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Dagen H posted:I tried to do this by logging onto an automotive forum, but welp P.much. I killed off a vast majority of my friends list on Facebook because of politi-chat. Things were getting insane to the point of "Stubbed my toe and here's why it's (opposite side political figures)'s fault!" I had to make sure it wasn't The Onion. I miss the non-affordable internet where people that were using it were enthusiasts genuinely chatting to share knowledge.
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The Internet was a mistake. At the very least, it's a two-edged sword. On the one hand: massive access to knowledge! On the other hand: massive access to (other) idiots! edit: but, yeah, that's why most of my time is spent here, in AI.
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Somewhat Heroic posted:McDonald Trump lmao Oh god that's perfect, I hope it sticks.
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Liquid Communism posted:Probably gonna skip the Supra, unless they've changed the interior dimensions a bit. They look real fun, and I like the body styling other than the roof tits, but I have yet to find a Toyota that's comfortable for my height. good news: its a bmw
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Darchangel posted:The Internet was a mistake. Tim Berners-Lee should be tried for his crimes against humanity.
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Darchangel posted:At the very least, it's a two-edged sword. Absolutely. I say all the time that it's a double-edged sword. On the up-side, you can find anything you want... On the down-side, you can find anything you want.
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Jan 15, 2019 18:25
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keykey posted:I miss the non-affordable internet where people that were using it were enthusiasts genuinely chatting to share knowledge. drat poors ruin everything.
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Finally spent some time looking at the new Supra and reading about it. People sure are mad, but I think it is pretty neat outside of the auto-only option. Manual would be cool, double clutch would be better. The price point seems quite reasonable given how so many other cars are shooting up into unobtainable price points. As a ~$50K car I can't say it is bad. The interior and seats look like a nice place to be.
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I just farted with my headphones in, in the middle of the engineering commons. Unsure whether it made a sound or if anyone noticed.
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Jan 15, 2019 20:51
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Good luck UK goons. Looks like it's gonna be full train wreck Brexit
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Jan 15, 2019 21:07
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keykey posted:Absolutely. I say all the time that it's a double-edged sword. On the up-side, you can find anything you want... On the down-side, you can find anything you want. Or don't want. Suburban Dad posted:drat poors ruin everything. Not so much that, I think, as a low cost of entry to a thing reduces the perceived value. You might have noticed the lack of quality in other forums that don't charge admission, unlike our own. Let's just go with "people who are uneducated, and may be poor largely due to lack of education but prefer to spread their uneducated views around rather than using the Internet to educate themselves"? Could just be stupid, too. Financial bearing and education don't seem to help that at all. Actually, I guess unwillingness or inability to learn *would* be stupidity, by definition.
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Adiabatic posted:I just farted with my headphones in odd way to stifle a fart
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Good luck UK goons. Looks like it's gonna be full train wreck Brexit What in the hell is happening in this world?
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It's super weird how all the people with the non-trashbag opinions on life, politics, and how to treat other people have no problem discussing those topics. And then there's a whole other side that, weirdly, finds it repellent to have to read mean words written about the things the party they support does.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Good luck UK goons. Looks like it's gonna be full train wreck Brexit Whelp, good luck with that  Hopefully it won't be as bad as the doomsayers are saying?
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Darchangel posted:What in the hell is happening in this world? Two preeminent countries vying for the title of "biggest fall in stature and status in history."
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Ether Frenzy posted:It's super weird how all the people with the non-trashbag opinions on life, politics, and how to treat other people have no problem discussing those topics. But I mean, both sides amirite
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First world problem: I ordered a new top-of-the-line Whirlpool range. It was delivered today, went to connect the cord and the neutral connector is broken off. Fortunately the connectors are on its own little removable module, took it to Lowes. They told me to go to an electrical supply house, or call the 800 number and request a new range. I asked them if they had a floor model. Until today, they literally never had a customer suggest pilfering parts off the floor model. Once it was suggested, they had no issues and helped me swap the parts. 5 minutes later, and a drive home, I'm back in business.
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Jan 15, 2019 21:40
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Back when I worked retail many, many years ago that was totally the norm with a big item. They'd just claim warranty with the manufacturer against that unit instead of yours. Glad to see a big box store still doing that instead of making you bring it back to return it or some god drat thing.
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Jan 15, 2019 21:46
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Modus Man posted:I am going to be building my own house, and I posted our home brewed floor plan in DIY. The more criticism the merrier. It will have nice garage at 30x40 plus room for storage. Gotta have that room for when I eventually buy a "fun" car. Threw in my .02 fwiw
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How is clickspring so great? I just watched a 20 minute video on various ideas for ancient layout fluids and enjoyed every second.
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Fender Anarchist posted:How is clickspring so great? I just watched a 20 minute video on various ideas for ancient layout fluids and enjoyed every second. You and me both. Blew my mind a bit when he did that video showing how small of a workspace he does all of this in.
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slidebite posted:Back when I worked retail many, many years ago that was totally the norm with a big item. They'd just claim warranty with the manufacturer against that unit instead of yours. Don't get me wrong - their first suggestion was to report it as DOA and have me wait on them to order another range. Which is crazy because it's literally on a module held in by two Phillips screws. I literally watched their mouths fall open when I suggested scavenging the display. A couple of beats later, they acted like it was the best idea ever and helped me. I've already shot the store manager a thank you email.
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slidebite posted:Whelp, good luck with that There is the glimmer of hope that the whole thing might be called off. You cling onto this sliver of salvation in much the same way as if you were a country with a terrible leader who was clinically obese and you learnt that he thought 'fine dining' was high chloresterol fast food.
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InitialDave posted:I'm not sure that's a bad thing, the BMW turbo 6s have a lot of tuning potential in them, I'm not sure Toyota have anything on hand that would be more appropriate for a new Supra. I guess one advantage is that there are far more Toyota dealerships than BMW. CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Good luck UK goons. Looks like it's gonna be full train wreck Brexit  Britannia
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Modus Man posted:I am going to be building my own house, and I posted our home brewed floor plan in DIY. The more criticism the merrier. It will have nice garage at 30x40 plus room for storage. Gotta have that room for when I eventually buy a "fun" car. Where I live at least a big rear end nice house with 8’ ceilings would get a lot of wtf type reactions. Here it’d be 9’ minimum and most places that large would have some 10’-12’ somewhere (great room, master, whatever). Single vanity in the master would also get weird looks. I like the layout. My house is exactly the same size but yours is better laid out. I like the defined entryway, mud room, and I think your kitchen/living/dining arrangement is way better than mine. One thing that I think I want in my next house is the stove top to be in the island just because cooking can frequently be a social activity so it’s nice to be facing the living area rather than staring at a wall, but maybe that’s just me. Is the basement going to be finished?
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Suburban Dad posted:drat poors ruin everything. Darchangel posted:Not so much that, I think, as a low cost of entry to a thing reduces the perceived value. Darchangel hit the nail on the head. When the internet first hit our area, it was 1994, at the time access was considered a "subscription" and not a "service" and certainly not anywhere near "human right" territory. I had just started going to our local JC and was working part-time, probably making somewhere around $500 a month and still living at home. Then a friend of mine told me about a world-wide sort of connected bbs system. We went down and plunked down $100 for a startup fee and $180 a month for 40 hours of internet access ($4.50/hr). Everything at that time was essentially measured/spared for when we got to use our online time and we didn't use it unless we either had hours to spare or really needed to. The startup was 1/2 my monthly take-home but completely worth it because of the amount of instantly available information. The next month I upgraded to a 28.8 modem which made things 2x faster so I could maximize my internet time/money/output. Then the price dropped in Jan 95 to $150, around the middle of the year it became unlimited hours and I thought, "OH MAN! THAT'S AWESOME!" Then the "everyday" person started getting on around 99 which was great because more people to share ideas with and learn from. Then the real everyday people started using it and it turned into what it is today. Times used to be simpler, man.
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meatpimp posted:Two preeminent countries vying for the title of "biggest fall in stature and status in history." An insane game of “hold my beer”. Shut up Meg posted:There is the glimmer of hope that the whole thing might be called off. I think I see what you did there, and we should be so lucky.
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If it makes anyone feel better, Theresa May's defeat this evening is historic in that it's the single biggest defeat in the past 100 years in Westminster. This following on from the government being found in contempt of parliament a mere month ago for not publishing full brexit legal advice. GRATE BRITAN
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Modus Man posted:I am going to be building my own house, and I posted our home brewed floor plan in DIY. The more criticism the merrier. It will have nice garage at 30x40 plus room for storage. Gotta have that room for when I eventually buy a "fun" car. Awesome, I love these threads. If I ever dig out from mortgage + med loans + daycare, I totally have poo poo I wanna build.
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keykey posted:Absolutely. I say all the time that it's a double-edged sword. On the up-side, you can find anything you want... On the down-side, you can find anything you want. I can put up with idiots in exchange for being able to find a video tutorial of drat near anything I would ever want to know how to do in ten minutes. I remember what it was like trying to learn obscure poo poo like armor making back in the 1990's, when you had to know somebody who knew how or find a library with a rare usually out of print for decades book that had the info.
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keykey posted:Darchangel hit the nail on the head. When the internet first hit our area, it was 1994, at the time access was considered a "subscription" and not a "service" and certainly not anywhere near "human right" territory. I had just started going to our local JC and was working part-time, probably making somewhere around $500 a month and still living at home. Then a friend of mine told me about a world-wide sort of connected bbs system. We went down and plunked down $100 for a startup fee and $180 a month for 40 hours of internet access ($4.50/hr). Everything at that time was essentially measured/spared for when we got to use our online time and we didn't use it unless we either had hours to spare or really needed to. The startup was 1/2 my monthly take-home but completely worth it because of the amount of instantly available information. The next month I upgraded to a 28.8 modem which made things 2x faster so I could maximize my internet time/money/output. Then the price dropped in Jan 95 to $150, around the middle of the year it became unlimited hours and I thought, "OH MAN! THAT'S AWESOME!" Then the "everyday" person started getting on around 99 which was great because more people to share ideas with and learn from. Then the real everyday people started using it and it turned into what it is today. Times used to be simpler, man. A current example is probably how the  entry to here means people value their accounts more than other places -ish
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bolind posted:You know that feeling when you're stretched so thin at work that even if there were three of you, you'd still have your hands full? And you're not even 33% efficient because of context switch overhead. Its the same with me- I finish up in my current role end of Jan and start in a new role, within a new department on the 4th of Feb. Its suddenly dawned on my management whats going to happen when I go- They loose their best plant operator, their mechanic, their plumber, their welder, their fabricator, their fabricobler.... None of my workmates have the same skills that I do, and they freely admit it. So they've lined my next few weeks up with this absolute parade of broken poo poo and utter clusterfucks to try and get everything fixed before I leave. Its not going to work. I spent a day and a half replacing a fuel tank in a skid steer loader- That was a job that was quoted at nearly $2K in labour alone.... Cant wait to see the end of this. I love the work that I do and the variety of it, I have some absolutely fantastic workmates who are practically family who im going to miss like hell, but I'm going to be so glad to see the back of the absolute sheer incompetence and infighting that my upper management is comprised of.
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Liquid Communism posted:I can put up with idiots in exchange for being able to find a video tutorial of drat near anything I would ever want to know how to do in ten minutes. I remember what it was like trying to learn obscure poo poo like armor making back in the 1990's, when you had to know somebody who knew how or find a library with a rare usually out of print for decades book that had the info. Oh, absolutely. So much poo poo you had to know the right people, or happen to find the right articles in magazines, or books, or ads for books in the right magazines. That said, I did kind of enjoy researching stuff in the Library - I'm kind of sad I don't go to the Library hardly at all any more - but I really dig watching all the DIYers on YouTube and write-ups elsewhere, and learning from their mistakes. I mean, I've been zinc electroplating bolts without having to give Caswell Plating $100 thanks to the Internet! Also learned about electrolytic rust removal. Kicks rear end. freelop posted:A current example is probably how the That's exactly what I was alluding to. isn't much, but it's just enough to be skin in the game. FWIW, I've definitely gotten at least $10 value out of this forum.
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Ferremit posted:Its the same with me- I finish up in my current role end of Jan and start in a new role, within a new department on the 4th of Feb. Its suddenly dawned on my management whats going to happen when I go- They loose their best plant operator, their mechanic, their plumber, their welder, their fabricator, their fabricobler.... None of my workmates have the same skills that I do, and they freely admit it. Don't you hate when you like/love a job, but management spoils it? Sorry that you had to nope out to make it better. Could've been worse - you could have become management!  (Not always the worst thing, though.)
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Darchangel posted:Don't you hate when you like/love a job, but management spoils it? Sorry that you had to nope out to make it better. Could've been worse - you could have become management! My management team just decided to change how on-call is handled, to the point that I'm going to be on-call once every 4 weeks. They haven't really considered that that equates to being unable to leave town or be more than 15 minutes from getting to my laptop for OVER ONE QUARTER OF THE YEAR. For a whole $2000 extra. Don't you hate it when you order some specialized parts from an online company that you really need to get your build done, at the cost of over a thousand bucks, and they don't bother providing anything resembling a delivery date? Just nothing at all other than an e-mail receipt?
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The Prong Song posted:My management team just decided to change how on-call is handled, to the point that I'm going to be on-call once every 4 weeks. They haven't really considered that that equates to being unable to leave town or be more than 15 minutes from getting to my laptop for OVER ONE QUARTER OF THE YEAR. For a whole $2000 extra. At least you're getting something for it. I worked for about a year and a half as a computer janitor at a call center (protip: never work for a company that runs call centers, in any capacity - they're universally terrible) that had a one week a month on call rotation. Didn't matter how much time you ended up working after hours or over the weekend - you never saw an extra dime and the concept of "flex time" (naturally this was a low-paid salary position) was entirely anathema to management. One weekend I ended up working from 1 AM Saturday morning until that evening, and then again on Sunday (pretty much worked all but about 8 hours of the weekend) because a program manager turned a few hundred call agents with zero training loose on a new program and offloaded support onto IT before turning her phone off and ignoring all emails. So the phone started ringing a half hour after they started taking calls, and never really stopped either day until 6 or 7 PM. Management was flummoxed when I took that Monday off because I hadn't had more than four hours of uninterrupted sleep in the past three days.
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Geoj posted:At least you're getting something for it. One of the defining factors of me never doing tech work in silicon valley past an internship is in CA, tech workers are salary exempt meaning companies are able to pay 60k a year and not a dime more including overtime. It's a super dick move that obviously has roots in SV lobbyists and for all intents and purpose means base to mid-level tech workers are always in the poverty category for the area. I honestly have no idea how/why people even consider working in that shithole, especially with the price of everything moving to levels of unobtainium.
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