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Internet Explorer posted:I don't think content rights holders will be super jazzed about adding their content to a platform that only really exists to play pirated crap without major concessions. And if the Plex team is working on chasing that money, the rest is sure to take a back seat. Yeah, I'm curious to see where they go with this. It's not new that they've been trying to expand outside the basic Plex Premium subscriber base, what's new is they are starting to succeed. And hard to imagine any content producers looking at it and thinking, sure, put my content right alongside pirated versions of my other content. Maybe a user will see something they like I make, but instead of dealing with commercials it'll just motivate them to download it. Sounds great! That said, I've always been impressed with Plex, the business, ability to walk the line when it comes to commercial deals. Kodi is viewed as a flat out piracy facilitator, to the point where some major online marketplaces refuse to carry their app, and now Sony is actively blocking them even from the Google Play store on their TVs. Yet, from a content owner perspective, Plex is seen as something different even though it facilitates piracy in the same way.
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vaginite posted:Spec chart helps alot - thanks - think I'll consider a shield per the later comment though. Cat6 if you want gigabit ethernet.
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Bonzo posted:Cat6 if you want gigabit ethernet. Cat5E is perfectly fine for gigabit.
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Bonzo posted:Cat6 if you want gigabit ethernet. This is patently wrong. Cat5 (no e, but good luck buying something not labeled 5e) is good for 100meters of gigabit ethernet.
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Atomizer posted:The only things that concern me about that one is that since it only has 2 bays, capacity is limited and it can't do RAID5, which is the one RAID level I'd be interested in using in such a configuration. You're then limited to RAID0 or 1 (realistically the latter, or JBOD, because you don't need RAID0 as even Gigabit Ethernet is a bottleneck for a single good drive.) The 4-bay PR4100 is the more flexible variant. If being able to RAID 4 of them together is important I'll just get the 4 bay then. My wife always knew where this was going when I set a budget. Alternatively, can I get a 2 bay and just throw a 1TB SSD in it? 1TB is plenty for now, found one in budget, and can always expand later when the stuff gets cheaper. If the second idea is dumb I'll skip it and get a 4 bay, my credit card is ready. Thanks.
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I bought a 2 bay synology DS218+. It has its own plex server app and does hardware decoding. With that and 2 drives it was probably just under $400.
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H110Hawk posted:This is patently wrong. Cat5 (no e, but good luck buying something not labeled 5e) is good for 100meters of gigabit ethernet. I have cable labelled Cat5e in my walls and I do get gigabit through it. We're I to fit it now I would put in Cat6 (or greater), but I'm not going to swap out the Cat5e yet, it's working just fine.
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Heners_UK posted:I have cable labelled Cat5e in my walls and I do get gigabit through it. We're I to fit it now I would put in Cat6 (or greater), but I'm not going to swap out the Cat5e yet, it's working just fine. I wouldn't swap it until you had a good reason to, like a rat chewed through it. We're a ways off from where 1gig isn't enough for a home user. New installs you should go for a modern standard because why not, but this other poster: Bonzo posted:Cat6 if you want gigabit ethernet. Is flatly wrong. Cat 5 was the standard when 1000Base-T was specified and is good for 100 meters unless you have insane interference or a comical number of intermediate patch panels. Cat5e/6/6a is better at handling those issues to help you reach the 100meter segment length limit but is not required unless your environment calls for it.
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Cat5 can easily handle up to a gig and slightly beyond, as already mentioned. Cat6 and 6a cables allow for higher frequencies (250MHz and 500MHz respectively) which is needed for multi-gig - 10GbE, normally - and in the case of 6a, longer lengths for 10GBase-T (6 is 55 meters at 10GBase-T, 6a is 100m. Both are far longer than even large homes require). Most 10GbE users, even in the home, use fiber instead as it's cheaper (on the used market) and consumes less power. SFP+ ports also don't run nearly as hot as 10GBase-T for the latter reason. You'd only go to the trouble if you knew you needed it and knew what you were doing. For example most home storage systems can't push anywhere near 10GbE to begin with so it is wasted capacity. I'm one of the weird ones using 10GbE with 10GBase-T but I run a home lab that does a lot more than play host to my Emby & Plex servers and I have some Optane drives that can push data as fast as my network will let them. 1GbE is perfectly fine for most home users doing media streaming. In fact even that is normally overkill. That said not all 1GbE ports are equal and some devices (particularly Smart TVs) save money by not even using them (sticking with 100MbE), so it really depends on your setup.
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Anyone tried the Serenity plug app? Looks like its an interface for Plex and Emby on Android TV
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Bonzo posted:Anyone tried the Serenity plug app? Looks like its an interface for Plex and Emby on Android TV The developer has moved to Emby so while the client was originally developed for Plex anyone's guess how well it will be supported there going forward. It's just another 3rd party client. It's focused on watching movies&tv shows and doesn't do anything much that the official clients don't do (actually, it does less) and uses Exoplayer as well, but some people like the more focused look. Depends on what you want out of your client, I guess. On the Emby side I think their own Android TV client has improved so much that there's not much point to this one but you can always try out the beta (which is free) from the developer if you want to check it out, on Plex or Emby.
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Limited quantities left, but this is a cheap option for a powerful PMS. The CPU is great, and it really only needs an SSD. It's basically a newer version of the Acer that I bought for my PMS. It can even fit a graphics card for gaming, but I'd suggest only going up to a 1050 Ti (like I did) without upgrading the PSU.
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Anyone had issues with their client on the Apple TV reloading itself for no apparent reason during use? Only when in the menus, but quite irritating and been doing it about a week now. Plex Pass, ATV 4K, assume the latest version.
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I don't think this is a plex specific issue as it affects other apps too, but I'm getting weird glitches or artefacts in my media. Redownloading the same file and NOT moving it to my NAS, the file itself is fine. Once it's in my nas, it'll get glitchy. VLC, Windows, MacOS, all experience the same issue. Old files on the NAS don't have the issue. I'm assuming my raid1 setup is decaying or writing data to bad sectors or something? It only started happening after freeing up a bunch of space by deleting a swathe of MP3s. Smart status on both disks is fine, but they're pretty crunchy. I did ask in the NAS thread but they didn't respond.
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Just picked up this, and set it up as my new plex server. I dont k ow if you can get more power for dollar... as long as you can handle the huge case. Benchmark score is +21k https://m.newegg.com/products/9SIAC0F88A8388?Ignorebbr=true Cornjob fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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Passmark for the e5-2690 is only 13.6k. Edit: it's dual socket, I'm an idiot.
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I’m interested in the Plex DVR thing. I thought tuners were still PCI cards and realized the supported ones all looked like USB. I actually don’t have many USB ports on my case (Node 804) and would be doing device pass through from Proxmox to an LXC container. Does anyone have a strong recommendation for a tuner? I’d want to run a standard F connector cable tv cable out from it since my servers are in the basement. Will this pass the wife test (she already uses Plex) and worth cancelling YouTube TV for this season when all our TV is OTA anyway ? EDit: actually looks like the HDhomerun duo has Ethernet and thus I could keep my tuner and plex box away from each other. Does this work well? I definitely have Ethernet between them. Is transcoding an issue? Hed fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Feb 1, 2019 |
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Cornjob posted:Just picked up this, and set it up as my new plex server. I dont k ow if you can get more power for dollar... as long as you can handle the huge case. Also, the power consumption: 130W on each chip. But it'll stream whatever you want it to as many times as needed.
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Hed posted:I’m interested in the Plex DVR thing. I thought tuners were still PCI cards and realized the supported ones all looked like USB. I actually don’t have many USB ports on my case (Node 804) and would be doing device pass through from Proxmox to an LXC container. Works well for me. Needs to be restarted every now and then. My entire setup is Ethernet. Not sure about transcoding because my server is overkill but I have no issues. I can’t speak to cancelling YouTubeTV but it’s easy for my wife to use.
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Cornjob posted:Just picked up this, and set it up as my new plex server. I dont k ow if you can get more power for dollar... as long as you can handle the huge case. Looks fun, even if those are Sandy Bridge-era chips. I was also going to mention the power requirements of that thing. If you need all that performance to transcode UHD stuff, then great, otherwise something more modest would be far more power-efficient.
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Atomizer posted:Looks fun, even if those are Sandy Bridge-era chips. I was also going to mention the power requirements of that thing. If you need all that performance to transcode UHD stuff, then great, otherwise something more modest would be far more power-efficient. Thankfully you should be to the point in technology where you can have the chips go into a pretty deep sleep state (lower voltage, clockrate, etc) when they aren't being used. It's probably cheaper to just buy something newer with one of the hardware rendering engines though.
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I have a server I assembled out of used Ebay parts (Supermicro X9 MB, dual Xeon 2680v2, etc.) that I use for test lab stuff. Most of the time I have it powered off because it is a power hog/space heater; also, it would be ridiculous overkill for a Plex server/NAS setup. I mean, it'll work, but it's kind of dumb for that use case. I'm currently rocking a Xeon-D 1541 (45w TDP) which works just fine. When the Xeon-E series is more widely available I'll probably switch to that, they are fairly cheap, power efficient, and (unusually for a Xeon) have the onboard Intel IGP (640) which works with both Plex and Emby for hardware transcoding. It's practically made for "media server/NAS" use cases. Only problem right now is they are still hard to find via retail channels, but that is changing.
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I upgraded my Plex server from a Propus II X4 840/8GB DDR3 to a Ryzen 3 2200G/16GB DDR4. Also transferred the OS/Plex install to an NVMe drive; was previously on a 1TB mechanical drive. Now the server is super snappy. The Ryzen is also capable of HW encoding, but man I can tell the difference in quality when I have that enabled (it's noticeably worse). Reason I went with Ryzen is it's also used to stream games to a Steam Link, and the Ryzen's IGPU is a beast that's capable of playing stuff like Fortnite and Overwatch at 720p60+ no problem.
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H110Hawk posted:Thankfully you should be to the point in technology where you can have the chips go into a pretty deep sleep state (lower voltage, clockrate, etc) when they aren't being used. It's probably cheaper to just buy something newer with one of the hardware rendering engines though. I plan on adding a nvidia quadro p2000 sometime... if i can score a deal Regarding power consumption, I assumed it would only be a power hog when transcoding, which is fine. We live in Oregon so our household power use is only high in the hot summer. Cornjob fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Feb 2, 2019 |
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Cornjob posted:I plan on adding a nvidia quadro p2000 sometime... if i can score a deal Sandy Bridge Xeons still idle high, and you also have to factor in things like the fans, etc. You can easily idle at 120w with 2 of those Xeons, 3 fans, and just a couple spinning drives. It's a serious waste for a Plex server. On the other hand, if you got it super cheap off Ebay and your power cost is low, like 9-12c/kWh, you may not care as much, though it's also possible to find cheap EBay solutions that consume much less power at idle/max that work just as well. The P2000 will of course add even more to this. And throwing that on top of dual Sandy Bridge Xeons....how many simultaneous streams are you planning on serving? 50?
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Hed posted:I’m interested in the Plex DVR thing. I thought tuners were still PCI cards and realized the supported ones all looked like USB. I actually don’t have many USB ports on my case (Node 804) and would be doing device pass through from Proxmox to an LXC container. Plex passes the wife test with flying colors. Playback and setting recordings is easy. I have a HDhomerun prime on Ethernet in different room from the server (which is just s 4th gen i5) and I have zero issues with transcoding. In fact, I'm pretty sure everything plays as direct play.
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Ixian posted:Sandy Bridge Xeons still idle high, and you also have to factor in things like the fans, etc. You can easily idle at 120w with 2 of those Xeons, 3 fans, and just a couple spinning drives. I know its overkill. I paid $480. I only serve friends and family. About 12 at the moment. rarely do i see more than 3 concurrent streams. I use it for more than PMS, i do some encoding on it. Ill see how much my power bill goes up. :-) Im thinking ill add a sleep schedule... no one uses late night.
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Cornjob posted:I know its overkill. I paid $480. I only serve friends and family. About 12 at the moment. rarely do i see more than 3 concurrent streams. I have a Quadro P600 laying around you could have...
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So, I run Plex with the premium pass. I have 10 managed users, half of them are remote. I have 300/300 Fios package and I get complaints that it buffers a lot sometimes, not sure if it is something on my end or their's. my server is robust enough. Intel Xeon V2 1245 3.40 ghz, 16GB ECC RAM hardware transcoding, most of the stuff is direct played, even remotely, but the transcoding barely spikes past 10% percent on the CPU with multiple streams. I am using the G1100 router currently from Verizon with the server behind a gigabit switch, I used to use my Netgear R7000, but when I switched to the 300/300 plan, it didn't get that speed until I hooked the Verizon router back up. any ideas, suggestions?
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Install tautulli on the server and watch what it's doing when you're getting complaints. When something is transcoding it will report the status on it - either an "x" number if it's actively transcoding at the moment, or "Throttled" if the transcoder is far enough ahead that Plex is holding off on doing more work. If the transcoder is throttling (or reporting a speed of at least 1x), then it's not a server load issue. If the transcoder is reporting a speed of less than 1x, then it's running slower than real time and you've got too little horsepower to support the workload.
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I can tell you that anytime I check on it it is throttled.
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derk posted:I can tell you that anytime I check on it it is throttled. Then there's your answer, it's not your server. Could theoretically be anything on the entire network connection from your server through to whatever they're playing it on, but streaming video is not hard work for even a lovely router to pass through. I'd expect anything on your network side of the equation to also cause issues with your general day-to-day use of the internet, so I wouldn't focus too much there.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Then there's your answer, it's not your server. Could theoretically be anything on the entire network connection from your server through to whatever they're playing it on, but streaming video is not hard work for even a lovely router to pass through. I'd expect anything on your network side of the equation to also cause issues with your general day-to-day use of the internet, so I wouldn't focus too much there. Alright. I was pretty certain my network should not be the problem. Buffering is all on the client side right? I know for the TV downstairs on wifi I had to adjust the client buffer to stop that from happening, basically the buffer was too small, increased the buffer size and voila, no more stuttering and buffering issues since!
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