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Ardennes posted:You honestly can't figure out the difference between the two statements? Would you care to state it?
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Why go to war with Iran instead of Saudi Arabia or Pakistan? The latter 2 have actually sponsored or aided and abetted terrorists who have attacked the US.
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svenkatesh posted:Why go to war with Iran instead of Saudi Arabia or Pakistan? And? Have you seen the current US administration's tapdancing over khashogg? Also pakistan has many a nuke
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svenkatesh posted:Why go to war with Iran instead of Saudi Arabia or Pakistan? Israel hates Iran Saudi Arabia buys US stuff (Iran would buy US stuff too, but you can only pick one side of the rivalry to be your jo session bro)
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fishmech posted:Would you care to state it? Saying that the US can take Tehran in a month is a very stupid thing to say. Also the topic has moved on. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Jan 16, 2019 |
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Jan 16, 2019 05:21
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Ardennes posted:Taking Tehran in a month would take a massive ground invasion the US is no where near capable of. He said be in Tehran in a month, which can be done. He also rightly pointed out that it would be a terrible idea, because of the fact just being there would mean nothing about the force being able to hold it much less the rest of the country. Same thing as your statement about being able to win an air war... that still leaes the situation with a whole shitload more to be done if the goal wasn't just "kill a bunch of people for no reason".
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fishmech posted:He said be in Tehran in a month, which can be done. He also rightly pointed out that it would be a terrible idea, because of the fact just being there would mean nothing about the force being able to hold it much less the rest of the country. You are making poo poo up Fishmech. He was replying to a post talking about a full ground invasion. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jan 16, 2019 |
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Um, but you see, if the US was allowed to, unopposed, build up combat power for months/years and perfectly posture itself, then it could simply roll into Tehran in a month. Checkmate, idiots! Alternately: Oh ho ho, no one said how many Americans would be there. I could totally sneak 4 terrified dudes into Tehran inside the month. Checkmate, again, idiots!
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Ardennes posted:You are making poo poo up Fishmech. He was replying to a post talking about a full ground invasion. That's not making poo poo up dude, that's just you randomly disagreeing with it. You can do it, it would also mean you were doing very stupid things at the same time to meet the timetable. See also: Hitler's insistence on pulling resources into trying to take Moscow specifically for nothing more than weird Nazi pride - even if it had worked and he'd had Moscow taken, Russia was already prepared for that and the Nazis would be in terrible positions across the rest of the front, dig?
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I can run a mile in 30 seconds. If you give me a 7 minute head start that doesn't count against the clock.  That's what people forget about all these dumbass claims about US military capabilities. The US can often smash the absolute dogshit out of other conventional armies these days, but it's easy to ignore the many months and/or years taken ahead of the actual combat, because shipping thousands of vehicles and tens of thousands of troops from CONUS or APS takes loving tiiiime.
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fishmech posted:That's not making poo poo up dude, that's just you randomly disagreeing with it. You can do it, it would also mean you were doing very stupid things at the same time to meet the timetable. I don’t think it would be possible even if they had guys sprinting there. Also that context would make the post even dumber. Also the context of the conversation would clearly a tradition ground invasion and US forces implied more than some special forces. I know what you want to do, it isn’t working. That said I think it is a bit heartwarming. (Also the reason armies don’t beeline for capitols especially when they are very far away is because it is extremely easy to get flanked and have supply lines cut.)
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jesus christ what is it with people and "ROLLING TANKS INTO THE CAPITAL" as a form of victory are you guys stuck in 1973? What do you think CARPET BOMBING FOR X MONTHS does to operational strength?
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fishmech posted:That's not making poo poo up dude, that's just you randomly disagreeing with it. You can do it, it would also mean you were doing very stupid things at the same time to meet the timetable. not Middle East related but this is a really terrible analogy cause what actually happened was the exact opposite of what you said. Forces were diverted from Army Group Center (Moscow front) to help with the encirclement of Kiev and then again to reduce the pockets of defenders encircled at Viazma and Briansk A Typical Goon fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Jan 16, 2019 |
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Middlebeast thread guide: block fishmech
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fishmech posted:He said be in Tehran in a month, which can be done. He also rightly pointed out that it would be a terrible idea, because of the fact just being there would mean nothing about the force being able to hold it much less the rest of the country. Same thing as your statement about being able to win an air war... that still leaes the situation with a whole shitload more to be done if the goal wasn't just "kill a bunch of people for no reason". The only american soldiers in tehran 1 month into an invasion are going to be on trial for war crimes
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LeoMarr posted:jesus christ what is it with people and "ROLLING TANKS INTO THE CAPITAL" as a form of victory To the Iranian nuclear program, which is ostensibly the casus belli, not anything close to enough to count as a win.
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Multiple US soldiers seem to have been caught in a blast claimed by ISIS in or near Manbij, with likely fatalities. In lighter news, this was a funny quote: https://twitter.com/antontroian/status/1085462777634934784 Update: https://twitter.com/ReutersWorld/status/1085540629843795969 That's as many losses as the US had in the last two years in Syria combined. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Jan 16, 2019 |
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Weird that the thread died as soon as there was news to disrupt the Iran circle jerk. https://twitter.com/weinbergersa/status/1085587804095217664
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That’s the news? Title 22 is no secret.
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mlmp08 posted:That’s the news? Title 22 is no secret. The news was Americans getting killed in Syria.
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Looks like Saudi Arabia's proxies are really trying hard to keep the US mired in Syria.
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RIP Vilerat https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1085610011534024704
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Sinteres posted:Weird that the thread died as soon as there was news to disrupt the Iran circle jerk. You'd have to be the stupidest person on earth to be surprised by this
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Wait, combat pilot training? What the Christ? Don’t tell me we’re taking over for the Saudis. 
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Lightning Knight posted:Wait, combat pilot training? What the Christ? Don’t tell me we’re taking over for the Saudis. What? How could you deduce that from this report. When US foreign military sales go through there is generally an enduring Title 22 training program associated. When this occurs during peacetime, very few people notice or care. When it occurs during wartime, even if the war wasnt on when the agreement is signed, fulfilling the FMS contract can be construed by cynics as training the recipient for that specific war instead of fulfilling FMS contract terms. So it makes sense for someone to say “US-supplied training indirectly enables combat ops in Yemen.” It also makes sense to say “This pre-programmed training has nothing to do with the war in Yemen.” It does not make sense to interpret this Title 22 training as “US is taking over the war in Yemen.”
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mlmp08 posted:What? How could you deduce that from this report. No you’re right. I read the headline as “US pilots were training in the UAE,” my bad.
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Lightning Knight posted:No you’re right. I read the headline as “US pilots were training in the UAE,” my bad. Well, US pilots do train and operate in UAE, but thats because of a rather major airbase that has existed for decades in Al Dhafra, not because of Yemen.
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Pretty surprising poll, I would have expected more Republicans to align with Trump on this: https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/425803-poll-most-americans-still-want-a-us-military-presence-in-syria
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I do not know if it was shared here but congratulations to Brown Moses for making the 2018 most influential list in FP. He is the main reason I joined this gay rear end forum.
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Thanks, I froze my rear end off for an outside photoshoot for it, then they used the only photo where I'm inside. If anyone wants to see the documentary about Bellingcat it'll have its US debut at SXSW this year, hopefully it'll end up sold to a streaming service after that. I'm also hiring a bunch of people for a big Yemen focused project we've be developing over the past year, so we'll be writing a lot more about that and helping lawyers, local journalists and activists investigate incidents, in particular looking for evidence of arms export violations and war crimes.
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Brown Moses posted:Thanks, I froze my rear end off for an outside photoshoot for it, then they used the only photo where I'm inside. If anyone wants to see the documentary about Bellingcat it'll have its US debut at SXSW this year, hopefully it'll end up sold to a streaming service after that. I'm also hiring a bunch of people for a big Yemen focused project we've be developing over the past year, so we'll be writing a lot more about that and helping lawyers, local journalists and activists investigate incidents, in particular looking for evidence of arms export violations and war crimes. Good, the attention payed to Yemen tends to be higher level geopolitical stuff. The nitty gritty on the ground is mysterious, and I'm sure extremely rough/shady.
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The Russians are already filling the void that the US are preparing to leave. In Afghan news: the Taliban went all highway of death on a government convoy. https://twitter.com/Zulmai_Afghan/status/1086301225992245252 
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Brown Moses posted:Thanks, I froze my rear end off for an outside photoshoot for it, then they used the only photo where I'm inside. If anyone wants to see the documentary about Bellingcat it'll have its US debut at SXSW this year, hopefully it'll end up sold to a streaming service after that. I'm also hiring a bunch of people for a big Yemen focused project we've be developing over the past year, so we'll be writing a lot more about that and helping lawyers, local journalists and activists investigate incidents, in particular looking for evidence of arms export violations and war crimes. imperialist shill and gay porn actor eliot higgins confirms intentions to fabricate war crime evidence against houthis
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GreyjoyBastard posted:imperialist shill and gay porn actor eliot higgins confirms intentions to fabricate war crime evidence against houthis Link your Mark Ames and Max Blumenthal quotes.
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Just saw a UAE born academic share an article by a Kuwaiti that kind of defends Rahaf. This is interesting. The article in question: http://elsada.net/99026/
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