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I eat my cereal dry because milk has been disgusting since before I was born
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Jan 29, 2019 18:00
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^^what the hell are you talking about ^^ well i certainly read it in his voice
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Jan 29, 2019 18:00
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The Bloop posted:^^what the hell are you talking about ^^ It takes a good eight seconds to properly say "is cereal soup" in a Q voice.
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Jan 29, 2019 18:05
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Kibayasu posted:I always forget how bad the fat suit was and I love it every time. The fat suit was made out of Sharon's pregnancy prosthetic, always cracks me up. Fat Lee was mpreg cosplay
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Jan 29, 2019 21:10
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McSpanky posted:The fat suit was made out of Sharon's pregnancy prosthetic, always cracks me up. Fat Lee was mpreg cosplay canon
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Jan 29, 2019 21:50
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Getting around to watching the new Discovery and boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy does it suck on toast. One of the bridge crew who's been hanging around gets randomly assigned the backstory of "grew up in a Luddite colony", which gently caress me I still can't figure that one out.
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Jan 30, 2019 03:03
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PostNouveau posted:Getting around to watching the new Discovery and boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy does it suck on toast. Like the one from the TNG film
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Jan 30, 2019 03:06
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Tunicate posted:Like the one from the TNG film  you watched a TNG film
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Jan 30, 2019 03:10
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PostNouveau posted:Getting around to watching the new Discovery and boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy does it suck on toast. you are on the wrong side of history here NBD but you are being incorrect about star trek and people can see
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Jan 30, 2019 03:13
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Also luddites didn't hate technology, they just were not down with capital installing new machinery in order to use a loop-hole to reclassify their work and pay them a fraction of what they were contracted to make. The whole "luddites just hated progress and technology" was a meme created by capital to paint the protest movement as nothing more than people scared of progress. In trek there is no money or labour exploitation, so there would be no need for "Luddite collectives"
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Jan 30, 2019 03:18
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It's so bad they said Disco was gonna do a donut and then it just kinda went straight and made a 90-degree turn.
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Jan 30, 2019 03:18
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Baronjutter posted:Also luddites didn't hate technology, they just were not down with capital installing new machinery in order to use a loop-hole to reclassify their work and pay them a fraction of what they were contracted to make. I don't think they lived in collectives either they just hosed machines up
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Jan 30, 2019 03:19
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PostNouveau posted:I don't think they lived in collectives either they just hosed machines up Yeah they were part of the emerging middle class of high paid skilled craftsmen. It wasn't a revolt of oppressed peasants wanting solidarity with all workers and the create of primitive collectives. They were just a professional lobby group getting hosed over by their boss. It's so weird how the term luddite has morphed into "they were like anarcho-primitive Amish or something right?" God drat going to make a series of 47 videos of trek getting history and socio-political terms wrong.
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Jan 30, 2019 04:30
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Baronjutter posted:It's so weird how the term luddite has morphed into "they were like anarcho-primitive Amish or something right?" Phaser rifles must have rifled barrels that spin a physical projectile, because that's what the word means. Blueprints are literally blue, due to the 19th-century chemical engineering of the print. Masochists all publish utopian socialist philosophy and have a thing for fur. Because words never ever acquire broader meanings over the course of centuries.
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Jan 30, 2019 04:48
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They didn't even seem to suggest that the "luddite collective" was a bad thing. They could be like 23rd Amish, without the hosed up religious parts. Living old fashioned lives with minimal technology as they believe it makes for a better life, while still having contact with the modern world and taking advantage of it where it clearly offers benefits. For example in the present day many Amish communities still allow their people to use modern dentists and doctors. I wouldn't be surprised if her luddite collective had a replicator kept locked in a cupboard for emergency situations while discouraging it's "trivial" use.
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Jan 30, 2019 07:21
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I kind of like the alternate arrangement of Stealing the Enterprise that this recording has got going, but the only thing holding me back from really loving it is that the trumpets just do not sound like they're up to the part.
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Jan 30, 2019 07:35
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I feel like basically half the colonies shown in Star Trek are basically space Luddite communes.
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Jan 30, 2019 10:28
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I figure the thing is with space colonies isn't just that they're Luddites/Amish but the infrastructure that people take for granted on Earth isn't something you can plop down easily. Replicators and transporters likely require a shitload of energy, and most of the power sources that can provide that level of energy are mined in space or on inhospitable moons, requiring steady supply lines and agreements. For a more modern day example, setting up a home in the middle of nowhere is necessarily going to mean losing a lot of comforts we take for granted- running water, refrigeration, air conditioning, roads, the internet- until you can build all the requisite infrastructure.Senor Tron posted:They didn't even seem to suggest that the "luddite collective" was a bad thing. The real issue with that episode showed the problems not of disdaining technology but cutting yourself off from wider society and oversight, leading to a horrible, abusive cult compound led by a fanatic. I figured the whole Rumspringa thing is specifically meant to give Amish youth a taste of the wider world so they can make a relatively informed choice on whether they want to stay within the community or join the wider world; forcing people to live that lifestyle who don't want to is going to have negative effects on the entire community. I have heard that the Amish have a lot of social problems anyway, but there's clearly a pragmatic streak about them. There's some sense to having people around who know how to live a life outside advanced technological infrastructure. The social attitudes are another question though. Funny thing is the space hippies explicitly want to set up such a community in The Way To Eden, and the one who sympathises most with them is Spock. It actually fits well the spiritual and monastic side of Vulcans, trying to find an enlightened way of living. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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Jan 30, 2019 10:55
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Spoiler alert: Pretty much everyone likes the two new episodes of DISCO. This guy just wants to poo poo on something and can’t even get his words right.
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Jan 30, 2019 12:24
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CaveGrinch posted:Spoiler alert: Pretty much everyone likes the two new episodes of DISCO. Dude people can not like things without ulterior motive, popularity isn't proof of quality
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Jan 30, 2019 13:40
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Resistance as you know it is over. Your opinions will adapt to service us. You will become one with the thread.
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Jan 30, 2019 14:05
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CaveGrinch posted:Spoiler alert: Pretty much everyone likes the two new episodes of DISCO. I liked the first one and I words good mostly ok?
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Jan 30, 2019 14:18
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The real issue with that episode showed the problems not of disdaining technology but cutting yourself off from wider society and oversight, leading to a horrible, abusive cult compound led by a fanatic. Are you talking about the most recent episode of Discovery here? Because nothing about what we’re shown hinted at abuse or cultism. I don’t know where you’re getting that from at all. They were portrayed as a quaint little community with a weird, eclectic mish-mash of a religion and slight anti-technological leanings.
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Jan 30, 2019 14:53
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Phylodox posted:Are you talking about the most recent episode of Discovery here? Because nothing about what we’re shown hinted at abuse or cultism. I don’t know where you’re getting that from at all. They were portrayed as a quaint little community with a weird, eclectic mish-mash of a religion and slight anti-technological leanings. Probably means the anti-tech commune episode of DS9 where Sisko gets crated
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Jan 30, 2019 14:59
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CaveGrinch posted:Spoiler alert: Pretty much everyone likes the two new episodes of DISCO. The quick cuts and bad editing from Season 1 that drove me insane are still there though.
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Jan 30, 2019 15:12
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skasion posted:Probably means the anti-tech commune episode of DS9 where Sisko gets crated That lady was a real piece of work, I tell you what
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Jan 30, 2019 15:15
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FlamingLiberal posted:It sure seems like so far the writing has improved. I actually think it’s improved somewhat, though it’s still needlessly hectic. The episode where Saru goes crazy on the planet was one of the worst obvious cobble-jobs I’ve ever seen on television. The production interns I train could have produced something better than that travesty.
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Jan 30, 2019 15:20
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Phylodox posted:Are you talking about the most recent episode of Discovery here? Because nothing about what we’re shown hinted at abuse or cultism. I don’t know where you’re getting that from at all. They were portrayed as a quaint little community with a weird, eclectic mish-mash of a religion and slight anti-technological leanings. They were outright shown as pro-technology; they just forgot how to do it. The headwoman specifically mentioned that dude was actively trying to get the lights back on in the church.
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Jan 30, 2019 16:10
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TheCenturion posted:They were outright shown as pro-technology; they just forgot how to do it. The headwoman specifically mentioned that dude was actively trying to get the lights back on in the church. The religious leader lady made some reference to not making the same mistakes their ancestors had made, with their over reliance on technology. So electric light is okay, but phasers and spaceships probably not.
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Jan 30, 2019 16:23
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Phylodox posted:The religious leader lady made some reference to not making the same mistakes their ancestors had made, with their over reliance on technology. So electric light is okay, but phasers and spaceships probably not. They didn’t have those yet when they left. She probably meant nukes and the Internet
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Jan 30, 2019 16:37
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Yeah, weird y'all can't agree on what the villagers' philosophy was it's almost as if the episode was poorly written or something. Like they bring along bridge crew lady because her parents are Luddites so she can fit in with the primitivists, and then do they do any blending in? Does she help in this at all? No, Pike just says "We're from up north."
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Jan 30, 2019 16:37
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I kinda thought that was the point - making contact openly would have had completely unpredictable consequences, and it turns out visiting for half an hour and meeting three people isn't enough to decide the fate of an entire planet.
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Jan 30, 2019 16:46
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PostNouveau posted:Yeah, weird y'all can't agree on what the villagers' philosophy was it's almost as if the episode was poorly written or something. It's as specific as it needs to be. We know they're spiritual, setting up the conflict with Michael's rigorously logical nature, and we know they have a slightly anti-technological bent, thus establishing that introducing Discovery's contemporary machines and ideas would be, even beyond a violation of the Prime Directive, unwelcome and disruptive. The problem comes when people unnecessarily try to extrapolate their whole culture and society beyond the bounds of the episode.
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Jan 30, 2019 16:52
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PostNouveau posted:
I feel like Owosekun was brought along as a potential knowledge base/POV if needed.
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Jan 30, 2019 18:01
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Phylodox posted:Are you talking about the most recent episode of Discovery here? Because nothing about what we’re shown hinted at abuse or cultism.  Yes, the landing party got preached at, but hey, they showed up at a religious pilgrimage site, it's to be expected. And after telling them about the Word of All The Gods That Happened To Be There That Day, the townspeople were perfectly friendly and helpful, letting them spend the night right there in their holiest building and everything. (Well, okay, the one dude knocked them out and locked them in the basement but his motives were hardly cultish.)Phylodox posted:The religious leader lady made some reference to not making the same mistakes their ancestors had made, with their over reliance on technology. So electric light is okay, but phasers and spaceships probably not. I thought the mistakes in question had more to do with nuclear bombs than with astronauts. (I'd have to go back and watch the scene again to be sure though.) PostNouveau posted:Like they bring along bridge crew lady because her parents are Luddites so she can fit in with the primitivists, and then do they do any blending in? Does she help in this at all? No, Pike just says "We're from up north." Seems like she's opened a slide bolt from the inside before. Maybe her brother was a prankster and locked her in the barn all the time when they were kids.
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Jan 30, 2019 18:06
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Goddamnit, I've been doing a half-assed rewatch of the Dominion War stuff during weeknights, and since I'm on to season 7 of DS9 for the umpteenth time, this thread is making me crack and think I should finally give Discovery a shot. Seriously, though, put on DS9 while you're cooking. It makes it so much more fun.
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Jan 30, 2019 19:01
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Phylodox posted:The religious leader lady made some reference to not making the same mistakes their ancestors had made, with their over reliance on technology. So electric light is okay, but phasers and spaceships probably not. They were rescued from an ongoing battle during WW3. They don’t want to make that mistake again.
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Jan 30, 2019 19:03
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Apparently the Picard show is ‘a 10 hour movie’. 
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Jan 30, 2019 19:30
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I kind of like the alternate arrangement of Stealing the Enterprise that this recording has got going, but the only thing holding me back from really loving it is that the trumpets just do not sound like they're up to the part. They get off-tempo pretty frequently.
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