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Plek
Jul 30, 2009
How do you even get a 78 month loan for a used car? What bank was like 'yeah this is legit?' My condolences on the forever debt.

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

The sad thing with a loan like that it's probably at some insane, credit card like interest rate too.

One of my pastimes of looking at awful financial decisions is going through a lease-takeover website (in Canada we have Leasebusters) and filtering the results especially high end, luxury and sports cars.

Some of the leases people get themselves into are amazing, with awful monthly premiums and the buy-out at the end basically way more than the vehicle is going to be worth. Or, leases where it's basically mile'd out and there is still over a year on the lease with $$rape$$ excess charges.

The terrible leases on normal cars aren't quite as funny, they are more sad.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Plek posted:

How do you even get a 78 month loan for a used car? What bank was like 'yeah this is legit?' My condolences on the forever debt.
I got one on a couple year old truck, because I have excellent credit but make garbage money. So, long term loan, but low interest rate and monthly payments. It's a bummer being locked in such a long loan, but the truck will outlive the loan, so eh, whatever.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



wesleywillis posted:

https://www.craigslist.org/about/best/orl/5948013632.html




This is a Subaru Volkswagen Car Invention. It is a functioning vehicle. It has two engines, one in the front and one in the back. They both function. The asking price is $7,000 or best offer.

The front half is a 1985 Subaru GL 4 cylinders. The back end is a 1973 Volkswagen Beetle 4 cylinders.


Esta es una invencion. Es un Subaru Volkswagen. El vehiculo si funciona. Tiene dos motores, uno al frente y una atras. Los dos funcionan. El precio es $7,000 o mejor oferta.

El frente es un Subaru GL del 1985, 4 cilindros. La parte de atras es un Volkswagen Beetle del 1973, 4 cilindros.

Old, but would this technically count as a H8? That’s 2 more H than a Boxster!

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Plek posted:

How do you even get a 78 month loan for a used car? What bank was like 'yeah this is legit?' My condolences on the forever debt.

In this case it was actually through a local credit union somehow, but... Google "Santander"

For example, https://www.thestreet.com/story/14174607/1/supreme-courts-rules-against-expanding-debt-collection-abuse-law-in-santander-case.html

https://jalopnik.com/how-subprime-car-loans-are-ruining-lives-and-repeating-1796893288

Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jan 20, 2019

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

It's a self sustaining economy!

Grakkus
Sep 4, 2011

"I just got a job, my credit is bad, I have $4000 and I need something to drive. gently caress buying a 2-3k Honda, clearly the answer is to finance a GIGANTIC TRUCK". It's sort of hard to feel sorry for the guy.

Though that subprime loan bond poo poo should have been made illegal with huge punishments for doing it 10 years ago, how is it still a thing..

Joe Mama
May 10, 2008
This BS and student debt will change the face of the economy and free market for at least a couple generations. It's just really sad.

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

Grakkus posted:

"I just got a job, my credit is bad, I have $4000 and I need something to drive. gently caress buying a 2-3k Honda, clearly the answer is to finance a GIGANTIC TRUCK". It's sort of hard to feel sorry for the guy.

Slugworth posted:

I got one on a couple year old truck, because I have excellent credit but make garbage money. So, long term loan, but low interest rate and monthly payments. It's a bummer being locked in such a long loan, but the truck will outlive the loan, so eh, whatever.

But you needed the truck, right?

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Cacafuego posted:

But you needed the truck, right?

I might need to move a couch some time in the future. Maybe. gently caress renting a Home Depot truck for $50 if the time ever comes, I need to have that ability 24/7

Plek
Jul 30, 2009

Cacafuego posted:

But you needed the truck, right?

Never underestimate the utility of a small truck. Or overestimate it, I guess. Super useful to have where I am at, but maybe not as much as a hatchback if I was in a city. It's a shame there's some kind of truck mark-up on even tiny, mostly rust old rangers and such.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
A Ford Fiesta will quite happily tow a trailer large enough to hold a sofa, queen size bed and assorted bedroom furniture.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

You're victim blaming, guys. Focus. Yeah people buy wrong things for too much money. 25% interest is still loving criminal. And some piece of poo poo scumbag talked him into believing he could afford it because people are financially illiterate and it's totally legal to exploit them.

Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jan 20, 2019

Plek
Jul 30, 2009

Leperflesh posted:

You're victim blaming, guys. Focus. Yeah people buy wrong things for too much money. 25% interest is still loving criminal. And some piece of poo poo scumbag talked him into believing he could afford it because people are financially illiterate and it's totally legal to exploit them.

It's this. lovely car loans are the new payday loan scam.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Cacafuego posted:

But you needed the truck, right?
I needed a new (used) automobile and a truck best fits my lifestyle, while definitely not being an absolute necessity, yes. Trying to shame someone for having a vehicle that isn't 100% the most practical possible option for them is a super bizarre take in AI. For the record, the loan was 6 months longer than the one I had previously on my focus, and 12 bucks more a month.

I appreciate the concern/superiority, but the reason I have excellent credit is because I don't take on loans I can't afford??

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

Slugworth posted:

I needed a new (used) automobile and a truck best fits my lifestyle, while definitely not being an absolute necessity, yes. Trying to shame someone for having a vehicle that isn't 100% the most practical possible option for them is a super bizarre take in AI. For the record, the loan was 6 months longer than the one I had previously on my focus, and 12 bucks more a month.

I appreciate the concern/superiority, but the reason I have excellent credit is because I don't take on loans I can't afford??

In the interest of not continuing the derail, I'll take it to PMs.

e: eh, gently caress it, I'm not effortposting in PMs. I'll just crosspost it so I don't bog this thread down.

Cacafuego fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Jan 21, 2019

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
I remember reading that Jalopnik article last year, and that guy is both a huge idiot and the victim of predatory lending. There's also no way he's anything like the average subprime borrower since he had $4k in available cash for a down payment.

In any case, a lot of people spend too much on loans because it's actually kind of hard to secure a non-predatory small personal loan with poo poo credit. A lot of times they're going to be on very short terms that might make the payments out of reach or difficult, which makes a much longer term loan on something like a $12k car suddenly seem really appealing. BHPH places basically rely on the fact that most of their customers can't just easily go out and get a good personal loan for $5k.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Paradoxish posted:

I remember reading that Jalopnik article last year, and that guy is both a huge idiot and the victim of predatory lending. There's also no way he's anything like the average subprime borrower since he had $4k in available cash for a down payment.

In any case, a lot of people spend too much on loans because it's actually kind of hard to secure a non-predatory small personal loan with poo poo credit. A lot of times they're going to be on very short terms that might make the payments out of reach or difficult, which makes a much longer term loan on something like a $12k car suddenly seem really appealing. BHPH places basically rely on the fact that most of their customers can't just easily go out and get a good personal loan for $5k.

Car financing for low value cars is unbelievable. I had a friend get 10 credit inquiries from one of those "low credit" dealerships, they ended up with a 5 year, 16% interest loan on a loving Yaris. That "$4000" car is going to cost more than $7000

I was approved for (and thankfully talked down from using) a $3k personal loan from the exact same credit union that had just declined my $3k auto loan application earlier that week :confused:

The Door Frame fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Jan 21, 2019

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:




That's one fresh-rear end not-a-fairmont.

TwoogBuk LLC
Jan 4, 2019

Noob here, been lurking for a while, and thought I could contribute some Down Under content. I've been a motorhead since birth, but never seen a motoring forum that could keep me entertained for a week solid (and I've only scratched the surface)

KakerMix posted:




That's one fresh-rear end not-a-fairmont.

This sent me searching. An American (not-a) Fairmont ? That was a new one on me.

geez 80's American muscle was ugly

This is an '81 Australian Fairmont, which is just an optioned up Falcon. Most were 6's, but 302 & 351 Clevo's were still an option. Unadulterated V8 models are as rocking horse poo poo these days though



Australia's Craigslist (sans hookers) is a "free" site owned by ebay, called Gumtree

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/hobart-cbd/cars-vans-utes/1981-ford-xd-ghia/1191846752

And keeping with the spirit of the thread, I laughed when I first read this ......... and now I'm thinking I might buy the bloody thing if it's still in one piece.


That's not a bullbar, mate ... THIS is a bullbar

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sydney-city/cars-vans-utes/triton-diesel-ute-5-speed-run-out-of-diesel-can-t-get-it-runnin/1206800412

I have the same model in a petrol engine. Bought it 6 months ago for $500 with 170,000 k's, done 30,00 km since with no issues.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


TwoogBuk LLC posted:

Noob here, been lurking for a while, and thought I could contribute some Down Under content. I've been a motorhead since birth, but never seen a motoring forum that could keep me entertained for a week solid (and I've only scratched the surface)


This sent me searching. An American (not-a) Fairmont ? That was a new one on me.

geez 80's American muscle was ugly

Thats... not muscle. That was a "sporty" (e.g. "2-door") version of an economy family sedan, and the Mercury version to boot. It just could be had with a V8 (302W), such as it was, and shared a platform with the Fox-chassis Mustang, so can now be made into a stealth Mustang, essentially.
I don't know if I'd go with ugly, but they were... uninspiring. Fake everything.
There was a version with a swoopier roof (Ford Fairmont Futura) that was a bit more attractive, but they still insisted on a vinyl half-top and two tone paint on it. Also a wagon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Fairmont


quote:

And keeping with the spirit of the thread, I laughed when I first read this ......... and now I'm thinking I might buy the bloody thing if it's still in one piece.


That's not a bullbar, mate ... THIS is a bullbar

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sydney-city/cars-vans-utes/triton-diesel-ute-5-speed-run-out-of-diesel-can-t-get-it-runnin/1206800412

I have the same model in a petrol engine. Bought it 6 months ago for $500 with 170,000 k's, done 30,00 km since with no issues.

You guys definitely know how to build a bull bar. I've seen a few of those leaking out over here in the US on big rigs, and a lot of the tube style bars on newer tractor trailers, presumably because they don't put those massive flat steel bumpers on them any more, and over-the-road guys want some additional protection.

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen

Darchangel posted:

Thats... not muscle. That was a "sporty" (e.g. "2-door") version of an economy family sedan, and the Mercury version to boot. It just could be had with a V8 (302W), such as it was, and shared a platform with the Fox-chassis Mustang, so can now be made into a stealth Mustang, essentially.

The specific example pictured is equipped with the 2.3L "Lima" OHC four, producing ~66kW.

TwoogBuk LLC
Jan 4, 2019

Dagen H posted:

The specific example pictured is equipped with the 2.3L "Lima" OHC four, producing ~66kW.

Oh dear. And that looks like 2 ton of steel.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Bit less than 3000 pounds. And you could get it with the *turbocharged* 4-banger - though it was still carbureted. 120 HP! To be fair, the 302 was only 140.

Coredump
Dec 1, 2002

A car that big and that old being less than 3000 lbs is gonna fold like a soda can with the driver in it. Which means I must have it.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


They’re slightly larger than a Mustang if the time, so... not that big? “Big” is an early ‘70s Olds 98, or Powershift’s Lincoln Mark. Even in ‘80, a Caprice or Town Car were bigger by several feet. The Fairmont/Zephyr were compacts at the time.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Wasn't that the T-Bird of the time?

TwoogBuk LLC
Jan 4, 2019

Darchangel posted:

You guys definitely know how to build a bull bar. I've seen a few of those leaking out over here in the US on big rigs, and a lot of the tube style bars on newer tractor trailers, presumably because they don't put those massive flat steel bumpers on them any more, and over-the-road guys want some additional protection.

That size/style bullbar (5 poster) on a light commercial ute is pretty outrageous, tbh, and not too common here, but the style is practically compulsory for any long hauling semis. The big chrome bumpers (I call them dozer blades) never took off here. You see the odd one, almost always on city trucks.

I have a stupid plan to build up an old crapper as a mini prime mover with an overpowered Cummins, stack, tanks etc, and that bar is a perfect fit.

I'll probably end up in the BWM threads at some point.

TwoogBuk LLC
Jan 4, 2019

I don't mean to thread flood ........ this needs to be shared, is about all I have to say



https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/albion-park/cars-vans-utes/1977-holden-belmont-one-tonner/1207753425

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Nice patina.

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     

TwoogBuk LLC posted:

I don't mean to thread flood ........ this needs to be shared, is about all I have to say



https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/albion-park/cars-vans-utes/1977-holden-belmont-one-tonner/1207753425

Jesus, just when I think I escaped those wheels, they come back to haunt me. Those. loving. Wheels.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Colostomy Bag posted:

Wasn't that the T-Bird of the time?

Sorta. The T-bird was a bit bigger, but it *was* still based on the same Fox platform 1980-88 with a stretched wheelbase. Exclusively 2-door. It's Mercury Cougar counterpart actually came in sedan and wagon as well!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Thunderbird_(eighth_generation)



Same styling.

keykey posted:

Jesus, just when I think I escaped those wheels, they come back to haunt me. Those. loving. Wheels.

Hey! Ansen Sprints (or facsimiles thereof) are classic! (But they need to be deep-dish.)

edit: I kinda like the early-'80s T-bird. With a modern engine, or at least a built 302, it's would be pretty nifty. I definitely like the 6th-gens, especially with the turbo-4. And I still want a Mark VII LSC with the 16" factory BBS wheels and 5.0HO.

Darchangel fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Jan 24, 2019

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     

Darchangel posted:

Hey! Ansen Sprints (or facsimiles thereof) are classic! (But they need to be deep-dish.)

There was a period of time in the 80's where every loving car from trade-in/auction had those fuckers on it. They got to be the lovely wheels of the decade, much like these were about 10 years ago:




Couldn't go anywhere without seeing these on random vehicles, the distastefulness knew no bounds.

Shamino
Mar 14, 2008

I am weary of loitering about Britain. There is much we could be accomplishing! Where hast thou been, anyway?

Shamino
Mar 14, 2008

I am weary of loitering about Britain. There is much we could be accomplishing! Where hast thou been, anyway?


What in god's name...

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Well hopefully it is cast in magnesium.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Shamino posted:



What in god's name...

It's a motorcycle wheel. 30" front wheels are pretty normal in the idiot harley crowd.

Shamino
Mar 14, 2008

I am weary of loitering about Britain. There is much we could be accomplishing! Where hast thou been, anyway?
Ahh, I thought it was a donk wheel. That makes much more sense.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Shamino posted:

Ahh, I thought it was a donk wheel. That makes much more sense.

Sadly it could have been something incredible.

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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010




i'm not a mechanical engineer but the way those "spokes" go into the hub off-center does not seem good to me. Also goddamn it all looks so flimsy.

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