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StoicRomance
Jan 3, 2013

TheCenturion posted:

:thunk: If you throw a fundraiser to cover your gambling debt, but you're not sure if the fundraiser will raise the needed funds, is that gambling?

:psyboom:

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Welp.

https://twitter.com/StephenPunwasi/status/1090644111915245568

James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Russian nerd, sure, but I wouldn't assume a Russian troll - that account appears to make *many* thousands of edits, mostly (all?) to categorizations.

When I looked just now, it was in the middle of a huge burst of changes to things like regional songs and eurovision entries with 500+ changes in the last hour.

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Ghuron&offset=&limit=500&target=Ghuron

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

James Baud posted:

Russian nerd, sure, but I wouldn't assume a Russian troll - that account appears to make *many* thousands of edits, mostly (all?) to categorizations.

When I looked just now, it was in the middle of a huge burst of changes to things like regional songs and eurovision entries with 500+ changes in the last hour.

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Ghuron&offset=&limit=500&target=Ghuron

Why the gently caress else would you add "Canadian soldier" to Khadr's page other than to rile people up?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Russia knows how easily the alt-right eats poo poo like that up and is constantly feeding them poo poo like that to whip them into a tizzy.

StoicRomance
Jan 3, 2013

Honestly I would do this job. Give me a salary and benefits and I’ll modify Russian language Wikipedia entries on Kosovo to inflame public sentiments. I can do that job from the beach with a laptop and a mai tai. I’d whistle while I worked.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Wistful of Dollars posted:

Why the gently caress else would you add "Canadian soldier" to Khadr's page other than to rile people up?

If you’re a classification bot, he’s a soldier + Canadian = Canadian soldier. He wasn’t a soldier in the Canadian Forces, but that’s not the sole meaning of “Canadian soldier.”

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
Yeah there's just no explanation for why somebody would vandalize a wikipedia page other than state sponsored "active measures" by the Russian government. It's not like the very forums we're posting on used to be notorious for doing that poo poo all the time.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Arivia posted:

If you’re a classification bot, he’s a soldier + Canadian = Canadian soldier. He wasn’t a soldier in the Canadian Forces, but that’s not the sole meaning of “Canadian soldier.”

Much like Russian troll has an implied meaning and a literal one.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



James Baud posted:

Russian nerd, sure, but I wouldn't assume a Russian troll - that account appears to make *many* thousands of edits, mostly (all?) to categorizations.

When I looked just now, it was in the middle of a huge burst of changes to things like regional songs and eurovision entries with 500+ changes in the last hour.

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Ghuron&offset=&limit=500&target=Ghuron

Yes, what a peculiar thing to have happened.

Have you been living under a rock for the past few years?

gently caress, Canada really does just follow America's patterns.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

infernal machines posted:

Much like Russian troll has an implied meaning and a literal one.

a russian account with a facebook/zuckerberg quote

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Destabilizing the world with Wikipedia edits is something out of an Orson Scott Card story.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



infernal machines posted:

Destabilizing the world with Wikipedia edits is something out of an Orson Scott Card story.

Prey on the gullible to spread your bullshit.

James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Vintersorg posted:

Yes, what a peculiar thing to have happened.

Have you been living under a rock for the past few years?

gently caress, Canada really does just follow America's patterns.

Making 80,000 legitimate edits of marginally positive utility to poorly cover the Russian tracks of just a handful of psyops that might ["we have ways!"] get detected is pretty dedicated to creating a reasonable doubt about something that could have been addressed a lot easier by setting the "native language" to something useless like Flemish.

There's a monster in the closet!

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Ok, you keep putting your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes and going mawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwa while loving dumbshits in power like Andrew Scheer send out tweets and encourage their base to spread their disease across the internet.

mawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwamawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwamawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwamawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwamawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwamawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwa

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf
The russian guy classified him as a "Soldier" not "Canadian Solider", which is quite correct. He seems to like classifying things on Wikipedia, good for him.

Then Google got confused and mixed "Canadian" and "Solider" into "Canadian Solider" if you scrolled through the entries deep enough.

Calling a guy who was part of a combative force a 'solider' isn't terribly controversial, so it's a pretty weak troll.

Vintersorg posted:

Ok, you keep putting your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes and going mawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwa while loving dumbshits in power like Andrew Scheer send out tweets and encourage their base to spread their disease across the internet.

mawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwamawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwamawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwamawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwamawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwamawmamwmawmawmawmawmawmwa

What the everloving gently caress is this?

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Attribution in cybersecurity is fundamentally impossible. I could be writing this post from a Russian IP (currently I'm using New York.) And if I were a KGB agent, I probably wouldn't make Wikipedia edits from a naked IP.

Not to say that it was or wasn't a Russian influence attempt, but IP tracking is something that laypeople sometimes think is accurate, when it is very not.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



James Baud is ok in his ignorance. That's ok.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
People may find this article interesting, although only related in subject: https://wikipedia.fivefilters.org/

Coincidentally Philip Cross waited until 8 hours ago to re-enter the news, using Russian state media: https://www.rt.com/news/450154-rania-khalek-smear-campaign-wikipedia/

From another article:

quote:

“My view is that Philip Cross probably is a real person, but that he fronts for a group acting under his name. It is undeniably true, in fact the government has boasted, that both the MOD and GCHQ have “cyber-war” ops aiming to defend the “official” narrative against alternative news media, and that is precisely the purpose of the “Philip Cross” operation on Wikipedia. The extreme regularity of output argues against “Philip Cross” being either a one man or volunteer operation. I do not rule out however the possibility he genuinely is just a single extremely obsessed right wing fanatic.”

xtal fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jan 30, 2019

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

https://twitter.com/mattbraga/status/1090791447807315974

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
Khadr isn't not a Canadian soldier. He was both a soldier, and a Canadian, so I see no understanding of the English language where it's inaccurate to call him a Canadian soldier unless of course you dispute the notion he was a soldier at all. I believe he was a child soldier, thus placing him in the larger category of soldiers overall.

He isn't and wasn't a soldier in the Canadian Forces, but that's a separate issue.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

quote:

killing isn't an occupation

Well, sure, not if you do it for free.

Most people in the field are fairly well compensated, especially in the private sphere.

Yellow Ant
Feb 28, 2016

Dreylad posted:

I recently checked up on the survivors from the mosque shooting including the guy who couldn't walk again and was struggling with zero support after what rehabilitation was covered and people raised $400k for him to get an electric wheelchair and an accessible home. :unsmith:

This is wholesome, thanks for sharing :3


'Yes, I am Jason’s mother,’ says wig-wearing Kenney.

Yellow Ant fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Jan 31, 2019

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Yellow Ant posted:

This is wholesome, thanks for sharing :3



lol is that Kenney's hateful visage photoshopped onto a sweet old lady?

Yellow Ant
Feb 28, 2016

PT6A posted:

lol is that Kenney's hateful visage photoshopped onto a sweet old lady?

Sorry, added the link. You replied before I finished editing!

But yes it is.
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/0...ment-residence/

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

Vancouver's socialist Coalition of Progressive Electors councillor Jean Swanson joined with the arch-NIMBY Councillor Hardwick in voting against a motion to support the proposed Skytrain to UBC. That this vote came after an impassioned speech at the public hearing by a UBC area Safeway manager who described how hard it was for her low wage earning workers to commute into work with the existing insufficient bus is incredible. Swanson has betrayed the workers that voted for her and discredited herself.

https://twitter.com/fabulavancouver/status/1090786274477203456

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Yellow Ant posted:

Sorry, added the link. You replied before I finished editing!

But yes it is.
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/0...ment-residence/

Yeah, I saw that just after I replied.

I can identify corpulent nazis in drag with ease! :v:

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

Femtosecond posted:

Vancouver's socialist Coalition of Progressive Electors councillor Jean Swanson joined with the arch-NIMBY Councillor Hardwick in voting against a motion to support the proposed Skytrain to UBC. That this vote came after an impassioned speech at the public hearing by a UBC area Safeway manager who described how hard it was for her low wage earning workers to commute into work with the existing insufficient bus is incredible. Swanson has betrayed the workers that voted for her and discredited herself.

https://twitter.com/fabulavancouver/status/1090786274477203456

I love skytrain and transit systems in general, but it does seem like a hard sell to run one all the way through the endowment lands.

Skytrain to Arbutus then bridging the rest of the way with more dedicated buses would still be a huge service improvement.

Chicken
Apr 23, 2014

Nanaimo byelection is closer than I'd like, but the NDP should have it. 50% of the vote with 46 of 111 polling stations in.

CHEK News live update

sitchensis
Mar 4, 2009

:toot: great news!

B33rChiller
Aug 18, 2011




Looks like we dodged a bullet tonight folks.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

The Butcher posted:

I love skytrain and transit systems in general, but it does seem like a hard sell to run one all the way through the endowment lands.

Skytrain to Arbutus then bridging the rest of the way with more dedicated buses would still be a huge service improvement.

I tend to agree, but I wonder - my figures are a bit out of date but I think UBC had a 30,000 nighttime population and 120,000 in the day. That's a small city moving in and out of two main and two minor arteries every day and UBC just keeps pouring concrete.

Skytrain from my old place near Broadway and Main, rather than standing in the rain watching trolley after trolley go past packed to the gills? The mind boggles!

MikeSevigny
Aug 6, 2002

Habs 2006: Cristobal Persuasion
So now that the byelection is called and I can breathe again... how the hell did Mainstreet get the Liberals by THIRTEEN? In Nanaimo! Even they didn’t seem to believe their own poll.

I also would like to give a shout out to the Green voters, who appear to have gone hard for the NDP as green support collapsed. Thanks Greens, for making Andrew Wilkinson eat poo poo.

Edit: also the Georgia Strait called it for the Liberals, lol

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
I'm pretty sure the GS is like that Charlie Smith guy and 10 other people working out of an apartment at this point.

On the polling thing, it's hard enough as it is. Zero it down to a single riding and the respective budget you'd allocate for that, you aren't going to get great results.

Especially if you're mainly just doing the robocall thing. More and more people are finally learning to never pick up unknown number calls.

If you lean too heavy on that method you are going to be overwhelmingly getting only terminally bored retirees answering.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

LANDLORDS DIE / NANAIMO IS A gently caress/ Kill Em All 2019 / I am a Horg man / 410757864530 DEAD LIBS

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
Building the skytrain halfway to UBc is the dumbest loving idea. Build it the whole way and then upzone the poo poo out of that area. Transit needs to connect urban centres, a line the full way would do that, terminating the line at Arbutus does would be awful. I would take the skytrain to my job at UBC if it went all the way; if I had to get off and transfer on to a bus then gently caress that I’m still driving.

StoicRomance
Jan 3, 2013

MikeSevigny posted:

So now that the byelection is called and I can breathe again... how the hell did Mainstreet get the Liberals by THIRTEEN?

Mainstreet has a bunch of numbers on bingo balls and picks a random one to find margins. They’re loving crooks.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/mainstreet-polling-failure-calgary-election-naheed-nenshi-1.4442659

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

cowofwar posted:

Building the skytrain halfway to UBc is the dumbest loving idea. Build it the whole way and then upzone the poo poo out of that area.

Upzone the poo poo out of the urban half part by all means, but leave the giant chunk of forest alone.

We can't get that back.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

The Butcher posted:

Upzone the poo poo out of the urban half part by all means, but leave the giant chunk of forest alone.

We can't get that back.

Sorry do you mean the forest with three roads, a golf course, and mansions through it currently enjoyed only by wealthy single family homeowners?

And obviously there would be no way to build the skytrain along University Blvd given it is a two section road split by a large median conveniently the size of elevated rail pillars.

cowofwar fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Jan 31, 2019

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Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

cowofwar posted:

Building the skytrain halfway to UBc is the dumbest loving idea.

it's really not. vast majority of 99B trips are taken within the currently funded line, including the all-important Commercial to Cambie and Commercial to Granville slogs. all the way to UBC would be fantastic obviously but the current plan of stubbing it off at Arbutus is still a vast improvement for tons of commuters

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