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TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

snoot posted:

Pretty much agree, I enjoyed it while I was watching it, but it didn't add up to much for me. Ooh it's the same house as the one outside of the shimmer, because, um, that's one of the themes. That bit reminded me of Down By Law, where it was a gag and drawing parallels to the prison.

I've thought more about Cam and its take on identity and personas than Annihilation. BTW, I don't really buy what seems to be a common explanation for the strange happenings in Cam AI/CGI, I don't think it needs a neat explanation.
I liked Cam and you're right that it takes on similar themes to Annihilation. It's fine if your reading of the film doesn't like up with the common explanation of AI/CGI but FWIW I listened to a podcast with the director who literally said that's what it is. Again, I like the movie ,but that sort of lines up with my reading of it, which is that Cam has a fairly pat, easy answer. Annihilation, meanwhile, I think is a masterpiece, and it has certainly kept me thinking much longer than Cam. Part of that is because Annihilation has more characters who have more reactions to the main question in the movie, and part of it is that the transcendent moment in Annihilation, the mime dance, worked a lot better for me than the transcendent moment in Cam, the mirror/infinite picture in picture moment. They both worked well, but the former left me spellbound, whereas the latter got me to sit up in my seat but didn't go anywhere else with it beyond the initial (amazing) conceit.

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regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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TychoCelchuuu posted:

I liked Cam and you're right that it takes on similar themes to Annihilation. It's fine if your reading of the film doesn't like up with the common explanation of AI/CGI but FWIW I listened to a podcast with the director who literally said that's what it is. Again, I like the movie ,but that sort of lines up with my reading of it, which is that Cam has a fairly pat, easy answer. Annihilation, meanwhile, I think is a masterpiece, and it has certainly kept me thinking much longer than Cam. Part of that is because Annihilation has more characters who have more reactions to the main question in the movie, and part of it is that the transcendent moment in Annihilation, the mime dance, worked a lot better for me than the transcendent moment in Cam, the mirror/infinite picture in picture moment. They both worked well, but the former left me spellbound, whereas the latter got me to sit up in my seat but didn't go anywhere else with it beyond the initial (amazing) conceit.

If you're interested in this theme you might try the early 80s Crichton-penned Looker. I wonder how well it has aged.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

veni veni veni posted:


maybe the new true detective will be good.

It's not like it can get worse. I was amazed after S2 they said they were doing S3.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I didn't make it past the first episode of season 2.

Oh yeah/ recent HBO Stuff, how could I forget Barry? barry is great.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

tweet my meat posted:

The Orville honestly handles its serious topics with a good amount of tact. It also tackles some more iffy subjects that a Star Trek would have explored in a much more sanitized way.

I also like that despite a good chunk of the crew being pretty goofy, they're all quite competent at their jobs and they don't play them as bumbling fools for laughs.

Still amazed that this is the same man that did Family Guy.

I mean, early Family Guy was pretty good. It got brought back from the dead for a reason. But Orville knocks it out of the park on the regular. It has the goofyness dialed in just right- it makes it feel like the characters are people who have been doing their job for a while. Real people are never TNG serious at work.

Nihonniboku posted:

They did this 10 years ago or so. They decided that they wanted to get out of the big TV production game, so they canceled their more expensive shows like Deadwood, Rome and Carnivale, and put out a bunch of much cheaper shows. We did get some good things out of it like Flight of the Conchords, Summer Heights High and Eastdown and Bound. But we also got Tell Me You Love Me, and John from Cincinnati. And none of these did all that well, regardless of quality. The only true hit they got out of this era was True Blood.

Once Game of Thrones ends in a few months and everybody cancels their HBO subscriptions, they're going to realize, "Oh, gently caress...", they're going to realize that they need more than one big hit at a time.

RIP Carnivale. I loved that show and was so pissed when I hit the finale and there wouldn’t be any more episodes. I wasn’t even mad about the cliffhanger-y stuff, I just wanted more.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic
I like that The Orville is willing to explore the less noble side effects of Federation technology. Do people use the holodeck for porn? Of course they do.

old.flv
Jan 28, 2017

A good lad who likes his Anna's.
True Detective 2 was so bad - I really cannot get my hopes up

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Season 2 of True Detective was good, it was just different than season 1 and that's why people didn't like it as much.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
It was different than S1 in that it was very boring.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Season 2 of Room 104 is definitely better than the first.

The Endless on Netflix is a really cool little low budget movie. Reminded me a lot of Coherence

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Lycus posted:

It was different than S1 in that it was very boring.

I think S2 would have been better suited to a reduced episode order, like 4 or 5 episodes, and the removal of some of the minor arcs. I thought Rachel McAdams and Vince Vaughan did a decent job with what they were given.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I liked True Detective S2 a lot but I know that opinion is in the minority and I'm okay with that

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



I got bored with the first season of True Detective back when it came out, I felt like very little was actually happening. I've gone back to shows and liked them before, though I suspect vaguely knowing the ending might make it considerably harder to enjoy on a fresh attempt at rewatching it

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

precision posted:

Season 2 of Room 104 is definitely better than the first.

The Endless on Netflix is a really cool little low budget movie. Reminded me a lot of Coherence

Quoting myself to correct that it reminded me of Resolution, not Coherence. I always get those two mixed up.

Also, is Toad Road still streaming anywhere? Meant to watch it a second time

isaboo
Nov 11, 2002

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Resolution and The Endless are in the same universe and share a couple of characters. There's also Spring (which I haven't seen) that I think has loose ties to the other two films. Pretty sure the creative duo behind them have at least one other in-universe film in the works

edit: can't find it now but I posted a link in some other TVIV thread about the writer/ directors talking about how they've fleshed out a lot of their universe for more films

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punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Finished watching "Chilling Adventures of Sabrina". It was very good.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

pahuyuth posted:

Resolution and The Endless are in the same universe and share a couple of characters. There's also Spring (which I haven't seen) that I think has loose ties to the other two films. Pretty sure the creative duo behind them have at least one other in-universe film in the works

edit: can't find it now but I posted a link in some other TVIV thread about the writer/ directors talking about how they've fleshed out a lot of their universe for more films

I know, but I thought outright saying that would spoil the holy poo poo moment that I had when the movies crossed paths :shobon:

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

pahuyuth posted:

Resolution and The Endless are in the same universe and share a couple of characters. There's also Spring (which I haven't seen) that I think has loose ties to the other two films. Pretty sure the creative duo behind them have at least one other in-universe film in the works

edit: can't find it now but I posted a link in some other TVIV thread about the writer/ directors talking about how they've fleshed out a lot of their universe for more films

Maybe it’s just because I had zero expectations going in, but Spring kind of blew me away with how much I enjoyed it. Haven’t seen Resolution yet, but The Endless was pretty great.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


precision posted:

Season 2 of Room 104 is definitely better than the first.

I feel like they are pretty much on par with each other, because they are both wildly inconsistent and neither season has produced a really great episode. A lot of them are pretty good though. Imo season 1 actually had a few memorable eps unlike season 2.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Frog Act posted:

I watched Annihilation after reading everyone in this thread discuss it, having never heard of it before that, and I was pretty disappointed. It felt like an earnest attempt at making a good movie that just fell flat and was borderline nonsensical at time, and even though it was mostly explained, I still didn't find the explanations compelling and the twist at the end was obvious from a mile away, and felt tacked on

Um...Annihilation didn't have a twist... :confused:

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Brocktoon posted:

Um...Annihilation didn't have a twist... :confused:

I guess they're talking about how it's revealed towards the end in the video tape that Portman's husband didn't actually come back, it was a clone/doppelganger.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
When you're accustomed to corridors, every turn is a twist

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Basebf555 posted:

I guess they're talking about how it's revealed towards the end in the video tape that Portman's husband didn't actually come back, it was a clone/doppelganger.

also the extremely short shot at the end where both of their eyes change color to indicate neither of them are "them", which was confusing since if Natalie Portman's character could tell she had been refracted just by looking at a drop of her blood under a microscope, surely the super secret mega scientists figured out she was a refraction or whatever, but it is heavily implied they did not during the questioning and last scene

I guess twist isn't the right word, but it was lazy and predictable

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Frog Act posted:

also the extremely short shot at the end where both of their eyes change color to indicate neither of them are "them", which was confusing since if Natalie Portman's character could tell she had been refracted just by looking at a drop of her blood under a microscope, surely the super secret mega scientists figured out she was a refraction or whatever, but it is heavily implied they did not during the questioning and last scene

How would they know to do that? No one knows anything about the shimmer except Portman.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



veni veni veni posted:

How would they know to do that? No one knows anything about the shimmer except Portman.

it just seems obvious to me that the government scientists investigating an alien phenomenon would have done basic physical stuff like a blood test on the people who managed to survive

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Frog Act posted:

also the extremely short shot at the end where both of their eyes change color to indicate neither of them are "them", which was confusing since if Natalie Portman's character could tell she had been refracted just by looking at a drop of her blood under a microscope, surely the super secret mega scientists figured out she was a refraction or whatever, but it is heavily implied they did not during the questioning and last scene

I guess twist isn't the right word, but it was lazy and predictable

I guess I just don’t see how it’s “a twist”, “lazy” or “predictable” when it’s telegraphed throughout the entire movie? Like, it’s one of the fundamental core themes of the movie. What’s you’re mentioning is in now way supposed to be a “gotcha” moment.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Frog Act posted:

also the extremely short shot at the end where both of their eyes change color to indicate neither of them are "them", which was confusing since if Natalie Portman's character could tell she had been refracted just by looking at a drop of her blood under a microscope, surely the super secret mega scientists figured out she was a refraction or whatever, but it is heavily implied they did not during the questioning and last scene

I guess twist isn't the right word, but it was lazy and predictable

I don't agree that is what happened. I just watched it last night, and read some things about it today, and my impression was that She came out as herself, but she's still changed. But she's also okay with her husband being just the doppleganger.

10 Beers
May 21, 2005

Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

Good news, everyone! The 1990 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie is on Prime! :dance::neckbeard::ninja:

MrXmas
Apr 10, 2006

Let's Get Sweaty

Nihonniboku posted:

I don't agree that is what happened. I just watched it last night, and read some things about it today, and my impression was that She came out as herself, but she's still changed. But she's also okay with her husband being just the doppleganger.

If you absolutely have to read the film literally, yes, this is the best you can get. Because the movie is about how tragedy/trauma/life affects people and either destroys them (the rest of the team's deaths all match the nature of their own trauma) or changes them into someone new..

SunshineDanceParty
Feb 7, 2006

One Road. Two Friends. One Ass.

Frog Act posted:

also the extremely short shot at the end where both of their eyes change color to indicate neither of them are "them", which was confusing since if Natalie Portman's character could tell she had been refracted just by looking at a drop of her blood under a microscope, surely the super secret mega scientists figured out she was a refraction or whatever, but it is heavily implied they did not during the questioning and last scene

I guess twist isn't the right word, but it was lazy and predictable

That's the entire movie though. No one returns from the Shimmer the same. She has a tattoo in the interview, we see in the video that Kane's accent has changed. Everything blends together in there and it's shown throughout the movie not just at the end.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

10 Beers posted:

Good news, everyone! The 1990 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie is on Prime! :dance::neckbeard::ninja:

Call me back when it's Secret of the Ooze.

10 Beers
May 21, 2005

Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

feedmyleg posted:

Call me back when it's Secret of the Ooze.

:eng99:

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

feedmyleg posted:

Call me back when it's Secret of the Ooze.

nah. They’re both fun but the first flick legit gets dangerously close to being a “good” movie.

Parachute
May 18, 2003
in similar news, i saw that they added bill & ted's bogus journey to prime which is a way better sequel than anyone could have expected that went in a different way than the original


see also: gremlins 2

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
I tried to rewatch the first TMNT movie a couple months back and just couldn’t get through it. I loved it when I was a kid but something about it just put me to sleep this time around.

Parachute
May 18, 2003
iirc its a really dimly-lit movie like AVP: Requiem

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

I just love how weird and grimy it is. It’s almost shot like a Walter Hill movie or something

But you know.

With giant turtles

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Fart City posted:

nah. They’re both fun but the first flick legit gets dangerously close to being a “good” movie.

For real. I rewatched it the other night for the first time since I was a kid, and it’s really hard for me to critique it because it’s such a nostalgia bomb, but I honestly think it’s a good movie.

That scene where MC hammer is playing and all the kids are smoking and drinking is still loving badass too.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


K. Waste posted:

I still haven’t seen Dredd, but the only garland I really vibe with is Never Let Me Go

Not 28 Days Later and Sunshine? I thought you were cool!

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old.flv
Jan 28, 2017

A good lad who likes his Anna's.

veni veni veni posted:

That scene where MC hammer is playing and all the kids are smoking and drinking is still loving badass too.

if that was in the underground skate park then a young Sam Rockwell is featured

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEWLnvqOsls

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