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landlords are basically cops but for your apartment and don't tell me i have to like a cop
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aardvaard posted:landlords are basically cops but for your apartment Are fictional cops okay? Because Ice T is the best
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Feb 2, 2019 17:20
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ice t is fine. ice cube better watch his back though.
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Feb 2, 2019 17:24
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Are farmers evil filth because they grow more food than they need and sell it for a profit?
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Feb 2, 2019 17:44
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Slippery posted:I'm also going to use capitalism to pay someone to be really nice to this guy all the time just because I feel like it would anger him to be made happy by capitalism I’ll be cool with whoever you hire, but I’ll hate you still. Worker solidarity bitch.
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Feb 2, 2019 17:53
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rydiafan posted:Are farmers evil filth because they grow more food than they need and sell it for a profit? Producing something and selling it to someone who wants it is not the same as owning something and allowing others to use it in exchange for ongoing payments. One is trade, the other is exploitation. In the case of trade both parties get something they want and walk away with it. In other other case one party is withholding something in order to extort payment from the other. It's like, if I have something you want and I offer to sell it to you, I'll get some money and you'll get the thing. But I could charge you that same amount of money and only agree to let you use the thing for a limited time, after which you'll have to pay me again to keep using it. I don't even want the thing, I'm just holding onto it to force you to keep paying me. If we were two kids in a schoolyard then the teachers would step in and put an end to that arrangement.
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Feb 2, 2019 17:54
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rydiafan posted:Are farmers evil filth because they grow more food than they need and sell it for a profit? farmers are doing something productive with the land, while landlords just occupy it.
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Feb 2, 2019 17:55
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:She is a transwoman fyi oh, poo poo, I did not realize, my apologies!
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rydiafan posted:Are farmers evil filth because they grow more food than they need and sell it for a profit? No, they are producing something. If a corn farmer bought all the local corn production centers so they could charge more than it is worth, then they would be.
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rydiafan posted:Are farmers evil filth because they grow more food than they need and sell it for a profit? No, they're evil filth because they grow more corn than anyone needs to live off of govt subsidies for growing it instead of what is actually needed, and they lobby and fight to keep things this way while complaining how hard their "honest" work is.
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Feb 2, 2019 18:00
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What about someone who owns one (1) home that they live in, but then have to move somewhere else for a limited time to support themselves or their family and rents out their home for the duration while renting from someone else themself? I wanna know if I'm morally required to stab my landlord
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Feb 2, 2019 18:00
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Gynocentric Regime posted:I’ll be cool with whoever you hire, but I’ll hate you still. Worker solidarity bitch. Understood. I shall dispatch Enrique immediately 
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Feb 2, 2019 18:07
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Waci posted:What about someone who owns one (1) home that they live in, but then have to move somewhere else for a limited time to support themselves or their family and rents out their home for the duration while renting from someone else themself? You don't have to be using a thing 24 hours a day, 365 days a year in order to claim that you own it for your own personal use. You can lend your property and you can accept compensation for that. The problem isn't with owning things, it's with owning things you don't even want for the specific purpose of making money by renting them out to other people. We're not setting out legislation here, just describing a general concept. You can come up with all the edge cases and hypotheticals you like but the principal is always the same. And I don't believe that stabbing anyone is a good, moral or productive idea.
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Feb 2, 2019 18:07
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Waci posted:What about someone who owns one (1) home that they live in, but then have to move somewhere else for a limited time to support themselves or their family and rents out their home for the duration while renting from someone else themself? I already said there were exceptions based on circumstance, including your exact anecdote as an example. By all means ya'll, keep trying prove to us that "actually, landlords good" with mockery and smug superiority; you've almost got us convinced.
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Feb 2, 2019 18:09
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I'm not disagreeing with owning multiple apartments for no purpose other than to make money being bad, did you read some post other than the one you quoted and replied to?Tiggum posted:You can come up with all the edge cases and hypotheticals you like Sandwich Anarchist posted:I already said there were exceptions based on circumstance, including your exact anecdote as an example. See these are entirely reasonable viewpoints (despite the impressive level of jumping at shadows), but they sure as hell don't match with Plastik posted:all landlords, every single one, is bad
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Feb 2, 2019 18:37
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Tiggum posted:Producing something and selling it to someone who wants it is not the same as owning something and allowing others to use it in exchange for ongoing payments. One is trade, the other is exploitation. In the case of trade both parties get something they want and walk away with it. In other other case one party is withholding something in order to extort payment from the other. This is the form that should be adopted in a socialist setting even, except that socialization is by default and mandated and the capital shell game is excised so you have your cake (a guaranteed place to live with upkeep minimized by socialization) and eat it too (don't need a capital parachute and you are free to pursue work that directly benefits the economy without excess administration of capital wealth).
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Feb 2, 2019 18:37
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 All X are bad Actually here's this example that's X but also not bad Well obviously I meant all X are bad except for the ones that are not WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO CLAIM ALL X ARE GOOD MANY OF THEM ARE CLEARLY BADRidiculous all-or-nothing oversimplifications don't help anyone and just make you annoying to listen to, even for people who agree with you.
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Feb 2, 2019 18:45
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Tiggum posted:You want to own six houses so that you can sit around collecting rent and contributing absolutely nothing of value? Go gently caress yourself. You can own a rental property and not intend to make money on it, such as by renting it to friends or family at cost or a loss. It happens.
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Feb 2, 2019 19:47
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Subjunctive posted:You can own a rental property and not intend to make money on it, such as by renting it to friends or family at cost or a loss. It happens. It has already been established itt that there are exceptions based on circumstance. Honestly, we should stop this derail.
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Feb 2, 2019 19:56
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:It has already been established itt that there are exceptions based on circumstance. Sounds like something a landlord would say.
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Feb 2, 2019 20:03
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PYF stupid lifehacks: derail the stupid lifehacks thread so you can post in it without needing to find new examples of stupid lifehacks
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Feb 2, 2019 20:41
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Life hack: Hack the Life out of your landlord and live rent free
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Feb 2, 2019 20:51
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CapitanGarlic posted:Life hack: Hack the Life out of your landlord and live rent free
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Feb 2, 2019 21:00
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Lifehacker: our heat is free so when it was -20 we just cranked it to 80 and let it go
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Feb 2, 2019 22:00
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Life hack: can't have a landlord if you live in a tent in the woods.
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Feb 2, 2019 22:03
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Lifehack, turn your landlord into a chilli if they make your apartment too chilly. Then sleep in your bowl so you can nap while you digest. https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/814684176125493248/pu/vid/480x480/Q6weyOtLbVuepUKd.mp4
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Feb 2, 2019 22:11
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LifeHack: Buy a house and hate your landlord even more for making such a stupid decision. (its you, you're the landlord)
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Feb 2, 2019 22:18
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Crimpolioni posted:You seem very unhappy. How's life in general? Wonderful, weird that you'd associate someone's opinions on predatory capitalism with their mood but here we are I guess.
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Feb 2, 2019 23:46
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I hate y'all.
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Feb 2, 2019 23:55
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Waci posted:See these are entirely reasonable viewpoints (despite the impressive level of jumping at shadows), but they sure as hell don't match with A landlord isn't someone who rents a property, it is someone who derives their income from renting a property. Someone who gets their financial security by exploiting the financial insecurity of others. Every single landlord, without exception, and every person who defends them, without exception (including you) should be up against a wall.
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Feb 2, 2019 23:57
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Karate Bastard posted:I hate y'all. Why, we're not landlords
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Slippery posted:Why, we're not landlords That's just what a landlord trying to avoid the guillotine would say.
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jobson groeth posted:That's just what a landlord trying to avoid the guillotine would say. Oh shi-
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:It has already been established itt that there are exceptions based on circumstance. Yeah, but I didn’t get to mention my exception. Not just gonna watch that go by!
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Plastik posted:A landlord isn't someone who rents a property, it is someone who derives their income from renting a property. Someone who gets their financial security by exploiting the financial insecurity of others. Every single landlord, without exception, and every person who defends them, without exception (including you) should be up against a wall. Life hack: make up your own definitions for words, so you can deliberately misunderstand people who use the word in its normal sense, and you can feel offended.
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Powered Descent posted:Life hack: make up your own definitions for words, so you can deliberately misunderstand people who use the word in its normal sense, and you can feel offended. Hey is your avatar from anything, other than being a neat picture of a rocket, because it's cool.
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Feb 3, 2019 02:54
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Powered Descent posted:Life hack: make up your own definitions for words, so you can deliberately misunderstand people who use the word in its normal sense, and you can feel offended. Plastik needs to learn the word “rentier” and then they can put “landlord” back where they found it.
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Feb 3, 2019 02:55
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Slippery posted:Hey is your avatar from anything, other than being a neat picture of a rocket, because it's cool. Thanks! An artist friend owed me a small favor, so I said "hey can you draw me a rocketship" and left the details up to her. Been using it as my av ever since.
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Subjunctive posted:Plastik needs to learn the word “rentier” and then they can put “landlord” back where they found it. It's a dude who pays someone for the right to live in a garret on the West Bank right?
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Plastik posted:Wonderful, weird that you'd associate someone's opinions on predatory capitalism with their mood but here we are I guess. Well, I suppose I don't really belive you, but if you won't talk about it I can't force you. Have a nice day in any case.
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