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VanSandman posted:That's what gets me about when people say bad cops are 'a few bad apples.' As a culture we've completely forgotten the rest of the phrase which is 'ruins the whole barrel.' The protection of abusive cops by non-abusive ones makes the abusive ones complicit in their crimes. It's extra frustrating because it's not individuals, good or bad, that are the root cause of the problem. It's systemic. They're taught, as a mandatory part of their job, to trust their fellow officers with their lives. When push comes to shove and poo poo is going south, you trust your brothers in blue. They're also trained that civilians might be lying, or might be telling what they think is the truth but they're mistaken. So, do NOT implicitly trust what civilians tell you. ACAB on purpose.
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Relentless posted:It's extra frustrating because it's not individuals, good or bad, that are the root cause of the problem. It's systemic. Also the Hays Code in Hollywood demanded that narratives about corruption had to demonstrate that it was only an individual outlier and not a systemic problem between like 1930-1950 minimum, and the trend carried on from there.
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Anyone who has watched The Shield can tell you that cops protect their own because otherwise, like any gang, they'll kill you if you don't tow the line.
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Feb 1, 2019 21:50
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Relentless posted:It's extra frustrating because it's not individuals, good or bad, that are the root cause of the problem. It's systemic. These would both seem to be something that would present in any society that has police, yet many countries do not have the problems that the US has.
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Feb 2, 2019 01:36
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American cops are the only ones in so called developed countries trained to see the public as an enemy.
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Feb 2, 2019 01:38
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I think it's a effect of our Afghanistan -> local police pipeline
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Feb 2, 2019 01:44
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FoolyCharged posted:Wasn't the victim also a cop? They're not just protecting a bad cop here, they're protecting someone who killed one of their own. There is a very clear hierarchy of which blue lives matter. Whites matter more than blacks, Men matter more than women, Senior matters more than junior. A white male cop (drunk, on drugs, on duty but out of patrol area) shoots a female cop to death, the White Male gets the best representation, obstruction, and witness tampering the largest gang in America can muster, the Democratic mayor of the city will say "this bullshit story is totally the one we as an administration are going with". A black or muslim cop shoots a white lady, well, that black or muslim cop might just be catching some charges.
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Feb 2, 2019 03:02
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HootTheOwl posted:I think it's a effect of our Afghanistan -> local police pipeline Just because we call it the forever war doesn't mean it actually predates America's police problem. Also from what I've read, you'll thank your lucky stars to get an ex-military cop hassling you rather than a good ol' boy, makin' their way the only way they know how. Gyges fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Feb 2, 2019 |
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Gyges posted:Just because we call it the forever war doesn't mean it actually predates America's police problem. Might depend. There are a few stories of combat vets pushing back against the "lol shoot them if they are black" ROE that police operate under (and getting fired for it). But way way more MPs and motorpool vets who are looking for a chance to dress up and play soldier and git sum.
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Gyges posted:Just because we call it the forever war doesn't mean it actually predates America's police problem. https://www.npr.org/2016/12/08/504718239/military-trained-police-may-be-slower-to-shoot-but-that-got-this-vet-fired
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Feb 2, 2019 03:25
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Charlz Guybon posted:These would both seem to be something that would present in any society that has police, yet many countries do not have the problems that the US has. Most countries don't have methheads with assault rifles either.
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Feb 2, 2019 03:41
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Relentless posted:Most countries don't have methheads with assault rifles either. Cops are murdered at about the same rate as the rest of the population. It's a problem with a culture of racism and corruption dating back literally since the inception of police forces.
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Feb 2, 2019 03:48
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I just assumed he was referring to the cops there.
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Feb 2, 2019 06:42
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Relentless posted:
Most of them forget this but police officers are civilians too. I know it's semantics, but I think it's an important one.
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Alterian posted:Most of them forget this but police officers are civilians too. I know it's semantics, but I think it's an important one. Lol good luck convincing them of this
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Alterian posted:Most of them forget this but police officers are civilians too. I know it's semantics, but I think it's an important one. Tell them that.
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Wasn't Moscow designing new intermediate range weapons what started this whole chain of events in the first place. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1091634772324073473
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WTF? https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1091370746805399553 https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1091372700629721089
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Feb 2, 2019 10:56
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Money laundering? No, just not possible. Not Trump.
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Feb 2, 2019 13:00
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Money laundering? No, just not possible. If not Trump, then definitely all of his associates who recognize a sinking ship when they see one.
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Charlz Guybon posted:WTF? My crystal ball must be broken; it's keeps saying, "Deutsche Bank" over & over...
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Feb 2, 2019 15:21
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/02/politics/ronny-jackson-white-house-chief-medical-adviser/index.html So in other news Trump has apparently tapped who else but Ronny Jackson to be his Chief Medical Advisor. Assume so he can a bad loving Doctor and just bald face lie to him about his health prospects thus violating his Hippocratic oath. I assume Trump would just immediately fire any medical advisor that told him he was obese and needed to change his diet etc. anyway.
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Gyges posted:Just because we call it the forever war doesn't mean it actually predates America's police problem. From my understanding, soldiers acting as police in Afghanistan etc. have much more stringent limits on use of force than American cops do, which as far as I can tell can murder whoever they want if they "feel unsafe".
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Kale posted:https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/02/politics/ronny-jackson-white-house-chief-medical-adviser/index.html Is this post from 2019?
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HootTheOwl posted:Is this post from 2019? Yup. It's probably a sign that the pentagon investigation into Jackson isn't going well; "Chief Medical Advisor to the President" is a bullshit non-cabinet position that doesn't require any sort of confirmation process or, indeed, a medical degree. It's the kind of thing you might parachute into if you were about to
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Charlz Guybon posted:WTF? The Trump campaign was a blatant grift in 2016 and the GOP didn't care so I don't see why this will matter now.
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It's gonna be funny when Russia brags about having developed, flight tested, and fielded multiple brigades of previously banned weapons next week. Isn't this consistent with the position that social media companies are more akin to telecom providers or utilities than publishers?
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Dead Reckoning posted:Isn't this consistent with the position that social media companies are more akin to telecom providers or utilities than publishers? Yes. Until that implies that they should be regulated as such. Then it's free market free market free market
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Dead Reckoning posted:It's gonna be funny when Russia brags about having developed, flight tested, and fielded multiple brigades of previously banned weapons next week. Eagerly await Russia scoring a self goal when they have yet another nuclear accident. I think their track record with anything nuclear related is actually worse the the US, which is saying something.
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Dead Reckoning posted:It's gonna be funny when Russia brags about having developed, flight tested, and fielded multiple brigades of previously banned weapons next week. I don't know but I think I'm beginning to see more and more why twitter is as bad as it is the more that I hear about Jack Dorsey and his ideas and the lack of meaning or purpose he attaches to communication. The guy just kind of gives me the creeps all around and the more he talks the more it strikes me his definition of free speech is not altogether un-tethered from the alt-rights definition of "My sworn right to say hateful and bigoted things 24/7". By that I mean I still don't think he's an out and out Nazi supporter white nationalist by cause, I just think he lacks the ability to comprehend why hate speech shouldn't be signal boosted and how it's a bad look for Twitter all around when he just shrugs his shoulders indifferently about it and treats a barely concealed call for violence by the President as of the same value and harm level as someone tweeting about their dog doing something cute. All posting is just whatever to him, if it brings in revenue so be it. Trump and Obama same thing, some guys that are were presidents just saying stuff and it's "content" for twitter.
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Kale posted:I don't know but I think I'm beginning to see more and more why twitter is as bad as it is the more that I hear about Jack Dorsey and his ideas and the lack of meaning or purpose he attaches to communication. The guy just kind of gives me the creeps all around and the more he talks the more it strikes me his definition of free speech is not altogether un-tethered from the alt-rights definition of "My sworn right to say hateful and bigoted things 24/7". By that I mean I still don't think he's an out and out Nazi supporter white nationalist by cause, I just think he lacks the ability to comprehend why hate speech shouldn't be signal boosted and how it's a bad look for Twitter all around when he just shrugs his shoulders indifferently about it and treats a barely concealed call for violence by the President as of the same value and harm level as someone tweeting about their dog doing something cute. All posting is just whatever to him, if it brings in revenue so be it. Trump and Obama same thing, some guys that are were presidents just saying stuff and it's "content" for twitter. He individually does more to signal boost nazis than anyone else in the US wtf are you on about
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Feb 3, 2019 03:11
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In addition to being offensively ugly it turns out the Nike 270 is just offensive.
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HootTheOwl posted:In addition to being offensively ugly it turns out the Nike 270 is just offensive. I am not a Nike fan, but this is like the 3rd time in my lifetime that you've got some yahoos claiming some bullshit on some non-good Nike sneaker looks like the "Allah." This is probably some sneaker head scam to score some Off-Whites.
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Feb 3, 2019 04:04
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Then why is birdsite Jack still pissed off at Lowtax after a decade and several billion $ later?
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osker posted:I am not a Nike fan, but this is like the 3rd time in my lifetime that you've got some yahoos claiming some bullshit on some non-good Nike sneaker looks like the "Allah." This is probably some sneaker head scam to score some Off-Whites. Off-whites are even worse!
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A good thread on why dumping the INF Treaty is bad https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1091488251624546304
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Largest Confederate monument in the country shut down, klan too scared to show up to town. http://news2share.com/start/2019/02/02/armed-antifa-groups-march-in-stone-mountain-neo-confederates-dont-show/
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Anchor Wanker posted:Largest Confederate monument in the country shut down, klan too scared to show up to town. I disagree with them The antifa is saying to sandblast it, but I think the army should it for artillery practice
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