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everybodys ignoring the dead girl porn thing huh (wtf lmao i need to hear this story)
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Tollymain posted:everybodys ignoring the dead girl porn thing huh (wtf lmao i need to hear this story) Dominic Deegan was that stupid Terraciano had in a publicly accessible file a folder of boudoir pictures of live girls posing as corpses in blood filled bathtubs plus he very obviously fetishized dead or dying women in his comic to the point you can wager he had one hand down his pants when working on those pages
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Tollymain posted:everybodys ignoring the dead girl porn thing huh (wtf lmao i need to hear this story) PMush Perfect posted:Multiple times, women are shown dead on-panel with lots of cleavage sticking out.
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Jan 16, 2019 22:58
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yeah, you know how someone mentioned all the dead girls with their tits out in the comic? dude has a fetish there's no story, dude just has a fetish and is real bad at keeping it secret e: or at hiding his photos of his porn which, again, was publically accessible and found by accident
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Jan 16, 2019 22:58
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He was friend with a burlesque troupe so he got some of the women to pose as sexy corpses in bathtubs full of fake blood, and he put the pictures in the same folder as those of his comic, and he hadn't secured the directory (no .htaccess restriction, not even an index.html to show a blank page) so people looking at the comics directory could find strange filenames like "tubdead.jpg" and yeah. Other than the necro fetish aspect, it was actually quite tame, no nipples or naughty parts shown. Eventually he heard about how people were looking at what was obviously supposed to be private, and the directory was protected properly.
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Jan 16, 2019 23:12
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...why would you ever store your porn on your website? Did he just host the whole thing at home, and keep his personal storage on the same site? Like, I don't know of any ordinary web-hosting-for-idiots that would let you just leave files lying around, so it seems almost like you'd have to do it on purpose.
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Jan 16, 2019 23:23
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why would you host your j/o images on your webcomic site
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Jan 16, 2019 23:24
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getting found out is also a fetish
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Rand Brittain posted:I don't know of any ordinary web-hosting-for-idiots that would let you just leave files lying around Keep in mind DD was started a long time ago, back when making a website was a matter of writing HTML by hand in notepad (or using Dreamweaver is you were lazy) and then uploading files with FTP.
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Tollymain posted:why would you host your j/o images on your webcomic site Tollymain posted:your j/o images Tollymain posted:your webcomic
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Jan 16, 2019 23:50
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this is the plot of Life Is Strange
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Mookie's fetish also came with a lot of hangups about women too. Real madonna/whore complex. Had multiple characters talk about how they dislike women wearing reveal stuff publicly or actively being sexual while fetishing nun outfits. Any woman with large breasts were either a villain or there for a "lower back problems" joke. The only woman who wasn't either a villain or mostly existed as a love interest for a man was the main character's mom who mostly existed as a deus ex machina to save him anytime he wrote Dominic into a corner. There's also a running trend in DD that extends to Star Power where villains are people who have had to struggle and actively put in effort to get to where they are, while the heroes have comfortable lives and are handed their powers through birth or being chosen by some entity. He also still lives in bad 80s movies mindsets when it comes to "jocks vs nerds." Ernest Cline's lovely "nerd porn auteur" rant/poem could have just as easily been written by Mookie. Evrart Claire fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Jan 17, 2019 |
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Jan 17, 2019 00:39
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Remember that time he got married in real life and by some weird coincidence the comic was also about a newly married couple with the bride's parents being extremely disapproving, but got owned by circumstances and completely saw the error of their ways and repented? No? Me neither.
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PMush Perfect posted:The great and terrible price that the hero's girlfriend has to pay near the end is being made sterile. Sterile, and yet, somehow supernaturally the most fertile egg donor in the history of all existence. This is on the back of Dominic losing a leg and then never really having any mobility problems. It's no "blind but with the superpower to see really well," but it's lovely writing all the same. Honestly I think Terraciano's art skill may have improved slightly just from being out of practice for his own, awful style. That was a big part of how surprisingly bad DD managed to be, it started as just high-school quality work, and then over the course of 13 years, the art never dared improve, and all his writing ideas just got worse. They went from misguided, poorly implemented ideas from somebody who doesn't know any better to even worse ideas that were somehow even more infantile from an aging man who had no excuse for not knowing any better. But all throughout, the whole thing had a whole dopey feel that made it more fun to make fun of.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Sterile, and yet, somehow supernaturally the most fertile egg donor in the history of all existence. Oh and the Dominic revealed he had actually always been sterile, just in case there was any shred of a possibility of drama.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Oh and the Dominic revealed he had actually always been sterile, just in case there was any shred of a possibility of drama. Which also served the purpose of stealing the spotlight from his wife's suffering
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Jan 17, 2019 15:16
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Now even the characters in QC are predicting when Deus Ex Machina will show up.
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^ What the hell is the point of this latest plot line? I thought maybe a character would be killed or something interesting like that, but no, she just has a new body and it fEeLs WeIrD and I'm getting the super uncomfortable vibe that he's going for a trans person analogy. JJ has leaned pretty hard into the "the androids are like LGBT people in real life!" angle before and it's kind of gross. Also what the gently caress is this.  If you told me my eyes would be tainted by awful new Mookie art yesterday I wouldn't have believed you. eta: Calaveron posted:Which also served the purpose of stealing the spotlight from his wife's suffering Also remember how she completely got over what very little emotion she had over her "great and terrible price" in, like, two comics? I don't even remember if she cried or was upset at all, it was just the big dragon saying "you will never bear children" and then the next thing was her going "yeah it hasn't hit me yet but whatever" and looking like she just smelled a nasty fart. Safari Disco Lion fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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Safari Disco Lion posted:^ What the hell is the point of this latest plot line? I thought maybe a character would be killed or something interesting like that, but no, she just has a new body and it fEeLs WeIrD and I'm getting the super uncomfortable vibe that he's going for a trans person analogy. JJ has leaned pretty hard into the "the androids are like LGBT people in real life!" angle before and it's kind of gross. The entirety of QC has been low-stakes people just coasting through their lives with very minor sci-fi elements, I don't know what's possessed you to think that'd change now. In comics I actually like, we find the origins of the videogame mob, Willa faces the dire consequences of friendship, Jo's bringing handsome Bob to her small business, and Tackleford's pea supply is about to be contaminated.
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SlothfulCobra posted:The entirety of QC has been low-stakes people just coasting through their lives with very minor sci-fi elements, I don't know what's possessed you to think that'd change now. Yeah, that's on me for expecting anything but the status quo. The only major things to ever happen in QC's entire run so far was, what, Faye's confession about her dad's death, Martin and Dora breaking up, and the Bubbles' memories plot line? Kinda feels like a Steven Moffat series. The whole time you get dripfed bits that something pretty big MIGHT happen but then nothing ever does.
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The status quo changes all the time, it's just that as soon as it does, Jeph gets bored and focuses on some new characters for a few months.
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So I'm poking around Tapas and Webtoons; are there any recommended comics from these places?
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IronSaber posted:So I'm poking around Tapas and Webtoons; are there any recommended comics from these places? I'm a fan of Elf and Warrior and Sword Interval.
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IronSaber posted:So I'm poking around Tapas and Webtoons; are there any recommended comics from these places? The Sword Interval is p. good, it's by the guy who did Derelict. Not quite as wild, creatively, but there are still lots of cool monster designs.
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Cool, I'll check those out. Thanks!
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Begemot posted:The Sword Interval is p. good, it's by the guy who did Derelict. Not quite as wild, creatively, but there are still lots of cool monster designs. I really, really miss Derelict. While I like Sword Interval, I kind of hope it's coming to a conclusion so he'll be encouraged to continue Derelict again. By the way, is anyone a fan of String Theory? It's right up there nearly with Kill Six Billion Demons for me, although it can't match Abaddon's update schedule.
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I really loved Derelict and it was just starting to really get going but I'm pretty sure he's never gonna pick it up again, after Sword Interval it'll probably be something else that, y'know, pays
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I don't quite get why Derelict couldn't pay if something like Sword Interval pays.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I don't quite get why Derelict couldn't pay if something like Sword Interval pays. Derelict was kind of hard to get into for people largely due to its minimalist style and heavy emphasis on subtly implying key elements of its worldbuilding rather than outright stating them. I remember there’s an entire chapter that’s told in anachronic order but it’s done in such a confusing and subtle way that a lot of people didn’t even realize it was cutting back and forth between the present and the recent past until it was almost over. It also kind of meandered from set piece to set piece more concerned with exploring the world it set up than telling a story in it, until very recently at least, and then it imploded. Like, don’t get me wrong, it was fantastic and beautiful, and I miss it like crazy and want it back, but I’m fully cognizant of its fatal flaws.
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The structure could be a little opaque at times, sure, but I don't believe we live in a world where "Magical bounty hunter of monsters" can make money but "Socially awkward apocalypse survivor on a boat" can't. Just my opinion though - either way, I'm super glad Ben is able to create a comic, ANY comic, that pays the bills.
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Derelict was atmospheric as hell and it was building up some beautiful lore, but I will say that it kinda lacked a real plot to follow. Dang Thu Mai was the main character, but we never really knew that much about her personally, and before it ended it was doing an extended interlude with some rando cityboy and a bizarre abomination. I'd have kept reading it if it continued, but it was missing a real killer hook. Kinda like when I was first following The Meek. Beautiful, but I was never really sure what was going on.
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It didn’t help either that it would present potential places where a real narrative could start and then sabotaged them by having Dang just ruin things like shooting Beautiful Flower and her human boyfriend when they were literally the only other speaking characters she’d encountered in about 100 pages. It is immensely hard to build a proper story around a character whose defining traits are extreme murderous paranoia and an awkward inability to properly communicate most of the time because she winds up killing most of her potential conversation partners and that is just death on the page.
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I agree with you that both comics were (are) a bit slow and aimless, but for me that was actually a selling point. I LOVE stories that take their time in establishing setting and characters without giving you the full picture - when done well it gets more way more invested than a story that presents everything up-front. I really liked Dang as a character BECAUSE we're only given these little tiny snippets. We don't need to be told how socially awkward she is - we can intuit it by how her longest (only?) conversations are not with people, but with corpses or giant sea monsters. And we aren't told outright what her sexuality is, but we can intuit it by the swimsuit posters she chose put up on her boat and her embarrassment about waiting the shower next to an attractive woman. But, sadly, that kind of storytelling really requires a lot of time and a slow burn to get right, and obviously that's tough to do and keep an audience in online comics, seeing as both comics are on hold while their creators are working on other (still very good!) comics to pay the bills. But I don't believe it's impossible. nine-gear crow posted:It didn’t help either that it would present potential places where a real narrative could start and then sabotaged them by having Dang just ruin things like shooting Beautiful Flower and her human boyfriend when they were literally the only other speaking characters she’d encountered in about 100 pages. It is immensely hard to build a proper story around a character whose defining traits are extreme murderous paranoia and an awkward inability to properly communicate most of the time because she winds up killing most of her potential conversation partners and that is just death on the page. See, you keep describing the reasons I love Derelict as the reasons it failed :P
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I don't quite get why Derelict couldn't pay if something like Sword Interval pays. Cause it started off as a non-paying personal project and it's a hard sell to get some publisher or whatever to buy the second half of a half-finished free thing you dropped years ago, and it's hard to get really re-engaged with your old half-finished creative work after you've set it aside to do other things for ages. At a certain point you just move on. There's a fair few webcomics people with really good unfinished early work from before they figured out how to make a living in the field (thinking here of Templar, AZ) and by the time they have the freedom to go back and revisit their old stuff it's just better all around to start fresh with something new and recycle the bits from your old work you really, really liked. Like, Sword Interval is already similar enough thematically to what was going on in Derelict that he's clearly adapting some of his pet ideas that would've showed up in Derelict if he'd continued with it. With any luck he'll get to keep on doing new stuff that's similarly engaging in the future, but it probably won't be about Dang again. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jan 24, 2019 |
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Oh god you reminded me of Templar, AZ. Why do I have such a love of unfinished webcomics  And yeah rationally I get everything you're saying. I'm just wishing and hoping it doesn't have to be that way.
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only the good (comics) die young
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Oh god you reminded me of Templar, AZ. Why do I have such a love of unfinished webcomics I keep telling myself I'll order the books one of these days.
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I wanted to read Templar, AZ but yeah that site hasn't been up for several years. Spike's published some great stuff and that's really what made me interested in her own work. I guess I could buy a book but like you said, it's been abandoned and I don't know if I want to jump into something I know isn't gonna be finished.
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The secret to enjoying Sword Interval isn't to think of it as a replacement of Derelict. Think of it as a revival of that author's first webcomic, which was also about a young lady with mysterious fiery powers that hunted monsters. Even has a returning character, even if that old golem changed a bit over the years.
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Bell_ posted:Templar, AZ has always been one of my favorites, but the site itself has been shown for at least a year. I do that by buying her current stuff that she publishes and sometimes writes. The erotic and horror anthologies Iron Circus puts out are top-notch.
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