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If you talk to people (especially Nora/Lee) during some of those quests, especially the Dee-Dee Transport ones, the complain endlessly about the mayor adopting this technology. This comes up even more in the Ack questline too. I'm only half way through the story (just finished the bridge to the desert) so I don't know if it comes up more. So far it seems like there is definitely conflict there, but I'm glad I never have to pick a side (because then the church folk could get hosed).
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the Church sent me a lovely letter calling me a heretic for firing my poison gun. 
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Mordiceius posted:If you talk to people (especially Nora/Lee) during some of those quests, especially the Dee-Dee Transport ones, the complain endlessly about the mayor adopting this technology. This comes up even more in the Ack questline too. Ah, there you go. I only talked to them after I threw all the new stuff up, so I guess I didn't get to see that dialogue. Fair enough. Rynoto posted:The church isn't necessarily anti-research and technology - they're just afraid of the weapons that led to the annihilation of the former society. The entire reason they want your discs is to try and make sure no one ever rediscovers the technology required to build automatons and their weapons. It's why they're totally chill with you using the found research to build things and make people's lives better but also super wary when you start using the tech for fighting. I find it funny that they apparently have the omniscience to know I fired my gun off a few times in the sewer dungeon and write me a mean letter, but are apparently unaware I've been pumping more guns out to gift to Sam. 
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Feb 6, 2019 19:45
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It's also funny because Higgins is a church-goer.
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Kyrosiris posted:It's also funny because Higgins is a church-goer. Probably the most realistic aspect of his character.
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Feb 6, 2019 20:09
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And you can marry Nora. Wonder how that's supposed to work...
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Cythereal posted:And you can marry Nora. Wonder how that's supposed to work... She hums to herself while fertilizing the crops, pretending she can't see you across the yard cranking out guns and ammo.
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Cythereal posted:And you can marry Nora. Wonder how that's supposed to work... Her favorite gift is a bikini. 
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Sydin posted:She hums to herself while fertilizing the crops, pretending she can't see you across the yard cranking out guns and ammo. This would get even more hilarious after (late-game building spoilers) you put the drat Factory on your farm. Hell yeah, fully-robotic automated crafting! Wait where are you going, Nora?!
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Feb 6, 2019 20:24
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Speaking of gifting, are there any universal or near-universal liked gifts I can crank out to start befriending most of the populace Stardew-style?
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Feb 6, 2019 20:25
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Roses. Everyone except Ginger and the animals love them. They're a limited buy item though. The gems are pretty universal too but can be a challenge to amass.
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Feb 6, 2019 20:26
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Bouquet of roses are universally liked, and Alice sells 1 each day. I stock up the weeks leading up to a holiday so I can give lots of townspeople flowers and get that sweet multiplier.
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Awesome, thanks. I'll start remembering to stockpile. I assume they're not something you can grow?
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Sydin posted:Awesome, thanks. I'll start remembering to stockpile. I assume they're not something you can grow? Negatory. Topaz are the closest to a mass-obtainable semi-universal like, giving +4 to basically everyone (+6 to Martha, +1 to Ginger).
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Mordiceius posted:Her favorite gift is a bikini. Nah, wiki says the bikini is only with 12 points. For 25 there's the Waiting Girl Music Box and for 20 the Goddess Statue.
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Tooled around with this a long time ago during early access, but decided to reboot for a new game with the release version out. Hopefully this time the wedding cutscene has sound, it was a bit eerie months ago when I got married and it was just completely silent while Nora played the piano and all. I just love all the little QoL stuff that's sprinkled throughout the game, and the new holidays are pretty neat too.Mordiceius posted:If you talk to people (especially Nora/Lee) during some of those quests, especially the Dee-Dee Transport ones, the complain endlessly about the mayor adopting this technology. This comes up even more in the Ack questline too. I feel like this may be overstated, I recall talking to Lee and Nora during the Dee-Dee questline and their attitude seems to be "well we're cautious but these aren't weapons so I guess it's okay". I can't remember if that was before or after I installed them though.
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Sydin posted:
There are places where Lee and Nora end up disagreeing, where Nora says, "Tech can be good for our lives, we just have to watch out for it being weaponized and stop that" and Lee says, "Any tech can turn out to be a weapon, remember the dancing robot, we're all doomed if we don't destroy all tech" so I think Lee is just way more of a fanatic on the issue than most church-goers or even necessarily other preachers. But yeah, you'd think he'd get pissy over all your building, but apparently if you're not directly building and using rifles, it's okay
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becoming increasingly convinced springs are a town-wide troll on the new builder
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I think so
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For people who like this game as well as survival games go check out the devs previous game, planet explorers. It has similar chill-out tone with neat features (there's an ingame CAD system which lets you make armor and weapons, vehicles, guns, decorations, robots and turrets, etc.; and there's a fleshed-out NPC system for making colonies). Can't link because I'm phonesposting from bed, but it's on steam. I've spent an absurd amount of time on it. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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You can't find springs? Hazardous Ruins in the Collapsed wasteland has enemies that drop them and you can find them in Abandoned Ruins 2. edit: I got Planet Explorers years ago and it was really bad.
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Zesty posted:edit: I got Planet Explorers years ago and it was really bad. It's not the best game ever. I work with CAD software at work so that's probably why I enjoyed it. The CAD implementation in the game is a bit rudimentary, hard to use and the way the design geometries translate into stats is somewhat gamey, but it's nuch more capable than any other similar in-game editor I know. As a survival game it's a bit meh I admit. More action adventure than survival anyway, as actually surviving is trivial. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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Feb 7, 2019 01:10
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Too bad Mali isn't date able, she's a badass. She would have made a great Akuma type boss in the martial arts tournament.
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Verviticus posted:becoming increasingly convinced springs are a town-wide troll on the new builder i don't know how someone would have issues with getting them when certain enemies in the early dungeons are basically just outright guaranteed to drop at least one
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Yeah it's not like early-ish beta where you were pretty much forced to spec into extra drops. Dungeons are packed with loot now.
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Yeah I expected the Dee Dee requests to be a grind but I got all the small engines I needed in a couple dungeon runs. Was a pleasant surprise.
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it's very simple to duck into early dungeoncrawling content with the most basic gear more or less. the boss of the sewers can be easily baited into certain attacks. what i'm saying is that everyone should take the time to do a few runs once they have maybe like the level 2 wooden sword at the least to speed things up a little. dungeon runs take a set amount of hours no matter how long you take to do them so it's easy to work them into a schedule.
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Johnny Joestar posted:it's very simple to duck into early dungeoncrawling content with the most basic gear more or less. the boss of the sewers can be easily baited into certain attacks. Also the dodge roll is incredible, you get so many iframes.
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skeleton warrior posted:There are places where Lee and Nora end up disagreeing, where Nora says, "Tech can be good for our lives, we just have to watch out for it being weaponized and stop that" and Lee says, "Any tech can turn out to be a weapon, remember the dancing robot, we're all doomed if we don't destroy all tech" so I think Lee is just way more of a fanatic on the issue than most church-goers or even necessarily other preachers. Yeah, the Church's point of view seems to be less "technology is bad" and more "technology almost ended the loving world so maybe let's be cautious with it and make sure we use it well and responsibly." Even things like factories aren't inherently evil so long as the people in charge of those factories can be trusted not to use them to start mass-producing nuclear weapons or something, essentially.
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AG3 posted:If you have an excess of Eye Glass you can just make the Magnifying Glass. If you have some of those and hit the middle mouse button while inspecting, it'll light up the error on the item. I find it pretty much mandatory later on, especially on errors that are only really visible if you look at them from a very specific angle. Thanks. I entirely forgot about the Magnifying Glass and never even knew how it worked after I got one the first time.
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Man, I really tried to be diligent but I wasn't able to get #1 until like halfway through month 3. For real, though, gently caress Higgins.
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parabolic posted:Man, I really tried to be diligent but I wasn't able to get #1 until like halfway through month 3. For real, though, gently caress Higgins. I just finally got #1 and I'm half way through winter.
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Main thing is to be number 1 by the end of the year. The seasonal prizes for 1st place are nice, but the year end prize is the real windfall, 30,000 gols plus tons of relic fragments.
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Yeah getting to rank 1 can be a bit rough first time along. making GBS threads on higgins in spring 1 is stupidly satisfying though if you do another save.
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Aw man, I was hoping it wouldn't be some giant prize. I'm halfway through fall and trailing a solid 2k points and don't feel like I'm making headway.
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Saxophone posted:Aw man, I was hoping it wouldn't be some giant prize. I'm halfway through fall and trailing a solid 2k points and don't feel like I'm making headway. You can still easily beat him. For me, late fall was when I took off and I went from down about 2k to JUST behind him by Winter. Just make sure to go every day to do commissions, and remember that you can do 1 story commission AND 1 random commission at a time. Get 2-3 furnaces making carbon steel constantly and never stop.
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I've been doing that, but man those bridge parts are just soul crushing to make at 40 something steel bars per order.
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haldolium posted:Thanks. I entirely forgot about the Magnifying Glass and never even knew how it worked after I got one the first time. I didn't either at first; I thought it was a passive item due to how obvious the very earliest flaws are, and when I got to the really hard ones later I was like "boy am I glad I have the Magnifying Glass now, otherwise this would've been even worse!". Then a few hours later the brain kicked in about that whole number of Magnifying Glasses held up top of the screen, then I noticed the button mapping list at the bottom 
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So should I not be turning all of my carbon steel right around into steel plates? Seemingly everything needs them right now so I've got three industrial furnaces working full time on carbon steel, and three cutters churning out steel plates.
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Saxophone posted:I've been doing that, but man those bridge parts are just soul crushing to make at 40 something steel bars per order. I don’t know if I was pushing too hard to get ahead of him but I passed Higgins at the end of summer Y1. I was running 4 basic furnaces, 8 civil furnaces, 4 industrial furnaces, and 2 electric furnaces. Now in the middle of winter I’m like three or four thousand points ahead of him if I am remembering correctly. Biggest piece of advice I can give is stockpile bars to use in commissions. I have around 400 of each metal bar sitting around at any time and generally double that for carbon steel since that’s used so much.
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