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Shrieking Muppet posted:It got worse later, boat got stuck under the bridge. ruined the commute for half the city since all the bridges were closed. ask me why i know Was it your boat
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Kibayasu posted:Was it your boat He was driving
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Nckdictator posted:Sorry for popping in with nothing to contribute but can anyone recommend any decent books on ship wrecks, sinkings, or maritime disasters? This, but specifically the one with the [in Scooby-Doo voice]
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Burt Sexual posted:He was driving Better fortune than other boat crews that post here.
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Old pic but I really don't miss being a Rail Network Controller:
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Russian Tu-22M bomber on training flight lands south of Murmansk (no bombs onboard) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8veRu_1I_c&t=61s 3 crew members died immediately or soon after, one is being treated for critical injuries
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Nenonen posted:Russian Tu-22M bomber on training flight lands south of Murmansk (no bombs onboard) Where'd the rest of the plane go? Oh. There it is.
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Nenonen posted:Russian Tu-22M bomber on training flight lands south of Murmansk (no bombs onboard) The front fell off.
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Lands is a very generous descriptor for what happens in that video.
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Some talk about it being massively overloaded, the break happens before the front wheels touch down also. Want to bet the maintenance records are either missing or suspiciously freshly-printed?
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Byzantine posted:This, but specifically the one with the [in Scooby-Doo voice] This is the long article form of the El Faro disaster by Langeweische. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/04/inside-el-faro-the-worst-us-maritime-disaster-in-decades/amp
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cakesmith handyman posted:Some talk about it being massively overloaded, the break happens before the front wheels touch down also. Want to bet the maintenance records are either missing or suspiciously freshly-printed? To me it looks like it touched down way too hard, resulting in a violent bounce off the tarmac while the nose wanted to continue the descent. Poor visibility must have helped but whether it happened because the pilot was drunk or because the instruments were off remains to be seen. For reference, this is how a Tu-22M looks after a perfectly successful landing at Zapad 2017 exercise:  
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Humphreys posted:Old pic but I really don't miss being a Rail Network Controller: This is the kind of job that looks awesome but probably is terrible. Did you at least get to talk on radios a lot like air traffic controllers? How much track and trains was under your control? I always imagined train networks could be managed fairly well by computers alone.
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Nenonen posted:To me it looks like it touched down way too hard, resulting in a violent bounce off the tarmac while the nose wanted to continue the descent. Poor visibility must have helped but whether it happened because the pilot was drunk or because the instruments were off remains to be seen. Disclaimer that this is both early reporting and reporting from Russia, but apparently weather turned bad very rapidly in a known phenomenon, but one that's hard to predict. The pilots returned to base and landed way hard, obviously. Some reporting that they landed overweight, which could have been a result of aborting mission and returning to base with too much fuel? Bad visibility and fear of worsening weather conditions if you go around has led to many a bad landing/flight decision. In any case, the approach looks very different from a normal approach. mlmp08 posted:This is stating the obvious, but that bird came in hot/steep. That other TU-22M3 mishap you posted wasn't a crash landing; it was a late abort takeoff when they no longer had enough runway to safely stop.
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I admit to not being an aeronautical engineer, but the failure mode of “folds in two at the middle” is not one I would ever have expected for an airplane. Even if the front landing gear was completely locked up, I would expect that to be the designed break point rather than the middle of the fuselage.
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Grundulum posted:I admit to not being an aeronautical engineer, but the failure mode of “folds in two at the middle” is not one I would ever have expected for an airplane. Even if the front landing gear was completely locked up, I would expect that to be the designed break point rather than the middle of the fuselage. Part of the problem is that they hit REALLY HARD and the front gear never even touches the ground (well, it does after the front breaks off). The angle of attack and high speed of impact broke the plane's spine before the front gear could even touch down to mitigate that stress. There could have been some structural maintenance problems, as well, but they clearly landed way out of tolerance.
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It looks like a horrible blizzard, so not exactly mystery why they might have touched down so hard. Those old huge designed to be super sonic bombers don’t exactly handle well at low speed like your average airliner. That rear landing gear is admirably strongly built for rough landings loaded with heavy bombs but they came down like they couldn’t even see the ground so it broke one of the weakest links of the plane in half. You can see lots of plane crashes that have fractures at the same location
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jemand posted:This is the long article form of the El Faro disaster by Langeweische. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/04/inside-el-faro-the-worst-us-maritime-disaster-in-decades/amp Omg. Wow.
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That has to be controlled flight into terrain. Rate of decent was unchanged, no flare, attitude unchanged, no sudden movements before impact to indicate loss of control to turbulence. With visibility that atrocious so I am not surprised the pilot had lost awareness and with a high nose couldn't see the runway. Possible instrument failure on the cards too.
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oohhboy posted:That has to be controlled flight into terrain. Rate of decent was unchanged, no flare, attitude unchanged, no sudden movements before impact to indicate loss of control to turbulence. With visibility that atrocious so I am not surprised the pilot had lost awareness and with a high nose couldn't see the runway. Possible instrument failure on the cards too. No doubt the deicing system on that plane is a relic as well, full of autopilot overrides etc
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Icon Of Sin posted:Dude’s got some solid reaction time, just one shouldn’t try to catch part of a tree trunk at high speed great reaction time, poor decision making....thats a treefuckler alright 
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I have a bit of a guilty pleasure watching the show Forged in Fire. It's basically a blacksmith contest show where people compete over who can make the raddest swords and whatnot. It's pretty OSHA by default, since many of the contestants are amateur and there are plenty of power tools and open flames involved. But today I saw something a bit special: https://i.imgur.com/ly6Jra4.mp4 The guy was even shown to own and use a working welding mask just a bit earlier, too.
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oohhboy posted:That has to be controlled flight into terrain. Rate of decent was unchanged, no flare, attitude unchanged, no sudden movements before impact to indicate loss of control to turbulence. With visibility that atrocious so I am not surprised the pilot had lost awareness and with a high nose couldn't see the runway. Possible instrument failure on the cards too. Yeah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIsbSz03WdU
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Humphreys posted:Old pic but I really don't miss being a Rail Network Controller: so stoked for Loderunner II
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This week I learned about a train derailment in Dodge City in 2016: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Cimarron_train_derailment NTSB report and a subsequent lawsuit claim that a grain shipping company left one of their trucks on an incline without the brakes set. the truck rolled across a section of track, and the grain company sent out a tow to pull the truck away. the grain company never bothered to contact Amtrak. their negligence damaged the track line badly enough to throw the train. as a bit of trivia: the reason i learned about this was because i was looking up a musician named "Z'EV" who used to work with bauhaus and genesis p-orridge, that sort of stuff. he happened to be on that train and was injured so badly he was airlifted to a nearby hospital, and wound up dying of complications about a year later lol if you fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jan 27, 2019 |
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lol if you posted:the train rolled across a section of track
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Splicer posted:Did you mean the truck? d'oh, so i did
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Perestroika posted:I have a bit of a guilty pleasure watching the show Forged in Fire. It's basically a blacksmith contest show where people compete over who can make the raddest swords and whatnot. It's pretty OSHA by default, since many of the contestants are amateur and there are plenty of power tools and open flames involved. But today I saw something a bit special: Engage safety squints!
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Canuckistan posted:Engage safety squints!
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Splicer posted:He looks weirdly into it. I think anyone who signs up for a competitive forging TV show automatically counts as "weirdly into it".
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lol if you posted:This week I learned about a train derailment in Dodge City in 2016: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Cimarron_train_derailment US needs to nationalize its choo choo tracks and allocate their usage based on the maximum social good and also do crazy poo poo like keep them safe.
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Perestroika posted:I have a bit of a guilty pleasure watching the show Forged in Fire. It's basically a blacksmith contest show where people compete over who can make the raddest swords and whatnot. It's pretty OSHA by default, since many of the contestants are amateur and there are plenty of power tools and open flames involved. But today I saw something a bit special: Did the show like, do anything about it after that? I mean people are gonna do dumbass poo poo but it seems pretty negligent if they let people continue on doing dumbass poo poo for the sake of TV.
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Dave Grool posted:Did the show like, do anything about it after that? I mean people are gonna do dumbass poo poo but it seems pretty negligent if they let people continue on doing dumbass poo poo for the sake of TV. It looks like that's the portion they do at home, so they probably didn't have a whole lot of control. Some dude ran in the forge once and the hosts yelled "Don't run in the forge!" for like a second. On the spin off show Knife Fight they run an obstacle course slicing stuff up with a knife, a lady got so tired she started hacking at her own leg once and was eliminated. On Chopped someone got eliminated for running once, I think.
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Grem posted:On the spin off show Knife Fight they run an obstacle course slicing stuff up with a knife, a lady got so tired she started hacking at her own leg once and was eliminated. Like she mistook her leg for an obstacle or what?
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CrazySalamander posted:Like she mistook her leg for an obstacle or what? "This leg is slowing me down, if I chop it off then it can't hold me back no more"
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CrazySalamander posted:Like she mistook her leg for an obstacle or what? She was chopping at, I think, the large block of ice with a katana and was so tired she couldn't stop her swing. It went into her leg, but they wear leg pads so the producers just ran in and told her to cut it out 
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Grem posted:She was chopping at, I think, the large block of ice with a katana and was so tired she couldn't stop her swing. It went into her leg, but they wear leg pads so the producers just ran in and told her to cut it out boo this man!
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Nckdictator posted:Sorry for popping in with nothing to contribute but can anyone recommend any decent books on ship wrecks, sinkings, or maritime disasters? The Other Titanic by Simon Martin is about two madmen diving for a wreck of a ship which had two clocks offset by 40 minutes while navigating by dead reckoning.
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SelenicMartian posted:Marine Salvage by J N Gores is a hilarious story of men dying at sea for decades. I'm sure it was this thread that got me to buy it. Also Joe Gores is a pretty good crime writer.
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ethanol posted:No doubt the deicing system on that plane is a relic as well, full of autopilot overrides etc quote:One of the few prized things about the Tu-22 was that hydraulic and de-icing systems required 450 liters (119 US gallons) of pure grain alcohol ... the VVS never bothered to denature the stuff to render it undrinkable, possibly out of fears personnel would try to drink it anyway. Look at that weather. Even before the blizzard, the ground crews would have been cold enough to drink it.
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