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counterspin posted:I love Fiona and my immediate response was that I could get into Mercs, but my recent frustrations with there not being any communication from PP about updates to the pigs half of Minions stuff makes me not want to put money into a faction with an undefined release schedule. If you even think you might be annoyed by that, steer well loving clear.
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counterspin posted:I love Fiona and my immediate response was that I could get into Mercs, but my recent frustrations with there not being any communication from PP about updates to the pigs half of Minions stuff makes me not want to put money into a faction with an undefined release schedule. To be fair Talion Charter (the Pirates/Fiona theme) is in CID right now which means that they have more than a few models coming out soon. A new caster, some new jacks, and a handful of solos.
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Feb 7, 2019 00:27
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I had high hopes when they announced whatever the smaller board version was when MKIII started. It was supposed to play faster. Then we tried it and were disappointed. I would really be interested in a much smaller model count, more skirmish style version. What I really want is an additional set of cards where individual models/units do more things/have more options and you take way fewer figs in total. The current game just seems too much right now. Oh well.
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Feb 7, 2019 00:46
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I think a big chunk of that feeling comes from having to individually manage each model in a unit. Running infantry heavy armies can be a chore. In a theoretical mk4 I feel like streamlining unit actions should be a major goal.
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Feb 7, 2019 01:18
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Doing something about the way terrain works to prevent having to measure 3.2" of movement to the forest then move the remaining 1.4" at half speed would be good. The game is so geometry-heavy that minute positioning of models is important but that takes forever.
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Feb 7, 2019 03:10
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counterspin posted:I love Fiona and my immediate response was that I could get into Mercs, but my recent frustrations with there not being any communication from PP about updates to the pigs half of Minions stuff makes me not want to put money into a faction with an undefined release schedule. Not sure what you mean? CID schedule is mostly based on production. New models from CID have always been coming out a few months after the CID ends.
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Feb 7, 2019 03:35
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My feelings on weaponized geometry depend on the scale. And if it's supposed to be part of the game. I'm pretty okay with it if the model count is low and the time it takes is built into the game.
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Feb 7, 2019 03:55
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Cross-posting from the mini thread. I haven't been playing a lot, lately - but I love playing smaller games in a journeyman league. Warmachine has so many variables, I feel like it takes years to master!   
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Feb 7, 2019 03:57
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Crab-Stuffed posted:Cross-posting from the mini thread. I haven't been playing a lot, lately - but I love playing smaller games in a journeyman league. Warmachine has so many variables, I feel like it takes years to master! jesus christ that's pretty
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Feb 7, 2019 05:11
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Crab-Stuffed posted:Cross-posting from the mini thread. I haven't been playing a lot, lately - but I love playing smaller games in a journeyman league. Warmachine has so many variables, I feel like it takes years to master! Amazing job. No hat, though?
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Feb 7, 2019 07:09
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S.J. posted:Not sure what you mean? CID schedule is mostly based on production. After Talion should be Infernals for their June release. Do we know what's up on the docket after that?
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Feb 7, 2019 13:11
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S.J. posted:Not sure what you mean? CID schedule is mostly based on production. New models from CID have always been coming out a few months after the CID ends. I mean that with a new faction every year chewing up a ton of production and CID time, it feels like pigs will never get a CID, particularly now that we've reached a point where a 'limited' faction has gotten two passes.
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Feb 7, 2019 14:22
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Pigs are part and parcel with Gators and they had their CID a year and a half ago.
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Feb 7, 2019 15:47
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It'll only be another year and a half minimum if you wanted to play brigands, commandoes, slaughterhousers, or thornfall alliance theme  Edit: This came across a little snarkier than I intended, I'm glad old models get changes even if some people feel left out because of the way they do it Captainicus fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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Feb 7, 2019 16:06
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I imagine that we might get a Farrow CiD this year or next. Infernals is up next so they can release the models for Lock and Load. I’d imagine they would start that fairly soon. Maybe in March? Ret could use one first and they have teased wanting to do a Doom Reaver theme expansion. I think Hungerford said no Steamroller cid plans as well and the Riot Quest models aren’t hitting CiD either. After the Privateer fiasco last year, Oz has made it a point to not announce future CiDs unless the production and release schedule is locked down. Can’t say that I blame that decision. I just really want to get a Well of Orboros though. There must be a snag with production (not that I’m really surprise. It’s one of the most intricate models to date) causing the delay.
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Feb 7, 2019 16:57
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Yeah, I feel sorry for ret players: they're a full faction with a model count closer to a minifaction
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Feb 7, 2019 17:00
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Yeah, as a ret player, we're just in an odd place right now. Our warcaster bench isn't as deep as the big boy factions but we've got some good pairings Rahn's value continues to dwindle as more immune to knockdown or push effects come out Rayvn has game but there's a lot of overlap with Issyria, Ossyan and Kaelyssa. We should probably throw Garryth 2 in there as well but I haven't gotten a ton of time with him Garryth 1, Vyros1 and Thyron don't have a consistent enough game plan to warrant taking over the others. They also lack ways to protect their armies Helynna is in an odd spot where she's got a lot of defensive tech but tends to lose steam over the course of a match. She also wants to take jacks but Forges prevents her from taking Vyre warjacks Elara 2, Goreshade 4 and Vyros 2 are solid and different enough variants of melee casters
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Feb 7, 2019 17:58
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darnon posted:After Talion should be Infernals for their June release. Do we know what's up on the docket after that? Nah, they haven't said anything about what's coming up after that. Although like I told someone in my meta this week: I'll end up buying most of the infernals factions to use as monsters in D&D so gently caress me... counterspin posted:I mean that with a new faction every year chewing up a ton of production and CID time, it feels like pigs will never get a CID, particularly now that we've reached a point where a 'limited' faction has gotten two passes. Yeah, I'd be on board with seeing a Pig rework later this year for sure. I had thought you were saying you didn't want to buy into pirates because of gators and I was very confused. Personally I like the Pig aesthetic and casters way more than the gators and it's sad to see them floundering. S.J. fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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Feb 7, 2019 18:08
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Crab-Stuffed posted:Cross-posting from the mini thread. I haven't been playing a lot, lately - but I love playing smaller games in a journeyman league. Warmachine has so many variables, I feel like it takes years to master! This is so, so dope.
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 the LVO prerelease models available this weekend from the local discord. koreban fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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Feb 7, 2019 20:28
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Still no Sorscha 0 
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Feb 7, 2019 20:30
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Initiates of the order of the wall, hell yea
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Feb 7, 2019 20:50
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With the demise of No Quarter prime, where are they putting fluff for new units? Just not doing it?
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Feb 7, 2019 21:24
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mp5 posted:Initiates of the order of the wall, hell yea I hope they kept shield wall, they make for some juicy free points in faithful masses
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Mashing F5 for the war room update so I can build a new Faithful Masses list with all the paladins
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Excelsiortothemax posted:Still no Sorscha 0 The models at LVO are listed in the Privateer Press February and March release schedule. April's has been posted, but doesn't have Sorscha0 on it either, so May would be the earliest. Discountgamesinc's facebook page posts the upcoming retailer lists for PP products, which is where I go for that info. According to WMU Sorscha0 was done in the Crucible Guard CID 2018.04, so May would be a year out and the other 3 are basically out now that Denny0's model is dropping.
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The new Privateer light jack, The Swashbuckler, has a melee weapon that, when it hits, makes the jack's ranged attacks auto hit. The model has 'dual attack' but I don't see a way to actually fire at a model it's engaged with; am I reading that correctly? Wouldn't the model need gunfighter for this to work?
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Feb 7, 2019 22:10
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Dual attack has "This model can make ranged attacks even while in melee." on it.
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Feb 7, 2019 22:19
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xiw posted:Dual attack has "This model can make ranged attacks even while in melee." on it. Yeah, but I still thought you couldn't shoot models you were engaged by/with? Doesn't this just let you shoot out of combat? Gato The Elder fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Feb 7, 2019 |
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fashionly snort posted:Yeah, but I still thought you couldn't shoot models you were engaged by/with? Doesn't this just let you shoot out of combat? No. You can shoot your melee target just fine.
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Also you're still shooting into melee so if you miss a non-huge-base you'll reroll against a new target as usual. I just had a look at the wiki spreadsheet and it was interesting to realize that if i miss my target and shoot my adjacent buddy who's also in the fight, they still get +4 def because I can't ever be in melee with a friendly model.
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Prerelease models up on WarRoom. Where's my Adjunct and Sorscha0 models at, PP? 
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Initiates of the Wall 7 points SPD 6, MAT 6, DEF 13, ARM 15, PS12 2 Inch Magical weapon Practiced Maneuvers, Set Defense, Shield Guard, and Unbreakable Wall These guys might be really good and 21 free points is no joke in a Faithful Masses list
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mp5 posted:Initiates of the Wall Yeah our resident Menoth Boi has already built his max paladin/initiate harbinger list and I'm not looking forward to it.
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Feb 8, 2019 19:46
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I mean harby/paladin dream team has been the ask since mk1. It took over a decade but we are finally here
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S.J. posted:Yeah our resident Menoth Boi has already built his max paladin/initiate harbinger list and I'm not looking forward to it. Testament might also be insane, reviving shield guards every turn
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No Sorcha0 on May’s release list. The new Talion Charter jacks and powder monkey are there though.
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:I mean harby/paladin dream team has been the ask since mk1. It took over a decade but we are finally here This dude did really, really well with harby/paladins all through Mk 2 so I'm genuinely terrified to see how this ends up. But also very happy for him. And you, I guess
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Oh yeah paladins and vilmon have always been good with Harby. Keeping something that's already hard to kill; alive longer is annoying af to most opponents If it weren't for Garryth2, those initiates might have pulled me back over
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