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If you were playing from a true numerical standpoint picking dragoon would be very stupid considering they have less potency in an entire combo than samurai does with 2 spells they get at level 4 (and no positionals)
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Dragoons are cool because they use disembowel for me. Battle litany and dragon sight are cool too I guess.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:01
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strong bird posted:If you were playing from a true numerical standpoint picking dragoon would be very stupid considering they have less potency in an entire combo than samurai does with 2 spells they get at level 4 (and no positionals) Yes, but DRG also adds like 500 DPS to every other person in the raid.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:03
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BrightWing posted:Question. What exactly makes Noct AST so unappealing for raid? My team has a WHM that really would rather not switch (and we're big on everyone playing what makes them happy), so I was just curious about the specifics. I know it doesn't have the shear healing output of a SCH but I figure the only time you're really seriously running Noct AST is with a WHM and WHM just shits heals so I figure it kinda just works out? Tell me more. Diurnal pumps out much more raw healing, meaning you have to spend less time and MP casting heals and spending more time and MP pushing damage. Shields are nice in some circumstances (stopping people from getting one-shot, for instance), but for the most part you're better off taking the regens. It also synergizes with their buff-extending spells - increasing HoT duration increases the heal, but there isn't really any benefit to extending the shield's duration. And yeah, Noct shields are bigger than SCH shields (aside from Adlo crits). The single-target ones are also instant cast, which is nice. The good news is that Diurnal HoTs stack with WHM HoTs, so you can experiment with the two sects and see which works better for your static/whatever fight you're doing.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:09
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strong bird posted:If you were playing from a true numerical standpoint picking dragoon would be very stupid considering they have less potency in an entire combo than samurai does with 2 spells they get at level 4 (and no positionals) We provide quite a bit of rdps, though. How much depends on the rest of the party comp, granted. But everything is fairly well balanced in terms of overall contribution. Doesn't Samurai have positionals for building kenki? I don't know a whole lot about that job yet, honestly.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:10
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Zack Ater posted:We provide quite a bit of rdps, though. How much depends on the rest of the party comp, granted. But everything is fairly well balanced in terms of overall contribution. Gekko and Kasha have positionals but it doesn't affect the potency, only kenki generation.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:11
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Zack Ater posted:We provide quite a bit of rdps, though. How much depends on the rest of the party comp, granted. But everything is fairly well balanced in terms of overall contribution. SAM have two positionals that grant 5 kenki regardless, or 10 total for the positional. It's 40 kenki off the whole rotation, or 50 if you score positional bonuses as well. It's not crushing if you miss.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:12
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Kenki basically converts directly to potency though between kaiten and shiten.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:14
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I think I worked SAM positionals out to be basically the exact same as any other, 40 potency or something.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:16
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Vargatron posted:Yes, but DRG also adds like 500 DPS to every other person in the raid. That isn't their first combo.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:18
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strong bird posted:That isn't their first combo. What?
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Feb 7, 2019 22:24
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Mymla posted:I think I worked SAM positionals out to be basically the exact same as any other, 40 potency or something. It's a little higher because 5 kenki is 1/5th of a Shiten (60 potency,) 1/3rd a seigan (66.666 etc. potency,) 1/10th a Guren (80 potency,) and 1/5th a Kyuten ( Which makes sense considering you only have two of them and they get full combo damage regardless. SAM is good and fun. EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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Feb 7, 2019 22:30
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:SAM have two positionals that grant 5 kenki regardless, or 10 total for the positional. It's 40 kenki off the whole rotation, or 50 if you score positional bonuses as well. It's not crushing if you miss. True, but a sam who ignores positions completely is missing out on a lot of kenkis over the course of a fight. It's a lot more forgiving of occasional stabs to the wrong side than other melee jobs, but it's worth it to try to hit them as much as possible anyway. EponymousMrYar posted:1/5th a Kyuten (30 x 3+ targets or 90+ potency.) Don't cut my buddy Kyuten short! quote:SAM is good and fun. This is correct. Thundarr fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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Feb 7, 2019 22:33
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Yeah actually looking at the numbers missing even 4 positionals as SAM is a pretty hefty hit.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:39
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Personally I go shields for trash pulls, regen for bosses, and whatever the opposite of my partner is in 8/24 man. For cards, generally: royal road spire and ewer, spread spear and balance, minor arcana arrow and bole.
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I was expecting one of his silly videos, but this Larryzaur class overview is actually quite good (and actually serious): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwQf6H7ESo4
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Dang that is actually a super cool short overview of each class and their playstyles. Put that in the OP.
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The  emote but a lalafell
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My eyes rolled right the gently caress out of my head.
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this is why redditors still think the garleans are the good guys
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Final Fantasy has always had problems with people finding the bad guys much cooler than the collection of whiny emo babies that are the usual protagonists.
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"Lol imaginary gods" in a setting with evil space wizards and a war between divine crystals of light and darkness
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Vargatron posted:Gekko and Kasha have positionals but it doesn't affect the potency, only kenki generation. Thats just potency stored up
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Cythereal posted:Final Fantasy has always had problems with people finding the bad guys much cooler than the collection of whiny emo babies that are the usual protagonists.
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Glagha posted:"Lol imaginary gods" in a setting with evil space wizards and a war between divine crystals of light and darkness no no you see those are real gods, like jordan peterson
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Cythereal posted:Final Fantasy has always had problems with people finding the bad guys much cooler than the collection of whiny emo babies that are the usual protagonists. So have you ever played any Final Fantasy games, or...?
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Feb 8, 2019 00:19
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Cythereal posted:Final Fantasy has always had problems with people finding the bad guys much cooler than the collection of whiny emo babies that are the usual protagonists. yeah i can't think of a single final fantasy protagonist people like,
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I have so many things I want to say to this, but I'll just  and be done with it.
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Trasson posted:So have you ever played any Final Fantasy games, or...? X was my introduction to the series. And I played 7 last year because friends insisted. I loved X's world design, but the ostensible protagonist was one of the worst video game protagonists I've ever seen (unless you subscribe to the theory that Yuna's the real protagonist, which I feel has merit). X-2 is the only single player Final Fantasy I've really enjoyed across the board.
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Feb 8, 2019 00:29
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I genuinely wish I understood why people hated Tidus. There are so many worse characters from X. 
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Feb 8, 2019 00:31
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Tidus is cool. Tidus has always been cool.
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Feb 8, 2019 00:32
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This dragon really needs a nidhug.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I genuinely wish I understood why people hated Tidus. There are so many worse characters from X.
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Feb 8, 2019 00:46
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It's because he's a jock
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Feb 8, 2019 00:49
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Is there a way to find all of the Blue+ Quests without going to each individual area?
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DontMindMe posted:Is there a way to find all of the Blue+ Quests without going to each individual area?
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homeless snail posted:The laughing scene went way over people's heads, is mostly why Relax Or DIE posted:It's because he's a jock Also he's rather dumb and doesn't really come into his own until the latter half of the game where he stops being a dumb jock and starts being the actual protagonist. At least he's not dumb enough to have one of his most uttered phrases be 'Huh!?' though. (that's the ff4 sequel's protagonist by the way.) (his name is Ceodore) (he says huh a lot) (it's not very good)
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I genuinely wish I understood why people hated Tidus. There are so many worse characters from X. He's definitely got some pent up daddy issues and his English voice was kinda grating but I would never call him a whiner. (Yuna really is the main character of X though)
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