Like how is this relavant to anything? Who even said this to him? Did his mashed potato brain come to this "point" on his own? :psyduck:

evilweasel posted:

stress makes him lose it more, and he's stuck in a trap of his own making that has no exit and he's madly flailing around looking for an escape he knows won't be there.

He also has not felt an actual punishment for any of his actions yet. He's still the president, the GOP still defers to him 99% of the time, and his businesses haven't been attacked.

There's been 2nd or 3rd degree punishments, like the GOP losing the house, but he's so loving stupid he'll only make the connection between action and consequence if he's whacked in the face with a rolled up newspaper halfway through his dumbass sentence.

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selec
Sep 6, 2003

Esplanade posted:

What alignment do you have to be to wield that?

Under the Class Restrictions section it just says “Ruling”.

heyitsamanda
Jul 17, 2018

I mean, it's one banana Michael, what could it cost? 10 dollars?

VH4Ever posted:

Just to editorialize for a bit..THIS is the real promise and greatness of America, when it's done right. THIS is the cool stuff I love seeing, the stuff that makes me feel like we're moving in a good direction in some way. The trouble is it doesn't happen nearly enough but it makes my heart swell seeing stuff like this and gives me hope for a better tomorrow.

Amen. We have to take the victories when they come. Nothing going on yesterday, today, or tomorrow should discount the significance of this. Sure, it may end up all being a wash in the end, but drat - this is cool. And that moment is real.

Sure, zoom out and poo poo is dire.

But without the motivation of the small (yet significant) victories, how do we expect ourselves to maintain the energy to keep fighting the good fight? The fight for progressive values has always been a long and uphill battle. In this dark period I try to remind myself to "stop" and appreciate moments like this, because on the offhanded chance progressive values ultimately win the day, it's people like her who are leading the charge.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

A GIANT PARSNIP posted:

and his businesses haven't been attacked.


His charity being forcibly dissolved should count for this imo

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
https://twitter.com/maddow/status/1080618183093116928

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Trump has always been a racist, a narcissist, and laughably incompetent but his ability for his mind to seemingly shift in and out of different realities is a more recent development.

yeah, i think he is legit losing it now.

A GIANT PARSNIP posted:

He also has not felt an actual punishment for any of his actions yet. He's still the president, the GOP still defers to him 99% of the time, and his businesses haven't been attacked.

There's been 2nd or 3rd degree punishments, like the GOP losing the house, but he's so loving stupid he'll only make the connection between action and consequence if he's whacked in the face with a rolled up newspaper halfway through his dumbass sentence.

he lost his slush fund "charity" and more of his empire is on the chopping block from various state agencies. deep down he knows the house loss is on him and his people are abandoning him. i like to think we are at the beginning of the end for trump at least.

citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




KickerOfMice posted:

My love was an art history major / classics so this is only coming secondhand from my soft brain. I could be wrong. But let me tell you how stunningly arresting unexpectedly reading the phrase "graphically pornographic toilet" is. I thought that the vatican had a loot-pile of stolen art somewhere?

There's tons of shady poo poo that the Vatican has done (speaking as a Catholic) but i would not joke about the porn-toilet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/human-interest/2011/12/vatican-guide-the-popes-pornographic-bathroom.amp

The Art Curious podcast has an episode about it as well.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
LOL @ this Mr Clean looking motherfucker ballwashing Dear Leader at the cabinet meeting today.

Involuntary Sparkle
Aug 12, 2004

Chemo-kitties can have “accidents” too!

Fallom posted:

His charity being forcibly dissolved should count for this imo

I'm guessing he sees it as the Democrats doing something mean to him, not something that's a consequence of his actions.

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

citybeatnik posted:

It really wasn't, no. The Vatican paid for lots of artists through the ages for things ranging from sculptures to frescos to maps to a graphically pornographic toilet in one of the apartments there.

That and the only folks making money during the Crusades for the most part were the Venetians selling to both sides.

*edit*

The Nazi stuff gets even more batshit with the Jesuits and the like coming up with bleeding edge survellience gear in the lead up to a failed assassination attempt on Hitler.

The bolded: If anyone could recommend a good book about this, I'll be your friend forever. That actually sounds pretty fascinating.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

A GIANT PARSNIP posted:

He also has not felt an actual punishment for any of his actions yet. He's still the president, the GOP still defers to him 99% of the time, and his businesses haven't been attacked.

There's been 2nd or 3rd degree punishments, like the GOP losing the house, but he's so loving stupid he'll only make the connection between action and consequence if he's whacked in the face with a rolled up newspaper halfway through his dumbass sentence.

This is literally why the shutdown is happening though, his base was revolting over his abandoning of the wall. He was "punished" by having people like Ann Coulter call him a coward.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

KickerOfMice posted:

You know the art there that wasn't the structures and the chapel was almost all stolen from the filthy heathens in the crusades, right?

I would like to recommend anyone that gets the chance to go to the vatican and look at the art for real because you expect it to be one thing and it is 100% not that thing and is like, the coolest and most kooky art collection like, ever.

sfera con sfera is my absolute favorite art ever (it moves and you can touch it, it represents the "complexity and fragility of the world")



but it's all stuff like:














where you think it will be stuffy christian art but it's all peak nonsense and style.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Involuntary Sparkle posted:

I'm guessing he sees it as the Democrats doing something mean to him, not something that's a consequence of his actions.

He let it go so easily that I have to think this is one case where he knew they had him over a barrel without any way to spin his way out of it.

It's so crazy how little of a fuss Trump put up over that whole event that there has to be some meaning to it.

CmdrRiker
Apr 8, 2016

You dismally untalented little creep!

Priapus Unbound posted:

Cursory googling led me to this shiesty-looking but overall seemingly complete page which has the UVA letter and a link to the lecture on soundcloud where the incident happened so you can hear the actual incident in question instead of wondering if he was being racist:

https://cloverchronicle.com/2018/12/29/university-of-virginia-med-student-receives-1-year-suspension-after-microaggressions-lecture/

And this reddit breakdown, because reddit appears to be part of the drama.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/abmhvl/a_uva_med_student_gets_a_oneyear_suspension_for/

Listening to the audio now.

It sounded like a parent disciplining their lovely bratty kid. He had no idea how to even try to spin a good story out of it or admit he is an entitled middle class white kid with a lot to learn about the world.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

CmdrRiker posted:

It sounded like a parent disciplining their lovely bratty kid. He had no idea how to even try to spin a good story out of it or admit he is an entitled white kid with a lot to learn about the world.

It's an Indian guy, but probably the same level of entitlement.

citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




KickerOfMice posted:

The bolded: If anyone could recommend a good book about this, I'll be your friend forever. That actually sounds pretty fascinating.

church of spies by mark riebling is the one i was referencing.

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


Dapper_Swindler posted:

he lost his slush fund "charity" and more of his empire is on the chopping block.

"On the chopping block" isn't enough for him to actually learn a lesson, and in the scheme of things his charity was one of hundreds of trump branded grifts that eventually dried up. Trump Foundation had what, $10 million tops on hand, only a portion of which was used as a slush fund? Trump Organization has almost $10 Billion a year in revenue.

He won't feel an attack on his business until they come for trump tower or mar a lago.

Lemming posted:

This is literally why the shutdown is happening though, his base was revolting over his abandoning of the wall. He was "punished" by having people like Ann Coulter call him a coward.

I agree - the only possible punishment he's felt yet from any action at all are his best buddies at fox and friends calling him dumb for caving on the wall.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



AlBorlantern Corps posted:

So right now there's no chief of staff, attorney general, secretary of defense, secretary of interior. Am I missing any vacant position?

That's not a cabinet; that's an end-table.

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

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citybeatnik posted:

church of spies by mark riebling is the one i was referencing.

Thanks very much! :h:

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Silver2195 posted:

I believe that in addition to a) and b), a survey showed that a surprising number of med students (or maybe it was interns or even actual doctors; I'm not sure which is worse in the long run) literally believe that black people have higher pain thresholds than white people.

I remember that article, and all I can say is that I've never been taught a single thing about black people having a lower pain tolerance, and never heard it from anyone.

The closest thing was a doctor in India who said "Greek men are bitches" so ymmv

citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




Owlofcreamcheese posted:

I would like to recommend anyone that gets the chance to go to the vatican and look at the art for real because you expect it to be one thing and it is 100% not that thing and is like, the coolest and most kooky art collection like, ever.

sfera con sfera is my absolute favorite art ever (it moves and you can touch it, it represents the "complexity and fragility of the world")



but it's all stuff like:














where you think it will be stuffy christian art but it's all peak nonsense and style.

Yeah, stumbling around the Vatican was god drat breath taking and i'm not sure why folks assume that it's all boring poo poo when it's a collection built by an institution that's been around for almost two thousand years. And some of the art was donated by some very enthusiastic-if-unskilled artists.

Then you get stuff like the Roman sepulcher that got turned in to a bath tub because some cardinal wanted a tub and they had a spare laying around.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

CmdrRiker posted:

It sounded like a parent disciplining their lovely bratty kid. He had no idea how to even try to spin a good story out of it or admit he is an entitled middle class white kid with a lot to learn about the world.

What is going to gently caress him is that Daily Stormer/4chan/reddit are talking about him and the school is going to be inundated with emails.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




VH4Ever posted:

Honestly the debate happening here about "rich people" misses an important point, and that's because the posts I've seen thus far only talk about how to deal with that problem under the system of laws in this country. To that idea I say: good loving luck. Stuff like the Panama Papers and other similar leaks over the last few years should have demonstrated that there's a level of wealth you attain where laws of a particular country no longer apply to you. Not sure how you combat this without the whole Western World coordinating together and even then, not sure how best to crack that nut.

Take a look into the work towards "registers of beneficial owners".

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

I would like to recommend anyone that gets the chance to go to the vatican and look at the art for real because you expect it to be one thing and it is 100% not that thing and is like, the coolest and most kooky art collection like, ever.

sfera con sfera is my absolute favorite art ever (it moves and you can touch it, it represents the "complexity and fragility of the world")



but it's all stuff like:














where you think it will be stuffy christian art but it's all peak nonsense and style.

You post this but not "The Resurrrection"? I would but I'm on my phone right now.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Lol

https://twitter.com/Cmkahn/status/1080585866525982720

Mr. Vile
Nov 25, 2009

And, where there is treasure, there will be Air Pirates.

Esplanade posted:

What alignment do you have to be to wield that?

He's not wielding it because he's holding it upside down. The little knob thing on the end is the actual head, but the seal on the handle has become more and more ornate over the years so now it gets carried upside down to show off the seal instead. It's a metaphor for the entirety of UK politics, honestly.

SickZip
Jul 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

FizFashizzle posted:

I remember that article, and all I can say is that I've never been taught a single thing about black people having a lower pain tolerance, and never heard it from anyone.

The closest thing was a doctor in India who said "Greek men are bitches" so ymmv

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3654683/

https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/pain-and-ethnicity/2013-05

inignot
Sep 1, 2003

WWBCD?

citybeatnik posted:

No. But as i've mentioned before my encounters with the phrase out in the real world tend to be from straight white dudes shouting it. Wealth and class play a massive part in things yes but i find it reductive to the point of parody to say that they're the only driving force when you have institutional racism all over the drat place.

But then i'm the mind of idiot who feels that the response to the NRA loving things up is to start donating to your local John Brown Gun Club or Redneck Revolt chapter.

I can't speak for all straight white dudes (also, when did that become synonymous with contemptible right wing mouth-breather?), but I find that identity politics has descended into parody. It seems like a cheap pop topic that do nothing milquetoast centrist corporate Democrats will pull out to look progressive while doing nothing that challenges anything. Example, over the summer the DNC held a meeting in which they 1)mildly reduced the role of super delegates in subverting the will of primary voters 2) adopted non binary gender language in their charter.

If I'm an rear end in a top hat for rating health care for all, progressive taxation, increasing the minimum wage, stronger unions, reduced military hegemony, ending the drug war, ending mass incarceration, ending reliance on fossil fuels, comprehensive immigration reform, increasing the size of the house of representatives, ending the filibuster, statehood for DC & Puerto Rico, etc; over whatever pet issue the lesbian left handed albino dwarves of partially Aleutian descent are on about this week, then I'll be the rear end in a top hat.

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1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

GOP doing a great job separating themselves from Trump.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
Harry Reid is dying.

quote:

Reid’s decision, in 2013, to get rid of the filibuster for judicial appointments. Reid remains unrepentant about this. “They can say what they want,” he told me. “We had over 100 judges that we couldn’t get approved, so I had no choice. Either Obama’s presidency would be a joke or Obama’s presidency would be one of fruition.”

...

When we spoke, Reid told me he did not wish to be seen as second-guessing Schumer. “My personal feeling should have nothing to do with it,” he said. But clearly Reid has more than a few of those personal feelings. He has told confidants that he felt Schumer was too eager to assume his job before Reid was ready to leave. Reid has also criticized, privately, Schumer’s instinct for accommodation with both McConnell and Trump.

In our conversation, Reid seemed incapable of not constantly reminding me that he did not wish to talk about Schumer, as if this itself was something he wanted me to emphasize. “I do not call Schumer,” he told me. Then: “I call him once in a while — not weekly. Let’s say monthly I may call him.” This sounded straightforward enough until he added: “I talk to Nancy often. I love Nancy Pelosi. We did so many good things, and we still talk about that.” And just the day before, he said, he called Richard Durbin, the Illinois Democrat who, along with Schumer, was Reid’s top lieutenant in the Senate and is now Schumer’s Democratic whip. “We came to the House together in 1982,” Reid said of Durbin. “We had wonderful conversations.” (Schumer declined to be interviewed; his spokesman said in a statement that Schumer and Reid “have different styles but they complemented each other well. They are still good friends and talk regularly.”)

On the Friday afternoon before Christmas, just hours before the government shut down over Trump’s demands for more funding for a border wall, I called Reid to see how closely he was following this latest brinkmanship. “Landra and I have been watching the news; we have it on now,” Reid told me. The shutdown, he allowed, was “interesting.” Reid takes an anthropological interest in the changes that Trump has wrought on his old institution. “You can’t legislate when you have a chief executive who’s weird, for lack of a better description,” he told me. He said he could never understand how his former Senate colleague Jeff Sessions allowed himself to be so abused and humiliated by the president. “Why in the hell didn’t Sessions leave?” he said. “Same with Kelly,” referring to the departing chief of staff, John Kelly. “I’d say, ‘Go screw yourself.’ I could not look my children in the eye.”

CmdrRiker
Apr 8, 2016

You dismally untalented little creep!

Fallom posted:

It's an Indian guy, but probably the same level of entitlement.

Oh drat, sorry.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

What is going to gently caress him is that Daily Stormer/4chan/reddit are talking about him and the school is going to be inundated with emails.

I hope he learns something. The worst part was how he didn't know how to even address the idea of anyone having bad feelings other than him.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

1glitch0 posted:

GOP doing a great job separating themselves from Trump.

I assume you could only choose one option.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Maine continues to be “That otherwise useless clump of land that holds up the Maritimes.”

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

inignot posted:

I can't speak for all straight white dudes (also, when did that become synonymous with contemptible right wing mouth-breather?), but I find that identity politics has descended into parody.

Because straight white dude is basically a tribalistic identity at this point?

quote:

It seems like a cheap pop topic that do nothing milquetoast centrist corporate Democrats will pull out to look progressive while doing nothing that challenges anything. Example, over the summer the DNC held a meeting in which they 1)mildly reduced the role of super delegates in subverting the will of primary voters 2) adopted non binary gender language in their charter.

If I'm an rear end in a top hat for rating health care for all, progressive taxation, increasing the minimum wage, stronger unions, reduced military hegemony, ending the drug war, ending mass incarceration, ending reliance on fossil fuels, comprehensive immigration reform, increasing the size of the house of representatives, ending the filibuster, statehood for DC & Puerto Rico, etc; over whatever pet issue the lesbian left handed albino dwarves of partially Aleutian descent are on about this week, then I'll be the rear end in a top hat.

Yikes, also way to equate non-binary people getting a bit of formal recognition wiuth 'lesbian left handed albino dwarves of partially Aleutian descent'

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Jan 3, 2019

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

inignot posted:

I can't speak for all straight white dudes (also, when did that become synonymous with contemptible right wing mouth-breather?), but I find that identity politics has descended into parody. It seems like a cheap pop topic that do nothing milquetoast centrist corporate Democrats will pull out to look progressive while doing nothing that challenges anything. Example, over the summer the DNC held a meeting in which they 1)mildly reduced the role of super delegates in subverting the will of primary voters 2) adopted non binary gender language in their charter.

If I'm an rear end in a top hat for rating health care for all, progressive taxation, increasing the minimum wage, stronger unions, reduced military hegemony, ending the drug war, ending mass incarceration, ending reliance on fossil fuels, comprehensive immigration reform, increasing the size of the house of representatives, ending the filibuster, statehood for DC & Puerto Rico, etc; over whatever pet issue the lesbian left handed albino dwarves of partially Aleutian descent are on about this week, then I'll be the rear end in a top hat.

:yikes:

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

It's important to remember how much better a Senate Caucus leader Harry Reid was than Chuck Schumer.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



FizFashizzle posted:

It's not that, it's that

a.) they don't think black people will pay and

b.) they think black people are faking their symptoms to get scripts.

small difference, still hideously racist, especially when i have white patients from western north carolina faking MS so they can get on medicare and have pills.

Dude the first time I had a trigeminal neuralgia flare up the pain was so bad I could barely speak, turn my head or move my (right) arm the ER doc told me it was a migraine and to go home and take some ibuprofen without running a single test, despite knowing my mom found me in the bottom of the shower, picked me up and drug me over there and I described it as an electrical burning between sobs.

I had to go through several more ER visits and neurologists before anyone even acted like they believed me My current neurologist is my hero tbh. He is my McDreamy 😂😂

Koalas March fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Jan 3, 2019

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

inignot posted:

I can't speak for all straight white dudes (also, when did that become synonymous with contemptible right wing mouth-breather?), but I find that identity politics has descended into parody. It seems like a cheap pop topic that do nothing milquetoast centrist corporate Democrats will pull out to look progressive while doing nothing that challenges anything. Example, over the summer the DNC held a meeting in which they 1)mildly reduced the role of super delegates in subverting the will of primary voters 2) adopted non binary gender language in their charter.

If I'm an rear end in a top hat for rating health care for all, progressive taxation, increasing the minimum wage, stronger unions, reduced military hegemony, ending the drug war, ending mass incarceration, ending reliance on fossil fuels, comprehensive immigration reform, increasing the size of the house of representatives, ending the filibuster, statehood for DC & Puerto Rico, etc; over whatever pet issue the lesbian left handed albino dwarves of partially Aleutian descent are on about this week, then I'll be the rear end in a top hat.
When we were stupid enough as a demographic to elect Trump.

The super delegates technically exist, but there's no way for them to pick at this point, so mildly reduced is wrong.

As for that second paragraph, what set that off?

citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




inignot posted:

I can't speak for all straight white dudes (also, when did that become synonymous with contemptible right wing mouth-breather?), but I find that identity politics has descended into parody. It seems like a cheap pop topic that do nothing milquetoast centrist corporate Democrats will pull out to look progressive while doing nothing that challenges anything. Example, over the summer the DNC held a meeting in which they 1)mildly reduced the role of super delegates in subverting the will of primary voters 2) adopted non binary gender language in their charter.

If I'm an rear end in a top hat for rating health care for all, progressive taxation, increasing the minimum wage, stronger unions, reduced military hegemony, ending the drug war, ending mass incarceration, ending reliance on fossil fuels, comprehensive immigration reform, increasing the size of the house of representatives, ending the filibuster, statehood for DC & Puerto Rico, etc; over whatever pet issue the lesbian left handed albino dwarves of partially Aleutian descent are on about this week, then I'll be the rear end in a top hat.

Straight white dudes telling PoC, women, or LGBT folks that is, to me, the same as shouting "all lives matter!" at them. If KM or any other person wants to weigh in and tell me that I'm wrong then I'm cool with their take.

But, you know, good on you for volunteering to be an rear end in a top hat?

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selec
Sep 6, 2003

There is no effective socialism without feminism and anti racism; an anti racist or feminist worldview that does not specifically address economic inequalities is just as hollow.

When people talk about intersectionality, it means an analysis that accounts for all the ways in which we differ, and socioeconomics cannot be excluded if you want to get any meaningful understanding.

When people say “white feminism” they are describing the attempts to divorce feminism from antiracism and anticapitalism. It turns it into a hectoring insistence that we need More Women Prison Guards and doesn’t do a drat thing to address root causes.

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