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| Up North |
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70 | 41.92% |
| New York |
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21 | 12.57% |
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12 | 7.19% |
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18 | 10.78% |
| The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel |
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46 | 27.54% |
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Not saying Benoit is objectively worse, just saying he’s a mortal lock to win in this format.
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Jan 19, 2019 04:50
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Vince has enabled, caused or looked the other way for a lot of these other monsters - on top of his own horribleness.
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Jan 19, 2019 05:05
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Yeah, I'm not really sure how I don't vote Vince every time. Almost every sin of everyone else was condoned, enabled, covered up, encouraged, or overlooked by Vince along with a laundry list of his own sins.
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Jan 19, 2019 05:09
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its vince
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Jan 19, 2019 05:19
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It probably is Vince though Moolah and Mel Philips probably can put in a good fight!
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Jan 19, 2019 05:55
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It's gotta be Vince. There are a lot of very lovely people, but he's not only very lovely himself, but enabled many of them and created the conditions and culture that led to them being such horrible monsters. He's had the power to change things countless times for the better and never does. If WWE was any other company in the world, his head would roll for dozens of the entries on the NY64.
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Jan 19, 2019 06:36
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MassRafTer posted:Nominations for the NY64 WW are open. Please read the list of current entrants before nominating! What are the qualifications? I mean guys like Vader and Cornette can be assholes and hard to work with, but they don't deserve to keep company with rapists, murderers, child molesters, and they certainly weren't pure assholes on the level of HBK or HHH. Anyway, some glaring omissions from that list "Grizzly" Aurelian Smith (was employed as an Agent for WWF during the 80's, so fits the timeline)--Raped and impregnated his daughter-in-law and then raped and abused the children she had with him. "Rock n' Roll" Buck Zumhofe--Raped his daughter for a period of over 12 years Mae Young--While not as guilty of the crimes of Moolah, she aided and abetted her as an "enforcer" Jacques Rougeau--Guilty of sexually harassing and fondling female trainees at his school Ed Ferrara--Responsible for many of the most tasteless, misogynistic, and reviled segments of the Attitude Era such as Beaver Cleavage and Terri Runnels' miscarriage Davey Boy Smith--Notorious bully when teamed with Dynamite Kid...later cooled off but became a crackhead who anally raped his wife Jim Neidhart--Same as above, except he never cooled off and actually got worse Rick Steiner--Bully and notorious shithead...albeit most of his worst offenses were in late WCW so that falls outside of the WWF scope
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Jan 19, 2019 06:52
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I'd nominate Kurt Angle but yeah almost his entire rough period took place in TNA. Although I guess I also don't super care about drug stuff. E: Marty Jannety's extremely skeezy, but I don't feel like some of the worst parts are my story to break, and it also happened post WWE Rick fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Jan 19, 2019 |
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Jan 19, 2019 06:58
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Ludvig Borga
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Jan 19, 2019 07:52
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Rhonda Rousey probably deserves a look even if her Sandy Hook and transphobia has been outside of the company (So yeah WWE being her dream job makes 100% sense)
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Jan 19, 2019 08:18
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I'm curious about Sean O'Haire, Scott Steiner (though I know that he was a massive bully even back then), Vader (was he the same?), and Max Landis (John's son?). The rest, I think I know why they might be nominated. What a bunch.
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Jan 19, 2019 12:28
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Baron Corbin posted:Ludvig Borga Second this. Had an SS tattoo and would go on to be a far right politician. Edit: Max Landis has been accused of sexual assault by a ton of people. If you're asking about his WWE involvement, he used to be a creative consultant. ThePariah fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Jan 19, 2019 |
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Jan 19, 2019 13:54
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Bob Holly needs to be on the list for his treatment of rookies and jobbers and I can't believe Stephanie's not been nominated yet. Oh and Edge for the whole Lita thing.
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Jan 19, 2019 14:05
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Rarity posted:Bob Holly needs to be on the list for his treatment of rookies and jobbers and I can't believe Stephanie's not been nominated yet. Oh and Edge for the whole Lita thing. Infidelity is certainly uncool, but I dunno that consenting adults having an affair can even sniff the top 64 when you look at what else was going on around them.
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Jan 19, 2019 14:23
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Hedgehog Pie posted:A tournament to decide who the worst person in ALL OF WRESTLING is might be fun, though I'm fairly confident that Saville would win if he even counts. Halloween Jack posted:Like, I have a sort of pet project on the mortality of wrestlers, and while I failed to set firm criteria for inclusion when I started, I discount people who wrestled a small number of matches for a small promotion. This is why I feel Saville shouldn't be included.
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Jan 19, 2019 14:59
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TFF runs a similar tournament to find the biggest douche in football each year. Anyway, after Paterno I think they started having a separate hall of fame category. Anyway, I think maybe we should just give Mel Phillips a lifetime achievement award...
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Jan 19, 2019 15:48
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ThePariah posted:Edit: Max Landis has been accused of sexual assault by a ton of people. If you're asking about his WWE involvement, he used to be a creative consultant. I didn't even know he was a thing until I looked him up. Did he actually have anything else to him other than his famous dad (who has a really controversial legacy himself)?
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Jan 19, 2019 16:38
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Lovely stuff
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Jan 19, 2019 17:04
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Shiki Dan posted:What are the qualifications? Grizzly Smith and Buck weren't on the list because I didn't think either fit the 1 year qualification. I'm checking both this weekend since they obviously fit. Mae has been added, had actually never heard that about Jacques, forgot about Ed. Davey will be added, I haven't heard details on Jim other than his later life misadventures but I have no problem adding them. Rick will be added to. For the Scott Steiner question basically he has assaulted a bunch of people and menaced Hulk Hogan's girlfriend during Mania weekend. Max Landis has been accused of sexual assault. Legit can't believe I forgot Ludvig Borga.
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Jan 19, 2019 17:21
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I didn't even know he was a thing until I looked him up. Did he actually have anything else to him other than his famous dad (who has a really controversial legacy himself)? Arguably no, but the reason he got WWE's attention is because of a youtube video/short film called "Wrestling Isn't Westling" which attempted to explain the appeal of wrestling while simultaneously recapping Triple H's career. It got some buzz in wrestling circles and WWE took enough notice to give him the creative consultant gig, but apparently they never used any of his ideas. Other than that, he's better known for his social media activity than anything he's written. He's posted some fantasy booking ideas on twitter or reddit, usually nothing special but some people went nuts for it because he's a "famous writer." He did write recent netflix movie Bright, which was critically panned but got a ton of viewers, though I think the credit goes to it starring Will Smith.
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Jan 19, 2019 17:24
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ThePariah posted:Arguably no, but the reason he got WWE's attention is because of a youtube video/short film called "Wrestling Isn't Westling" which attempted to explain the appeal of wrestling while simultaneously recapping Triple H's career. It got some buzz in wrestling circles and WWE took enough notice to give him the creative consultant gig, but apparently they never used any of his ideas. He also wrote American Ultra. Which I kinda liked.
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Jan 19, 2019 17:29
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I never saw it, but I do remember him throwing a temper tantrum when Red Letter Media panned it, which lead to him appearing on one of their videos.
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Jan 19, 2019 17:31
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Has Sunny been nominated yet? For the racism?
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Jan 19, 2019 17:40
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Does Low Ki/Kaval fit the one year criteria, because while taking liberties in the ring is less vile when compared to your Warriors and Mel Phillipses, it merits inclusion
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Jan 19, 2019 17:50
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Wasn't Dino Bravo killed by the Canadian Mafia for selling illegal cigarettes or something? Compared to most people on this list that seems like it hardly qualifies.
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Jan 19, 2019 17:56
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I Before E posted:Does Low Ki/Kaval fit the one year criteria, because while taking liberties in the ring is less vile when compared to your Warriors and Mel Phillipses, it merits inclusion True, he and Asuka should be included.
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Jan 19, 2019 17:59
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Infamous nazis, The Harris brothers were in the WWF as the Blu Twins and as Skull and 8-Ball in the DOA. (also lol their wikipedia page doesn't talk about their racism).
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Jan 19, 2019 18:00
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Kane should be nominated
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Jan 19, 2019 18:09
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i’ve heard tell that the author of this thread/twitter account used to have a rape joke for a username
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Jan 19, 2019 18:27
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Thanks for the info everyone, all horrific but horrifically interesting. What's the deal with Sean O'Haire?
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Jan 19, 2019 18:28
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Has Kane actually done anything other than 'have lovely political opinions'?
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Jan 19, 2019 18:29
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Hedgehog Pie posted:Thanks for the info everyone, all horrific but horrifically interesting. He got popped for assaulting women a few times. He later killed himself.
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Jan 19, 2019 18:31
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Zumhofe was a jobber for the WWF on and off for a few years in the 90's so I think he would qualify. Guess whose WWF debut was against Zumhofe! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqZe9mEpSFg
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Jan 19, 2019 18:42
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You forgot Terry Taylor but most of his really bad stuff happened in WCW
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Jan 19, 2019 18:47
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It’s disgusting that so many of you bought into the myth that Benoit did it
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Jan 19, 2019 18:50
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NienNunb posted:It’s disgusting that so many of you bought into the myth that Benoit did it Agreed. Kevin Sullivan should be on here, though.
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Jan 19, 2019 19:26
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MassRafTer posted:True, he and Asuka should be included. IMO, Asuka is less her and more Japan's cultural obsession with Nazis, rear end backwards as it may be. I guess what I'm getting at is does the context of Japan's Blaise attitude to Nazi imagery factor in and weigh this down? If we're insistent on this then you need to add Zahra Schreiber and everyone other racist that ever worked for the company and that's a long loving list.
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Jan 19, 2019 19:27
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Akileese posted:IMO, Asuka is less her and more Japan's cultural obsession with Nazis, rear end backwards as it may be. I assume he was talking more about Asuka's reputation for being stiff given I had asked about Low Ki
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Jan 19, 2019 19:29
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I Before E posted:I assume he was talking more about Asuka's reputation for being stiff given I had asked about Low Ki Yes, I am talking about kicking someone unprotected in the face full force and giving them a concussion.
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Jan 19, 2019 19:30
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I Before E posted:I assume he was talking more about Asuka's reputation for being stiff given I had asked about Low Ki Ah yeah maybe. My bad. Are we really adding people for being stiff when we already have Bob Holly? Like, the guy is a benchmark for hurting people deliberately in the ring. That seems....I don't know. If we're already at that point maybe we do 32 instead of 64?
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