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To continue the end game character talk: It's probably possible to make Goro more sympathetic with a more fleshed out background, but there's no redemption or should be no redemption for that character. I think there might be an issue with people liking the character so much they want a face turn.
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Harlock posted:To continue the end game character talk: People got used to what they did with P4's villain considering the extra developments they got in Golden and Ultimax.
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Do we know anything about what this new p5 thing they teased is because p5 is currently on sale but i dont want to buy it if theyre just gonna release a better version in a while.
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Jan 12, 2019 16:14
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Jan 12, 2019 16:18
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There’s already a non-evil cognitive Akechi who was part of the plot; just have him turn into a real boy due to the power of friendship. Problem solved.
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dangerdoom volvo posted:Do we know anything about what this new p5 thing they teased is because p5 is currently on sale but i dont want to buy it if theyre just gonna release a better version in a while. It's Persona 5 related and more information comes out in March. A rumor was that there would be a Switch port of the game but the teaser trailer opens up with a Playstation logo. There was a supposed Japanese leak saying Persona 5 Arena was delayed by a then yet unannounced Granblue Fantasy fighter and P5R was a complete version of Persona 5. https://personacentral.com/rumor-persona-5-arena-development-p5r-complete-edition-2019-super-smash-ultimate-leak/
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Regarding that end game character stuff, maybe the best case scenario for a rewrite would be to double down on how awful and irredeemable he is so that no one even wants a redemption story anymore. That’d be much better
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thanks alot assbag posted:Regarding that end game character stuff, maybe the best case scenario for a rewrite would be to double down on how awful and irredeemable he is so that no one even wants a redemption story anymore. That’d be much better They don't have to do much else but call out the fact that most of the sympathy seems to come from the fact that he is a pretty boy who has done countless horrific things.
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thanks alot assbag posted:Regarding that end game character stuff, maybe the best case scenario for a rewrite would be to double down on how awful and irredeemable he is so that no one even wants a redemption story anymore. That’d be much better I already think being a terrorist who plans and carries out the mass murder of innocent people is pretty awful and irredeemable, which people manage to portray as being "slightly misguided" because he's a pretty boy, so nothing they rewrote him into doing would change things
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Has anyone seen the anime adaptation of Persona 5? Did they change anything storywise? I've been mildly curious about giving it a shot, just to see how it turned out, but if there are any story improvements I think I'd be more eager to give it a watch.
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Shinjobi posted:Has anyone seen the anime adaptation of Persona 5? Did they change anything storywise? I've been mildly curious about giving it a shot, just to see how it turned out, but if there are any story improvements I think I'd be more eager to give it a watch. They make it very explicit that Akechi is definitely for real no takesies-backsies stone cold dead
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Got to Hawaii in my NG+ and it reminds me, the only one who doesn't look right to me in the cutscenes is actually Joker. His face is just off somehow.
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Super No Vacancy posted:what was the point of hawaii More burger stuff, relationship building (apparently you can potentially hang out with/quasi-date various characters? I only went out with the Shogi player who I later got in a relationship with).
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Yeah there's not much that couldn't have been accomplished otherwise but it's fun though I do understand if that's not enough justification in a game that's already 100+ hours.
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Look they'd already spent the money getting the cutscene where they arrive animated so the cast HAS to go to Hawaii dammit.
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It was holdover from early planning where the PTs would have bases all around the world, I think.
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Simpler answer, Persona 5 is anime incarnate, and every anime must have a beach episode although P5 has TWO so...
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ApplesandOranges posted:It was holdover from early planning where the PTs would have bases all around the world, I think. That would make the most sense to me. Digirat posted:I already think being a terrorist who plans and carries out the mass murder of innocent people is pretty awful and irredeemable, which people manage to portray as being "slightly misguided" because he's a pretty boy, so nothing they rewrote him into doing would change things I dunno, I think he had worse circumstances than "slightly misguided" even if it doesn't justify how terrible he is.
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I think the Hawaii thing was one of those sections where they had some plan they scrapped, but left it in there cause you need a class trip in your high school video game (even if this one stops really caring about the high school part after like the first month). Persona 4 had a ton of scenes like that but they were all fun and built the team friendship.
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Pash posted:I think the Hawaii thing was one of those sections where they had some plan they scrapped, but left it in there cause you need a class trip in your high school video game (even if this one stops really caring about the high school part after like the first month). Persona 4 had a ton of scenes like that but they were all fun and built the team friendship. Honestly I kind of wished P5 had more of those scenes, P5 felt like they teased them a lot (going out to a fancy buffet, not-disney world, etc) but turned it into a plot thing instead...which is fine but drat the phantom thieves feel a little too tightly wound sometimes.
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Pornographic Memory posted:Honestly I kind of wished P5 had more of those scenes, P5 felt like they teased them a lot (going out to a fancy buffet, not-disney world, etc) but turned it into a plot thing instead...which is fine but drat the phantom thieves feel a little too tightly wound sometimes. I hope they add more in P5R but I also really hope they fix some of the annoying quirks in the social link system that discourage you from pursuing some of the ones that are already in there. It's an annoying flaw in the social links system where the various special social link outings and events like going to the movies or visiting the park are objectively kinda bad from a gameplay perspective. Extra social link points don't carry over after an advancement (if I have 5 points but only need 3 to advance then those 2 points are lost and the time spent getting them was wasted) and the optimal way to play is by minimizing the number of non-advancement event social link time spent. So playing to fully explore all the optional social link stuff is contrary to playing to max social links. If they just allowed some point carry over between social link levels it would greatly lower how much you're encouraged to railroad yourself
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I wonder if it'd be better off without Affinity Reading giving you an incentive to skip those non-levelup hangouts where you take a companion to a spot on the map and have a little cutscene, often meeting a third person you weren't expecting. Those add some of what y'all are talking about but they're easy to miss if you're minmaxing on your first playthrough.
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Pornographic Memory posted:Honestly I kind of wished P5 had more of those scenes, P5 felt like they teased them a lot (going out to a fancy buffet, not-disney world, etc) but turned it into a plot thing instead...which is fine but drat the phantom thieves feel a little too tightly wound sometimes. I think part of it, at least for me, was Persona 5 was a lot more like Persona 3 in that your group felt more like a team, that was not necessarily particularly close to one another, just kinda thrust together by circumstances. There are a lot of things better about Persona 5 than the other games, but Persona 4 is still my favorite because of how the
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Pash posted:I think part of it, at least for me, was Persona 5 was a lot more like Persona 3 in that your group felt more like a team, that was not necessarily particularly close to one another, just kinda thrust together by circumstances. There are a lot of things better about Persona 5 than the other games, but Persona 4 is still my favorite because of how the In hindsight, it feels like not having the group all be in the same high school per usual was kind of a mistake.
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faaPash posted:I think part of it, at least for me, was Persona 5 was a lot more like Persona 3 in that your group felt more like a team, that was not necessarily particularly close to one another, just kinda thrust together by circumstances. There are a lot of things better about Persona 5 than the other games, but Persona 4 is still my favorite because of how the I definitely agree on the last part. Persona 2 Innocent Sin and Persona 4 do the friendship stuff so well and, unsurprisingly, they are my favorite Persona games. That's why this is, I think, the Persona 4 song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFTbH43n77Q That final part where you are going around and seeing everybody, knowing that soon the game will be over and you'll have to leave behind all these characters you've fallen in love with, was absolute perfection. "Snowflakes" embodies the bittersweet feeling of a game like Persona 4 which you love but which you know cannot last forever. P5 really tried to do it too but...well, I didn't care about anyone besides Haru so not quite as effective. Also, to talk about Innocent Sin again, this is the song for it too IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_XtIemqpS0 Like Snowflakes, it represents the most important idea in the game and that is "I have friends and I love them and they love me. Nothing else matters, even literally the end of the world."
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Was bored and jonesing for more P4 after completing it again so I watched the P4 anime. I didn't have terribly high expectations so I was surprised that it was really drat good! While it was more or less a retread of the game's plot, it added a lot of stuff that worked well, I thought. I also decided to use the English dub (Japanese voices sounded weird after playing the game) and it was also excellent. They completely nailed the main character and he was also the funniest part of the whole thing, kudos to the voice actor for nailing the deadpan, and I didn't even notice that they replaced Troy Baker as Kanji halfway through the thing. Went on to check out the Golden anime and it wasn't nearly as good, though the slight hints that it was a "new game plus" were kinda neat I guess.
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Stare-Out posted:Was bored and jonesing for more P4 after completing it again so I watched the P4 anime. I didn't have terribly high expectations so I was surprised that it was really drat good! While it was more or less a retread of the game's plot, it added a lot of stuff that worked well, I thought. I also decided to use the English dub (Japanese voices sounded weird after playing the game) and it was also excellent. They completely nailed the main character and he was also the funniest part of the whole thing, kudos to the voice actor for nailing the deadpan, and I didn't even notice that they replaced Troy Baker as Kanji halfway through the thing. I'm very sad the Golden anime wasn't dubbed. Terrible or not, I always like more Marie.
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Persona 4 anime is hilarious and it does a fantastic job with Narukami, the english dub rules. The p4g anime is dogshit made by hacks and it focuses on the two most boring characters.
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Pash posted:I think part of it, at least for me, was Persona 5 was a lot more like Persona 3 in that your group felt more like a team, that was not necessarily particularly close to one another, just kinda thrust together by circumstances. There are a lot of things better about Persona 5 than the other games, but Persona 4 is still my favorite because of how the I'm the exact opposite way. I really like how Persona 3 showed a group of - essentially - co-workers who grew into friendship and trust but overall weren't bffs. One of my favorite sequences in the game is the members each going off and working through their decision re:nyx on their own, and each finding their own reason to want to fight. I think that Persona 5 also struck a great balance of friendship vs independence. Persona 4 felt too... light I guess? The stakes didn't feel real.
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The Golden parts were the highlight of the Golden anime for sure, it's just too bad that you have to go through all the other stuff to get to it. And yeah, it desperately needed an English dub. Japanese Teddy is the worst.
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The best part about the P4 anime is how little fucks they gave and double Chie.
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Seriously, the summer vacation two-parter from both the group's and Narukami's perspectives respectively was so excellent. Addressing the "side" social links in that way was kinda brilliant and Narukami's "THAT'S PERFECT!" after spotting the fishing rod on Tanaka's shopping show got the biggest laugh out of me.
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I think Persona 5 overall has some better characters than Persona 4, the whole of the investigation team is still the best group.
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I think the episodes they just made up whole cloth for the P4 anime were generally pretty good-to-excellent, like the Mitsuo episode and the summer episodes, but I honestly couldn't stand what they did with the protagonist. I had always sorta played him as charming but kind of a weird dipshit, and read his joke answers not as attempts to gently caress with people but indications that just below his stoic surface was a lovably eccentric goofball (I did more-or-less the same thing in P5, because making the main character into a massive idiot weirdo instead of The Coolest Guy In The Universe is really fun and abates a lot of my issues with having a blank slate silent protagonist). In the anime they just turn him into a boring, too-cool-for-school troll who's constantly trying to screw with his friends, including joining in on Yosuke's homophobia. That's part of the reason I never actually finished it.
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