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Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

google already filters stuff out of searches like leaked celebrity nudes or legally troublesome websites like the pirate bay

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Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
They definitely don't do that second one.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

maybe they're behind on whatever the url is for it this month? i just remember having to take an extra step or two to find it last time i googled it

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Intel&Sebastian posted:

If being on SA versus being on the rest of the internet teaches you anything it should be that even lazy, lovely moderation by a severely outnumbered set of actual humans improves things drastically.

Awwww. :3:

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Brother Entropy posted:

maybe they're behind on whatever the url is for it this month? i just remember having to take an extra step or two to find it last time i googled it

I think it's the other way around, the top result links to an old server that's not very reliable, so you have to look at the next result to find out what a good current mirror is. Google has never been piracy-averse.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

420 Gank Mid posted:

"actually is is not at all google's fault they built a search algorithm that promotes nazi murder cults"

Google search is very good at turning off search recommendations the moment it detects any trace of horny. But hiding dangerous search recommendations and lowering the page rank of extremist propaganda... You are asking too much from the algorithm!

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



on one hand: idk how many posters remember pre-Google and how internet search used to rely on either lovely crawlers (literally Webcrawler) or human-curated lists made by employees of Yahoo and AltaVista. Google was incredible because it was a crawl search that sorted by the context of what you were likely looking for, not just a random list of all the crawled pages that match the text string, it did the whole thing automatically, and was the only engine capable of that for years. It's entire raison d'etre is to automate the process of finding useful things online, better and faster than a team of humans could do- it's difficult to appreciate how groundbreaking it was unless you remember the Web Ring days, and it's difficult to imagine human curation of that service being anything but a step back (that said I kinda miss the 'internet yellow pages')

on the other: Silicon Valley has a tremendous boner for automating all forms of labor, which would be very cool if we lived in a society that didn't require work to stay alive. Refusing to extend a livelihood to people in order to keep executive compensation high is, imo, wrong, especially with a case like Facebook where having more human, and less algorithmic, admins would improve the service for its userbase. So. Owing to disruptive automation ideology, I'm skeptical when a tech company throws its hands up and says "we cannot possibly hire a human to do anything here, thus is the limit of our imagination"

Scary!
Oct 22, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Cool so one of the new buyable outfits for your guy in Call of Duty's PUBG mode is a Nazi uniform. I'm sure that's not going to end up being like half the people in match soon.

https://twitter.com/GirlGlitcher/status/1075140445632634880

I want to roll up gamers into a giant Katamari

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Grondoth posted:

Spencer is exactly the kind of person you think he is. I'm glad he's most known for being punched.

it’s disappointing he’s allowed to go off the record. I don’t think lying to him and exposing how he insulted you would hurt your reputation as a reporter, lady. If anything’s hurting her reputation with me, it’s that she didn’t punch him. With a knife.

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

LordSaturn posted:

if you can't curate it, then I guess you don't get to loving own it, bougie scum

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Epic High Five posted:

Majority Report, Seder's podcast, is great

I can see why chuds would avoid debating him, dude knows his stuff and more importantly is literally hollaring about socialism and how capitalism is a failure like 50+ hours a week between all his stuff so he's extremely experienced at tearing apart any of the dumbass talking points they just regurgitate

relatedly im still mad ben shapiro wimped out of debating matt bruenig

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Hellsau posted:

Is this the thread to talk about how much of a stupid piece of poo poo David Brooks is, or can someone link me to the appropriate thread? Because David Brooks is a terrible fuckin' person.

probably the failing nyt thread, Nebuchadnezzar gazes into the abyss pretty frequently there

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

https://twitter.com/g0m/status/1080147139349622785

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
im Frank Racism

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Norton the First posted:

Disagree. Practically everything I know about everything comes from Google searches. If they're going to deliberately hide things, they need to be forthright about exactly what they're hiding and why. I would much rather an AI pop up some words it doesn't understand than Google, a firm with no qualms about working with repressive governments, set up teams to work behind the curtains to decide what people should be allowed to find.


I don't think you understand Google's scale, at all. A Google representative recently had to explain this in Congress to Steve King when he was complaining about how negative searches are linked to Republicans, it's worth a watch.
If you're right why do they filter results for Al Qaeda recruitment? There is zero difference between these two situations besides the skin color of the terrorists.

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Terrible Opinions posted:

If you're right why do they filter results for Al Qaeda recruitment? There is zero difference between these two situations besides the skin color of the terrorists.

I don't care about that either. If the mindless Google AI thinks the next thing I'm going to ask is "how can I join ISIS" and helpfully provides me with the search already formed, I appreciate the convenience. As would anyone.

I guess Atomwaffen has enough of a body count at this point that somebody at Google needs to be reminded to put them on whatever internal black list they use. But I'm wary of this process. Google is not a good actor and won't hesitate to start treating antifascists the same as fascists if the powers that be nudge them hard enough. I'd much rather just keep letting kids be randomly radicalized when Google autocompletes to "how to join real IRA."

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Terrible Opinions posted:

If you're right why do they filter results for Al Qaeda recruitment? There is zero difference between these two situations besides the skin color of the terrorists.

the difference is that one group is the avowed enemy of the US government, and the other group is implicitly the ally of the US government

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Norton the First posted:

I don't care about that either. If the mindless Google AI thinks the next thing I'm going to ask is "how can I join ISIS" and helpfully provides me with the search already formed, I appreciate the convenience. As would anyone.

idk buddy I wouldn't really appreciate the assumption that I wanna join ISIS when I'm looking for like a bowling league or DSA meeting so uh pls don't speak for everyone here

quote:

Google is not a good actor and won't hesitate to start treating antifascists the same as fascists if the powers that be nudge them hard enough.

Then why does it matter? It sounds like the slope's already been slid down


actually it'd be really cool if tech companies treated antifascists the same as fascists because then there'd be a lot more left-radicalizing content out there

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Peanut Butler posted:

actually it'd be really cool if tech companies treated antifascists the same as fascists because then there'd be a lot more left-radicalizing content out there

Reddit has had /r/FULLCOMMUNISM quarantined for a while now and they link you to some laughably bs super anti red propaganda :)

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
That you've built your business on offloading as much of the work as possible to algorithms does not excuse you from culpability for building something that helps Nazis organize and kill. If you can't not help Nazis, you need to have your product confiscated and given to somebody who is willing to not help Nazis murder people.

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
I feel like people may be exaggerating the threat posed by this particular autocomplete. Just a little.

CheeseSpawn
Sep 15, 2004
Doctor Rope
This Jesse Lee Peterson "debate" with Destiny is AMAZIN. I'm impressed Destiny wasnt abrasive compared to David Pakman's previous bouts. I would hate to give JLP's video link but it's here.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Google already has full editorial control over autocomplete. They've blocked autocomplete for the work "Kodi" due to piracy concerns. It's a heavily moderated part of search.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Sir Tonk posted:

im Frank Racism

excellent potential username IMO

Bullfrog
Nov 5, 2012

Not sure if this got posted but the point of Loomer's weird Pelosi stunt was to try and get the three random undocumented men she tricked into coming with her deported

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1085260355624943616

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1085747834807296001

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG



New goon project: Olde Black Panther Party server takeover in Red Dead Online

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Bullfrog posted:

Not sure if this got posted but the point of Loomer's weird Pelosi stunt was to try and get the three random undocumented men she tricked into coming with her deported

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1085260355624943616

An idiot AND trash person

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 204 days!

Epic High Five posted:

any discussion involving Third Way is a fine opportunity to recommend everybody read The Third Way Safari which will tell you everything you need to know about their worldview

I liked the part where they walked away with the lesson that neoliberalism is cool and good, Americans are united by their work ethic, and only the one group of nearly dead dudes that hated big government needed to have its opinions reflected in their conclusions.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 204 days!

Well What Now posted:

excellent potential username IMO

catholibertarian-economist

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Norton the First posted:

a fascist is just gonna type in "how to join atomwaffen" to Bing.

then atomwaffen would never get another new recruit

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Bilirubin posted:

New goon project: Olde Black Panther Party server takeover in Red Dead Online

Django Fete clan

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


Bilirubin posted:

New goon project: Olde Black Panther Party server takeover in Red Dead Online

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
This wonderful tweet made the rounds earlier.
https://twitter.com/JLPtalk/status/1085332330254721024

His Medium account has been suspended, but don't worry, you can still read the piece through this archived copy over on World Net Daily. This guy is really fun. Another WND article of his, The Real Enemies of The People is worth posting here for :magical: purposes if nothing else:

quote:

The media and liberals manipulate language to seduce blind people. They support illegal aliens, calling them “undocumented immigrants.” They welcome third-world Democrat-leaning Muslims as “refugees.” But they call the murder of white South African natives “fake news.” They support radical homosexuals pushing so-called “marriage equality” or “LGBTQ rights” (both phony, deceptive, destructive ideas). They paint pro-abortion radicals as “pro-choice” for “reproductive rights,” and downplay the ongoing holocaust of unborn children. But they call pro-lifers “anti-abortion rights” (as though being against killing babies in the womb is negative or oppressive).

They call whites “neo-Nazis,” men “rapists,” and non-leftists “far-right.” To them, a non-liberal who defends himself is “violent” and anyone who tells the truth is a “bigot.”

They’re no longer journalists, but activists – joining forces with the Democrats against America – truly the enemy of the people, as Trump said.

The mainstream media still cite the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as a credible source. The SPLC is a far-left “nonprofit” organization pretending to track “hate” – primarily attacking outspoken whites and Christians. They inspired a terror attack on Family Research Council by putting them on their “hate map” for being “anti-gay.”

The SPLC recently labeled Proud Boys as a “hate group.” Proud Boys are a fraternity headed by talk show host Gavin McInnes, founded to promote pride in Western Civilization. Proud Boys typically show up to protect Trump supporters and free speech advocates at rallies. The media call the Proud Boys “violent” for getting into fights with Antifa’s “masked protestors.” The left don’t care that Antifa vandalizes property and attack people at events – including law enforcement and anyone with a camera.

It goes on and on and on, dogwhistle/foghorn after dogwhistle/foghorn.

This guy is black, and he's preaching white supremacist talking points from his literal pulpit, almost exclusively to an audience of white boomers. This isn't even a grift, he's just loving broken. Wikipedia suggests he's had a terminal case of the brain worms since at least the mid 2000s.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
muslim with hijab

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde

CheeseSpawn posted:

This Jesse Lee Peterson "debate" with Destiny is AMAZIN. I'm impressed Destiny wasnt abrasive compared to David Pakman's previous bouts. I would hate to give JLP's video link but it's here.

McGlockenshire posted:

This wonderful tweet made the rounds earlier.
https://twitter.com/JLPtalk/status/1085332330254721024

This guy is black, and he's preaching white supremacist talking points from his literal pulpit, almost exclusively to an audience of white boomers. This isn't even a grift, he's just loving broken. Wikipedia suggests he's had a terminal case of the brain worms since at least the mid 2000s.

two memtions of JLP on one page? amasin!

he “debated” destiny today which some could consider elder abuse on destinys part :D

he is insane and doesnt believe white supremacy exists

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


LESBIAN

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003




yeah it's pretty clear from the whole thing but the microcosmic tell is prolly

quote:

white South African natives 

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde

Peanut Butler posted:

yeah it's pretty clear from the whole thing but the microcosmic tell is prolly

lmao

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Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.
drat that JLP dude is nuts.

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