|
Big Bob Pataki posted:The mailbag episode after BVS is one of my favorite episodes of any podcast. Those suckers don't know what they're missing. they're missing all THE PARADEMONS
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 18:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 14, 2024 21:49 |
|
Fart City posted:Not only that, but the whole thing was a huge passion project for him. He’d been trying to get it developed for years. Drew McWeeny talked a little bit about this on HDTGM (on the Toys episode): almost all passion projects turn out crappy because the scripts aren't touched and the sheer investment in vision above anything else doesn't allow for anyone to take a step back and be like "this is a bad, bad idea" or to be like "who is this actually made for". Battlefield Earth springs to mind as another one.
|
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 22:04
|
|
|
It's not really their fault though, they've never even read a comic before.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 22:05
|
|
|
Captain Hotbutt posted:Drew McWeeny talked a little bit about this on HDTGM (on the Toys episode): almost all passion projects turn out crappy because the scripts aren't touched and the sheer investment in vision above anything else doesn't allow for anyone to take a step back and be like "this is a bad, bad idea" or to be like "who is this actually made for". Battlefield Earth springs to mind as another one. Happytime Murders, FWIW, seems to be the exact opposite of this. Henson's script got a lot of buzz and was apparently a mostly-played-straight neo-noir; the movie we got is flaming poo poo because Melissa McCarthy's husband did a page-one rewrite to turn it into a Melissa McCarthy movie.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 22:12
|
|
|
General Dog posted:He's just continuing the legacy of those brutally unfunny muppet skits his dad did for SNL. The Land of Gorch is better than most of the musical performances. But so is turning the TV off.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 22:52
|
|
|
  This is deep and says something about society.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 22:53
|
|
|
People got paid millions of dollars to make a movie about puppet cum.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2019 23:11
|
|
|
Seriously, I don't mind Melissa McCarthy as an actress, but gross-out comedies are not what she's even remotely loving good at and I don't understand why her husband is so desperate to shove that particular square peg through.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 03:00
|
|
|
Elderbean posted:People got paid millions of dollars to
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 03:57
|
|
|
UltimoDragonQuest posted:The production footage in the credits is the highlight of Happytime. It's bizarrely fascinating to see people in green jumpsuits crouching and contorting for a 90 minute dick joke. Life of the Party is the lesser 2018 McCarthy vehicle because it lacks any ambition. Really, Happytime Murders is the kind of bad you can only get when you have lots of talented and funny people gathered together and not a single one of them can think of anything more creative than “What if puppets but with sex and violence?”
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 07:19
|
|
|
Rahonavis posted:Really, Happytime Murders is the kind of bad you can only get when you have lots of talented and funny people gathered together and not a single one of them can think of anything more creative than “What if puppets but with sex and violence?”
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 07:31
|
|
|
LORD OF BOOTY posted:Happytime Murders, FWIW, seems to be the exact opposite of this. Henson's script got a lot of buzz and was apparently a mostly-played-straight neo-noir; the movie we got is flaming poo poo because Melissa McCarthy's husband did a page-one rewrite to turn it into a Melissa McCarthy movie. Yeah, I was hoping to hear a little more about this from somebody. I definitely remember an old article when it was in early production that was hyping it up as a weird dark comedy where most of the jokes were just about the colorful muppets clashing with a noir story. Like there was a shot of a big bird style burlesque dancer strangled with a boa and the main detective pontificating on the senselessness of it all while blowing stuffing away. Gave me the weird feeling when I first saw the actual trailers and it was just another McCarthy movie.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 12:19
|
|
|
I laughed so hard at the immediate transition from “and then Mellisa McCarthy bites some puppet’s cock off” right into the little Spanish flea ad music.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 13:51
|
|
LORD OF BOOTY posted:Happytime Murders, FWIW, seems to be the exact opposite of this. Henson's script got a lot of buzz and was apparently a mostly-played-straight neo-noir; the movie we got is flaming poo poo because Melissa McCarthy's husband did a page-one rewrite to turn it into a Melissa McCarthy movie. Ah, gotcha. Welp, in the words of Andrew Jupin: "That stinks".
|
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 14:46
|
|
|
You know, I also could have sworn Will Arnett voiced the puppet before I listened to this episode
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 16:20
|
|
|
Imagine puppets saying curse words being the passion project you've worked so hard to realize, finally getting it done in 2018. Even though this had been done extensively by many other people to the point of un-funniness for the past 60 years. I wonder if he was stewing in rage as he saw things like Crank Yankers, Meet the Feebles, and Wonder Showzen, knowing that some day he'd get to show these philistines what puppet ejaculation is all about.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 18:07
|
|
|
Tato posted:Imagine puppets saying curse words being the passion project you've worked so hard to realize, finally getting it done in 2018. Even though this had been done extensively by many other people to the point of un-funniness for the past 60 years. I wonder if he was stewing in rage as he saw things like Crank Yankers, Meet the Feebles, and Wonder Showzen, knowing that some day he'd get to show these philistines what puppet ejaculation is all about. The idea of the movie being a straight forward noir, just with puppets, is an interesting idea. And the WHM boys hit on a few funny ideas, mostly playing around with the idea that these are puppets and would be basically weightless sacks of felt and cotton. Like when they mentioned the puppet should have gotten thrown in the jet engine and a bunch of stuffing flew out the other end - that could be funny. A puppet trying to fight somebody and the guy just picking it up and tossing it away could be funny. But making the entire movie "What if a puppet said gently caress and was HORNY" is something I'd have written as an edgy 13 year old.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 18:26
|
|
|
It sounds like the original version had more of a roger rabbit vibe, which couldve been awesome
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 19:17
|
|
|
"Let me be science" caused a loud laugh in the gym yesterday.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 19:56
|
|
|
Tato posted:Imagine puppets saying curse words being the passion project you've worked so hard to realize, finally getting it done in 2018. Even though this had been done extensively by many other people to the point of un-funniness for the past 60 years. I wonder if he was stewing in rage as he saw things like Crank Yankers, Meet the Feebles, and Wonder Showzen, knowing that some day he'd get to show these philistines what puppet ejaculation is all about. I'm pretty sure he's angrier that this movie had puppet ejaculation jokes in it than anything else, given that the whole idea of his passion project was to make a regular-rear end R-rated noir movie but with muppets. Like, I'm not sure if he's actively said anything about it, but if I were Brian Henson I would be fairly angry that my passion project got turned into this, when by all appearances it began life as something way, way better.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 20:02
|
|
|
LORD OF BOOTY posted:I'm pretty sure he's angrier that this movie had puppet ejaculation jokes in it than anything else, given that the whole idea of his passion project was to make a regular-rear end R-rated noir movie but with muppets. Check the video I posted earlier. He talks directly about the ejaculation scene. He says something like how it’s not funny because it’s a puppet ejaculating, but it’s the ejaculation being silly string that makes it funny. This was his doing.
|
|
#
?
Jan 30, 2019 20:44
|
|
|
Cael posted:I laughed so hard at the immediate transition from “and then Mellisa McCarthy bites some puppet’s cock off” right into the little Spanish flea ad music. I thought it was just me. I died.
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 01:11
|
|
|
WHY BONER NOW posted:It sounds like the original version had more of a roger rabbit vibe, which couldve been awesome Right. Brick meets Roger Rabbit is not the worst idea in the world. It could, at the very least, be an interesting cult classic. Happytime Murders has the problem which is the other end of the stick of the Passion Project problem: call it the Black List Problem. So the Black List (not the TV show), as alluded to in the episode, is a famous list of movie scripts which are considered by professional screenwriters to be great scripts but which have languished for years without being made into movies. It's all the best movies that never were, if you believe the hype. It's been a thing since 2005 and got a lot of exposure four or five years ago, after which some Black List scripts finally* started to get made into films, and 99% of them have sucked. Hard. Is this because the whole idea of The Black List is overblown? yeah, probably. But it's also because of a basic principle that should be obvious if you think about it. Why does a script appear on the Black List? Because some people think it's really good, but also because none of the people who think it's good have any kind of real power within the movie industry. Because if they had the power to green light scripts and they liked a script, that script would currently be in production and hence not on the Black List. So in order for a script on the Black list to get made, one of two things has to happen: a) One of the people behind the script finally does something which gets them enough juice in Hollywood that they get their pick of movie project. At this point, the script graduates from Black List to Passion Project, and for the reasons already stated, those almost always suck. b) Someone in Hollywood who has sufficient juice but isn't creative finds themselves desperate enough to gamble on an untried property, and they hear about this trendy new Black List thing and decide to make a movie. Now the script, which might actually be really good, is getting made, but it's getting made by someone other than the author, who has their own agenda that they're going to try to cram the movie into. This is Happytime Murders. c) everything works perfectly and a great movie gets made. This is John Wick (Black list 2012). This only happened that one time. *Actually, a gently caress-ton of them got made into movies before the list was popularized and, if anything, fewer of them have gotten made into movies since people started podcasting about it, but whatevers. Old Kentucky Shark fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Jan 31, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 01:16
|
|
|
How was John Wick described on the black list. I really need to watch it
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 02:07
|
|
|
Calaveron posted:How was John Wick described on the black list. I really need to watch it On the Black List, John Wick was described as "Dude, Calaveron, you've gotta loving watch this movie right now, and the sequel, and then the trailer for the third, what the gently caress man stop posting right now and go do it" I believe that was the exact verbiage at least
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 02:11
|
|
|
Old Kentucky Shark posted:Right. Brick meets Roger Rabbit is not the worst idea in the world. It could, at the very least, be an interesting cult classic. this is an incredibly dumb post. i want you (and anyone else who wants to marvel at how dumb this post is) to read the list on this Wiki article of all of the movies featured on the Black List at some point that got made and note how many good movies there are. literally the very first year of the Black List featured: The American Babel Blood Diamond Horrible Bosses Hot Rod Juno The Kite Runner Lars and the Real Girl Little Children Little Miss Sunshine Margaret Michael Clayton Nebraska Notes on a Scandal The Other Boelyn Girl The Prestige The Queen Stop Loss Under The Skin And Motherfucking Zodiac. edit: in the same year as John Wick there were literally three future Best Picture nominees you dummy DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Jan 31, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 02:23
|
|
|
DC Murderverse posted:this is an incredibly dumb post. i want you (and anyone else who wants to marvel at how dumb this post is) to read the list on this Wiki article of all of the movies featured on the Black List at some point that got made and note how many good movies there are. I was being tongue in cheek -- I don't literally think John Wick was the only good movie from the Black list -- but I was pointing out how a bunch of very prominent WHM-level clunkers -- Life Itself, Bird Box, Transcendance, The Last Witchhunter, Bad Grandpa -- got their start on what was supposed to be a list of the very best scripts, and how you might get from here to there, but it turns out I was misremembering a bunch of movies as having been on the Black list that weren't. I could have sworn Bright was on there. So, fair enough, my bad.
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 03:31
|
|
|
Bad Grandpa is a good movie. I will die on this hill.
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 08:33
|
|
|
Dirty Grandpa, not Bad Grandpa
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 09:16
|
|
|
A lot of these Black List films have provided great WHM episodes. The Last Witch Hunter, Life Itself, Wild Hogs, Dracula Untold, Dirty Grandpa, and Transcendence. If the movies end up great, cool beans, if they're awful we get a WHM episode on them. Win win
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 14:00
|
|
|
When I first read about The Happytime Murders almost a decade ago, I thought it was going to be a movie adaptation of Puppet Rapist (which I think was made by a goon?). http://ny.channel101.com/show.php?show=54
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 17:09
|
|
|
Andorra posted:Dirty Grandpa, not Bad Grandpa Would somebody PLEASE wipe Dirty Grandpa's rear end already?
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 17:10
|
|
|
Brocktoon posted:When I first read about The Happytime Murders almost a decade ago, I thought it was going to be a movie adaptation of Puppet Rapist (which I think was made by a goon?). Holy cow, blast from the past.
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 17:31
|
|
|
Between Happytime Murders and Dirty Grandpa, it turns out "What if ________ jerked off and swore a lot?" isn't a good premise for a movie
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 18:03
|
|
|
Andorra posted:Between Happytime Murders and Dirty Grandpa, it turns out "What if ________ jerked off and swore a lot?" isn't a good premise for a movie Bad Santa was alright
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 18:09
|
|
|
PostNouveau posted:Bad Santa was alright Not sure if Bad Santa has aged all that well, but I think we can all agree that Bad Santa 2 was trash.
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 19:40
|
|
|
Dunno if this was posted yet but they've announced the movies for "The East Cage Tour" 4/22 - Knowing 4/23 - Gone in 60 Seconds 4/24 - National Treasure 4/25 - The Wicker Man
|
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 23:44
|
|
|
Captain Hotbutt posted:4/25 - The Wicker Man Oh poo poo!
|
|
#
?
Jan 31, 2019 23:50
|
|
|
Captain Hotbutt posted:Dunno if this was posted yet but they've announced the movies for "The East Cage Tour" I have only seen two of these but it won't lessen my enjoyment of any episode. That's how good a podcast this is.
|
|
#
?
Feb 1, 2019 00:44
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 14, 2024 21:49 |
|
|
I actually like National Treasure as a solid hangover movie. Still looking forward to the episode.
|
|
#
?
Feb 1, 2019 01:01
|
|