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qirex posted:it would be better to sell the cars cheap to people in the community and let them do stuff what the gently caress is anybody going to do with old train cars
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BMan posted:what the gently caress is anybody going to do with old train cars
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qirex posted:it would be better to sell the cars cheap to people in the community and let them do stuff i'm sure that will work out just fine
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BMan posted:what the gently caress is anybody going to do with old train cars playground spaceship/submarine
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architects get reigned in by civil engineers with (theoretical) professional license certifications techbubel fantasies get reigned in by ????????
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dragon enthusiast posted:architects get reigned in by civil engineers with (theoretical) professional license certifications Architects have professional licenses too Techbubble only gets reeled in by lawsuits after the facade drops
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BMan posted:what the gently caress is anybody going to do with old train cars https://twitter.com/SFBART/status/1081364021670862848
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qirex posted:there's one cable car house and one train car diner left in sf, the diner will be gone in the next year or two the particular one i was thinking of is in upstate new york and was parked there when they were tearing up the railroad and replacing it with highway so it dates from the 50's or 60's. the diner is still running fine afaik 
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i have no idea what would go into stripping subway cars of any toxic materials, but with that being said if they can make them safe enough for people then they'd be better off turning them into artificial reefs they wouldn't make them safe enough for people lol
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subway cars already contain people all day every day i imagine the only "toxic materials" are brake dust / fluids / lubricants in the trucks under the car
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:i have no idea what would go into stripping subway cars of any toxic materials, but with that being said if they can make them safe enough for people then they'd be better off turning them into artificial reefs idk man, the last time we tried using assumed-safe garbage as artificial reefs it killed everything
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they don't contain any specific person for more than at worst an hour or two, at least not the ones who intend on living healthily they would also have to be made to conform to residential building codes, right? compliant electric and gas, compliant water and sewer, emergency egress (and remove emergency features that only make sense for trains like pop-out windows). change the remaining windows to double pane. also I'm guessing that bare sheet metal is not an acceptable material for an inhabited space so you'll have to cover up the whole interior with something also can't really tell from the diagram- are the cars load bearing? can they do that without modification or will they need internal reinforcement? haveblue fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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Shame Boy posted:idk man, the last time we tried using assumed-safe garbage as artificial reefs it killed everything jesus
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the only advantage a train car has over living in a shipping container is that it's already got windows no insulation, no heating, no ventilation, no electricity, no plumbing, useless doors
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Sagebrush posted:the only advantage a train car has over living in a shipping container is that it's already got windows train cars are heated and ventilated already. insulation is poor but not non-existent train cars as housing are really stupid but come on anything is better than a shipping container
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the heater/AC would probably have to be modified or replaced to run on household current anyway
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Shame Boy posted:idk man, the last time we tried using assumed-safe garbage as artificial reefs it killed everything if you click through to your own article it indicates that it wasn't the use of tires, it was the mounting system the mounts failed almost immediately, tires are just a loose pile on the seafloor, drifting around. not ideal habitats for, well, anything
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haveblue posted:the heater/AC would probably have to be modified or replaced to run on household current anyway they are probably 120 or 240 just like household units for practical reasons cheaper to install one or transformers inside the car than to source special versions of every single electrical device to run at medium/high voltage i'd still rather not pay the cost of heating/cooling a metal box with minimal insulation to live in it jesus
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Shame Boy posted:idk man, the last time we tried using assumed-safe garbage as artificial reefs it killed everything not that long ago some local schools and parks decided to use shredded tires instead of mulch on the playgrounds because they thought it would be both eco friendly (recycling!) and kid safe. needless to say, the shredded rubber isn't there anymore.
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The_Franz posted:not that long ago some local schools and parks decided to use shredded tires instead of mulch on the playgrounds because they thought it would be both eco friendly (recycling!) and kid safe. needless to say, the shredded rubber isn't there anymore. holy poo poo wow quote:The Consumer Product Safety Commission recommends the following precautions: good going
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considering the poor to non-existent insulation already present in most California homes I don't see how a metal box could be any better/worse 
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It’s clear that drawing was just a publicity stunt (and maybe a scheme by BART to get one of the local billionaires to buy an old subway car or three to take out to Burning Man).
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*imports train model into sketchup, presses copy and paste 100 times* look ma, I'm an architect
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haveblue posted:they don't contain any specific person for more than at worst an hour or two, at least not the ones who intend on living healthily thats kind of the joke of the whole thing legally it would not be out of line to plop down single cars or even a few connected ones on a plot of land and just have it be a really lovely trailer house to a pretty decent trailer house depending on which specific railcar you were using. individual houses usually aren't required to have things like water hookups or electric lines - you can go an dbuild some fuckin unabomber shack and live in it if you want after all.and hell it's not like a railcar is going to collapse from an earthquake either so it's going to be pretty much fine cemented to the ground and still meet earthquake code but when you start piling them all up into a multifamily residence you are subject to much more stringent building codes, mandates to provide utility hook ups and all that. Notorious b.s.d. posted:subway cars already contain people all day every day a bunch of older railcars out there still have a bunch of asbestos in them that wasn't yet pulled out in one refurbishment cycle or another, and yes there can be nasty stuff in the equipment not in the passenger cabin that probably would need to be remediated before legal use in a building.
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BMan posted:*imports train model into sketchup, presses copy and paste 100 times* congratulations, here’s your professional license
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fishmech posted:individual houses usually aren't required to have things like water hookups or electric lines im actually not sure one could build to code and not have a water hookup at all
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The_Franz posted:not that long ago some local schools and parks decided to use shredded tires instead of mulch on the playgrounds because they thought it would be both eco friendly (recycling!) and kid safe. needless to say, the shredded rubber isn't there anymore. oh hey my elementary school did that... for like a year, before it was replaced by sand. i always assumed it was replaced because the bits got stuck in kids' shoes and then left black streaks all over all the floors
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Trabisnikof posted:im actually not sure one could build to code and not have a water hookup at all pretty sure you can still build a unabomber shack and use an outhouse and have it be fine, even if some municipalities wouldn't let you have it in city limits in the same way they won't let you have a lawn go unmowed or whatever there's still plenty of rural areas with no proper hookups like that
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fishmech posted:pretty sure you can still build a unabomber shack and use an outhouse and have it be fine, even if some municipalities wouldn't let you have it in city limits in the same way they won't let you have a lawn go unmowed or whatever I’ve stayed at very rural hunting lodges with septic tanks and their own personal water towers filled partially from a well and partially from rainwater. Too far off the grid so you gotta build your own grid.
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lmao https://twitter.com/gregotto/status/1087830112266059778 “It warned that the United States had retaliated against Pyongyang and that people in the affected areas had three hours to evacuate,” Lyons said Monday. “It sounded completely legit, and it was loud and got our attention right off the bat. … It was five minutes of sheer terror and another 30 minutes trying to figure out what was going on.” Lyons and her husband stood slack-jawed in the living room, terrified but also confused because the television continued airing the NFC Championship football game. As their scared 8-year-old son crawled underneath the rug, the couple realized the apocalyptic warning came from their Nest security camera atop their living room television. After many panicked minutes and phone calls to 911 and to Nest, the couple learned they likely were the victims of a hacker. And that panic turned to anger when they found out that Nest knew that there had been a number of such incidents — none involving nuclear strike scenarios — but failed to alert customers. Lyons said a Nest supervisor told them Sunday they likely were the victims of a “third party hack” that gained access to their camera and its speakers. The company did not return a request for comment Monday. ok the internet of poo poo is cool again
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yeah those are the kind of hacks that i wanna see. more taking over people's apartments to  freak them out, less stealing their personal information to sell to insurance companies
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:lmao Cucked by my camera, 5 minutes of sheer terror written by Chuck Tingle
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hawaii-missile-alerts-as-a-service
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that missile alert was wild you could really tell who didn't check their phones lol
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The_Franz posted:not that long ago some local schools and parks decided to use shredded tires instead of mulch on the playgrounds because they thought it would be both eco friendly (recycling!) and kid safe. needless to say, the shredded rubber isn't there anymore. im pretty sure my elementary school had that when i was a kid lol
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:lmao lol
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haveblue posted:change the remaining windows to double pane. hahahahaha have you ever seen a bay area apartment
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DELETE CASCADE posted:hahahahaha have you ever seen a bay area apartment new construction is typically held to a stricter standard for code compliance than historic or "grandfathered in" structures, of which there is no shortage in sf newer stuff is going to have noticeably better insulation and energy efficiency, as well as better seismic protection even in areas that aren't entirely neglecting to require seismic retrofits of their building owners tbf i expect that "why can't i build this like it's the 70s" is prolly gonna be asked by the people behind any kinda affordable housing project anyway
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FrozenVent posted:what’s the name of this podcast? Your av fills me with confusion and anger in roughly equal measure, hth?
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