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I'd compare The Shield more to Breaking Bad, in that they're about gritty subjects but in the end they're still shows where entertainment is the #1 priority and the storylines reflect that. Watching The Shield in a marathon is probably the best way to experience it, because almost everything that happens in the show's final season(one of the best final seasons ever) is directly connected to the poo poo that the strike team did in the first few seasons. The entire series is the team digging an ever deeper hole for itself and that final season it all finally comes home to roost.
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The Shield has been on my short list for a while, and I trust that it's good, but every time I watch clips of it, it just looks so hokey.
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veni veni veni posted:The Shield has been on my short list for a while, and I trust that it's good, but every time I watch clips of it, it just looks so hokey. That's why I don't think any comparisons to The Wire are appropriate. It's much closer to 24 than it is to The Wire. It's an over the top show but I dunno, in the years since it aired I've seen plenty of ridiculous poo poo the cops have been up to that makes The Shield not seem all that far-fetched.
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Basebf555 posted:I'd compare The Shield more to Breaking Bad, in that they're about gritty subjects but in the end they're still shows where entertainment is the #1 priority and the storylines reflect that. The sheer level of attention to detail in the progression of the series was really astounding and I can’t think of any TV show that was more capable of balancing that much stuff and delivering satisfying payoff to all sorts of plot lines and little moments. I can’t really think of any times they just pulled something from their rear end because they wrote themselves into a corner.
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veni veni veni posted:The Shield has been on my short list for a while, and I trust that it's good, but every time I watch clips of it, it just looks so hokey.
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veni veni veni posted:The Shield has been on my short list for a while, and I trust that it's good, but every time I watch clips of it, it just looks so hokey. It's the ultimate divorced dad show, the whole thing is like peeling out in a Dodge Charger.
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Having now watched both, I gotta give the edge to the Hulu Fyre documentary. It pulls way less punches. You can tell the Netflix one was made by people who have an interest in putting the best spin on it they can. Hulu one makes it clear that the dude was a straight up criminal and con man. Netflix one skews too often toward "he just flew too close to the sun" and "but seriously look how good of an idea these things were"
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precision posted:Having now watched both, I gotta give the edge to the Hulu Fyre documentary. It pulls way less punches. You can tell the Netflix one was made by people who have an interest in putting the best spin on it they can. Hulu one makes it clear that the dude was a straight up criminal and con man. Netflix one skews too often toward "he just flew too close to the sun" and "but seriously look how good of an idea these things were" Didn't the Hulu documentary pay the organizer of the festival a six-figure sum to consent to their interview? I'm thinking you should probably just avoid them both.
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precision posted:Having now watched both, I gotta give the edge to the Hulu Fyre documentary. It pulls way less punches. You can tell the Netflix one was made by people who have an interest in putting the best spin on it they can. Hulu one makes it clear that the dude was a straight up criminal and con man. Netflix one skews too often toward "he just flew too close to the sun" and "but seriously look how good of an idea these things were" The Netflix one does have some people who come down hard on it. The man bun dude is very clear on him being a crook.
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Sarchasm posted:Didn't the Hulu documentary pay the organizer of the festival a six-figure sum to consent to their interview? No idea how much they paid him, but the Netflix one has spin. "In 48 hours they had sold 95% of their tickets" is, at least from the information in the Hulu one, very inaccurate. The Netflix one also kinda makes the Magnesis Card sound like it was cool but flawed, whereas the Hulu one shows you what kind of hilarious losers actually fell for it, etc The Hulu one just generally has way more info, the Netflix one is slicker. I wouldn't say to avoid either of them though, even compromised documentaries can be interesting and the footage is lolworthy
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I think paying the guy a few hundred thousand was probably worth it because his interview adds a ton to the documentary in terms of exposing him as the con man he was/still is. The dude has probably already blown that money on bullshit anyway and is onto whatever the next grift is.
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Basebf555 posted:I think paying the guy a few hundred thousand was probably worth it because his interview adds a ton to the documentary in terms of exposing him as the con man he was/still is. The dude has probably already blown that money on bullshit anyway and is onto whatever the next grift is. I believe you mean blown the money at the canteen and the next grift is getting two prison gangs to protect him because he's in jail for 6 years.
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Very much enjoying the Netflix Fyre documentary. Hoping the Hulu version is somewhere a non-Merican like myself can see it
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Basebf555 posted:I think paying the guy a few hundred thousand was probably worth it because his interview adds a ton to the documentary in terms of exposing him as the con man he was/still is. The dude has probably already blown that money on bullshit anyway and is onto whatever the next grift is. Yeah his interview segments were hilarious. One wonders how such a bad liar managed to con so many people Also, Ja Rule comes off as a turbo douche
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it's insane to me that there is a man with a multi-year prison sentence for putting on a lovely music festival e: it is Illegal to put on Bad Music Festivals, unless your Name is Ja Rule and then you just sort of get to keep doing Whatever the gently caress
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The Hulu one is definitely the better doc, but the Netflix one is still worth watching because of a couple amazing anecdotes
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precision posted:One wonders how such a bad liar managed to con so many people “Influencers” and other bougie trust fund babies are universally dumb as poo poo 
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:it's insane to me that there is a man with a multi-year prison sentence for putting on a lovely music festival I mean, Fyre went beyond “lovely music festival” and was more “tricking people into buying tickets to be flown to Hell Island”
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I mean, Fyre went beyond “lovely music festival” and was more “tricking people into buying tickets to be flown to Hell Island”  i feel like most of the garbage-rear end fests I've seen are pretty much along those lines, and the only difference with Fyre is that ultra-rich kids and "Instagram influencers" got hosed over by it and Ja Rule was involved. nobody got fuckin' arrested for Free Press Summerfest here in Houston and that festival went straight to absolute horrible poo poo after 2012.e: or for a famous and probably more directly comparable example, who exactly got arrested for loving Woodstock 99? anyone at all?
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He got jail time for wire fraud Watch the Hulu one, the dude did a lot more than just "put on a lovely music festival". A lot of Jamaican workers straight up never got paid too
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Not to interrupt Fyre talk but Jason X is on Netflix and it owns
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Frog Act posted:Not to interrupt Fyre talk but Jason X is on Netflix and it owns Oh hell yeah!
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precision posted:He got jail time for wire fraud oh, okay, that makes a lot more sense 
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Amazon Prime's putting up a shitload of 1920s-50s era Westerns next month. As well as the Jordan Peele produced docuseries about Lorena Bobbit. https://news.avclub.com/heres-whats-coming-to-amazon-prime-in-february-1831879544
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Frog Act posted:Not to interrupt Fyre talk but Jason X is on Netflix and it owns Hell yeah it does
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Punisher s2 is up
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Is Io any good? I just saw a trailer for it on netflix and it looked really interesting.
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redreader posted:Is Io any good? I just saw a trailer for it on netflix and it looked really interesting. I just finished the first episode, it's breathtaking
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I would recommend people watch both Fyre documentaries just to get a more complete picture, but now that I've watched both I gotta say FYRE is hands down the better film. And it's not like its a masterpiece. It's a slick 3.5/5 from a guy who has made several excellent docs already, and it flows. FYRE FRAUD is like a long youtube essay that diverts into too much half-baked takes about millenials and influencer culture. It's not very well crafted. All the splices into Chappelle or Simpsons or Parks and Rec are strained when the Fyre footage and BS of the scam should be front and centre.
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I’ve only seen Fyre so far but I have to say there’s something mildly cathartic about all these trust fund dickheads getting there and seeing that it’s just a soggy shantytown.
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redreader posted:Is Io any good? I just saw a trailer for it on netflix and it looked really interesting. I'll probably watch it later. I'm a loving sucker for post-apoc movies.
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Filthy Hans posted:I just finished the first episode, it's breathtaking I thought it was a movie?? Lycus posted:I'll probably watch it later. I'm a loving sucker for post-apoc movies. Yeah same, even if it's bad probably. I loved The Rain
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I only liked the first episode of The Rain, but I'll give all post-apoc a shot.
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redreader posted:I thought it was a movie?? nope, it's a season
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Did you quote the wrong post? It's a movie.
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BisterdDave posted:Oh hell yeah! precision posted:Hell yeah it does I had only ever seen the one part where he punches a ladies head off, many years ago in passing while on a lot of drugs, so I knew it would be great but I honestly had no idea just how awesome it would be. the last scene is hilarious, and the part where he beats the two holographic campers to death with no gore at all by swinging them around in sleeping bags was a hilarious send-up of the genre. it needs a direct sequel that picks up at the end and is just "uber Jason" beating people to death in a super futuristic yr 2249 or whatever society
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Erebus posted:fuckin what
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