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NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



I am interested in hearing more grunge. I am re-experiencing my old love pro wrestling from the 80s and 90s and it inspired me to learn more about some music..

I only really know about Nirvana because of course I heard their big hits back when I listened to the radio. Can anybody here recommend bands and albums? Also I tend to like female vocalists so if there are any grunge bands you'd recommend with one that be cool.

Thank you.

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Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.
Grunge was like six bands, of which Nirvana was the best and Mudhoney the other good one. Just look at Wikipedia. Listen to L7 and Breeders, they have female singers

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

NikkolasKing posted:

Also I tend to like female vocalists so if there are any grunge bands you'd recommend with one that be cool.

Veruca Salt was actually pretty decent, although it doesn't hurt that they bit off the Breeders (who own) pretty hard. Hole never really did much for me, but they also fit the bill- Live Through This is their best album.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

NikkolasKing posted:

I am interested in hearing more grunge. I am re-experiencing my old love pro wrestling from the 80s and 90s and it inspired me to learn more about some music..

I only really know about Nirvana because of course I heard their big hits back when I listened to the radio. Can anybody here recommend bands and albums? Also I tend to like female vocalists so if there are any grunge bands you'd recommend with one that be cool.

Thank you.

Best lesser-known grunge-y albums:

Local H - As Good As Dead
Veruca Salt - American Thighs (female fronted, this is a fantastic album)
Hole - Live Through This (Kurt Kobain's wife's group, album has been long rumored / assumed to be largely written by Kurt Kobain)
Soundgarden - Superunknown (not actually lesser known but you didn't mention them so I'll include it)
Stone Temple Pilots - Core (again, not lesser known and got flak for being a bit derivative of Pearl Jam but some killer tunes)
Pearl Jam - 10 (not lesser known)
Alice in Chains - Dirt (grunge-ish, though hardcore fans of the band will riot if you say that to them)

Great non-grunge albums from the same era:
Beck - Mellow Gold
Faith No More - Angel Dust (arguably the best early 90s rock album)
Pixies - Surfer Rosa (direct predecessor to Nirvana)
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Tool - Opiate, Undertow
Bikini Kill and Babes in Toyland - female bands in the riot grrl genre. Distant cousin to grunge? Listen to the track Bruise Violet and you'll know right away if you're into this style

Other artists to look into:
Dinosaur Jr
Melvins
Sonic Youth
Mudhoney
Cracker

~SpOoKy fact~ There are 5 bands that were primarily associated with the grunge movement in popular culture -- Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, and Stone Temple Pilots. Of those, 4 of their lead singers died either due to drug ODs or suicide.

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Feb 9, 2019

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

NikkolasKing posted:

I am interested in hearing more grunge. I am re-experiencing my old love pro wrestling from the 80s and 90s and it inspired me to learn more about some music..

I only really know about Nirvana because of course I heard their big hits back when I listened to the radio. Can anybody here recommend bands and albums? Also I tend to like female vocalists so if there are any grunge bands you'd recommend with one that be cool.

Thank you.

Grunge was really more of a scene than a music genre so the artists can get pretty dissimilar but here it goes.

The rest of the Big Four:
Soundgarden - Superunknown; Badmotorfinger
Pearl Jam - Ten; Vs.
Alice In Chains - Dirt; Jar of Flies EP

Other notable names:
Temple of the Dog - Temple of the Dog (supergroup of Pearl Jam and Soundgarden)
Mother Love Bone - Apple (featured members of Pearl Jam)
Mudhoney - Superfuzz Bigmuff Plus Early Singles
Mad Season - Above (supergroup of Alice In Chains and Screaming Trees)

Good bands that only grunge obsessives care about :
Tad - 8-way Santa
Skin Yard - 1000 Smiling Knuckles
Malfunkshun - Return to Olympus

There isn’t a lot of female fronted stuff that’s considered part of the grunge scene, but a lot of riot grrrl had a similar sound to what was coming out of grunge and has the same ties to the Pacific Northwest. Try these bands out:
Babes in Toyland - Fontanelle
Team Dresch - Personal Best
Bikini Kill - Pussy Whipped

Misc
Sep 19, 2008

Ras Het posted:

Grunge was like six bands, of which Nirvana was the best and Mudhoney the other good one. Just look at Wikipedia. Listen to L7 and Breeders, they have female singers

:hai:

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


I don't know if the Melvins really count as grunge, but they had a pretty big influence on the Seattle scene around that time.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

ultrafilter posted:

I don't know if the Melvins really count as grunge, but they had a pretty big influence on the Seattle scene around that time.

They're like an honorary grunge band because they knew everybody but Houdini is really their only attempt at a similar sound to any of them.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



If I know literally NOTHING about electronic music, but I really like Witch House (Glass Teeth, Ritualz, Master Suspiria Vision), where do I go from there? I really like the dark, psychedelic sounds. Less into the poppier side.

EDIT: I realized I phrased that poorly, I'm looking for similar genres, not more witch house artists.

Kvlt! fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Feb 11, 2019

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


Kvlt! posted:

If I know literally NOTHING about electronic music, but I really like Witch House (Glass Teeth, Ritualz, Master Suspiria Vision), where do I go from there? I really like the dark, psychedelic sounds. Less into the poppier side.

EDIT: I realized I phrased that poorly, I'm looking for similar genres, not more witch house artists.

Oneohtrix point never would probably be my default suggestion for that kind of thing, esp this album and r plus seven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WejD5fPTBE

vaporwave was the genre the always online dorks listened to when witch house became uncool. i haven't listened to much of that besides blank banshee though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm0718TRRQA
(epilepsy warning probably)

obviously opn also made that eccojams album that basically spawned vaporwave altogether, but idk if it has the sound you're looking for. check it out i suppose


Also just thought of blanck mass. no idea what genre to put him in but w/e.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIwuRIclivM

Hooplah fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Feb 11, 2019

LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


If you want something more danceable but with some of that dark psychadelic sound REZZ is right up your alley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV5BjXgaFvI

SpiritualDeath
Jul 2, 2009

shaping your brain like pottery
Two grunge-y female-fronted bands I can recommend are Star Pimp and The Gits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0sfkyd28u0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEu8xhU4GSQ

cardedagain
Aug 28, 2006

No mention of early Smashing Pumpkins?

baberaham lincoln
Nov 19, 2008

Kvlt! posted:

If I know literally NOTHING about electronic music, but I really like Witch House (Glass Teeth, Ritualz, Master Suspiria Vision), where do I go from there? I really like the dark, psychedelic sounds. Less into the poppier side.

EDIT: I realized I phrased that poorly, I'm looking for similar genres, not more witch house artists.

Witch House was such a hodgepodge of a genre that it makes this question kinda hard to answer, but in addition to what's already been suggested I think you might be interested in combing through older southern rap tapes, which a lot of Witch House artists copped heavily from (specifically thinking of SALEM, White Ring, early Horse MacGyver when he was still calling himself ▲▲▲ or whatever, etc). The production for that era is so weird and dark, it's awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYBLyOlwD6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS_yA2elbS0

I think no one nails the dark psychedelic rap vibe better than Lil Noid's Binghampton N****s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UrRurRZBe4&t=1280s

You might also get a kick out of some contemporary juke music. Definitely more up-tempo than Witch House, but some producers use darker psychedelic sounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgL0DhJTdS8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzOG_v0ituY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eca5fn7-aik

There's also a lot of of "Synthwave" in Witch House. It's not a genre I'm super familiar with but here's a rec or two for that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lw1MrMHQ9o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzku_5WB5yE (might be too poppy)

Lastly, I'm not really sure what you'd call Dolphins Into the Future (Ambient? I guess?), but back when I was listening to Witch House a lot I found myself playing their 2009 album ...On Sea-Faring Isolation a lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLZsSJVkfj8

baberaham lincoln
Nov 19, 2008

NikkolasKing posted:

I am interested in hearing more grunge.

Splendora is most famous for the Daria theme (You're Standing On My Neck), but their one and only album 'In The Grass' rules: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pV8WFvSNYE

Disharmony
Dec 29, 2000

Like a hundred crippled horses lying crumpled on the ground

Begging for a rifle to come and put them down
Any suggestions for Alexisonfire (or any other band) songs similar to "Familiar Drugs" with the awesome non-whiny singing parts interspersed with mild screaming?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Disharmony posted:

Any suggestions for Alexisonfire (or any other band) songs similar to "Familiar Drugs" with the awesome non-whiny singing parts interspersed with mild screaming?

La Dispute or maybe even Envy?


Also, more bands like Sigh, please, holy poo poo did I ever enjoy Imaginary Sonicscapes

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Feb 27, 2019

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Try Envy


Also, more bands like Sigh, please, holy poo poo did I ever enjoy Imaginary Sonicscapes

Nobody sounds quite like Sigh, especially from that period of their career, but Hail Spirit Noir and Oranssi Pazuzu might scratch a similar itch for psychedelic black metal combos.

If you just want more wacky try-hard bands and don't care if they sound similar at all then check out Unexpect. maudlin of the Well also did a great job of mashing a bunch of disparate influences into a metal base.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Henchman of Santa posted:

Nobody sounds quite like Sigh, especially from that period of their career, but Hail Spirit Noir and Oranssi Pazuzu might scratch a similar itch for psychedelic black metal combos.

If you just want more wacky try-hard bands and don't care if they sound similar at all then check out Unexpect. maudlin of the Well also did a great job of mashing a bunch of disparate influences into a metal base.

Which albums? I was gonna ask about non-NS psych BM bands, because my initial research found Oranssi Pazuzu and Nachtmystium, but apparently the latter has NS ties and their singer's a dirtbag

(I didn't wanna bring this up in the metal thread because it seems nazis come up every 5 pages, but I'm sympathetic to not wanting to give money to nazis)

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Blake Judd is a scam artist but I've never heard of him having NS ties.

I would start with Valonielu for OP and Oi Magoi for HSN.

In a Flesh Aquarium is Unexpect at their wackiest. maudlin of the Well's peak is Bath, which is one of my favorite albums ever. Again, those two bands are not sonically similar to Sigh, they just throw everything at the wall like them (motW is more tasteful about it).

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
I'm in the market for stuff like Diarrhea Planet, White Reaper, Sheer Mag, Japandroids, etc. 70s indebted rock with big guitars that doesn't go full on Greta Van Fleet.

Parachute
May 18, 2003

Henchman of Santa posted:

I'm in the market for stuff like Diarrhea Planet, White Reaper, Sheer Mag, Japandroids, etc. 70s indebted rock with big guitars that doesn't go full on Greta Van Fleet.

i like these guys and they are what i call 'contemporary dad rock'. just that warm 70's rock sound with a lot of catchy riffs and harmonies w/ good production

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqZMvYJLATg

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Henchman of Santa posted:

I'm in the market for stuff like Diarrhea Planet, White Reaper, Sheer Mag, Japandroids, etc. 70s indebted rock with big guitars that doesn't go full on Greta Van Fleet.

Night Birds
Crusades

Edit: also try Mudhoney's most recent, Digital Garbage. Very good, and their sound's always been 70's influenced.

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Mar 8, 2019

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
90's British punk recs, other than Leatherface (who rule), please

Also, what would be Earth's most accessible record?

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Mar 11, 2019

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


El Gallinero Gros posted:

Also, what would be Earth's most accessible record?

Everyone who considers themselves sonically adventurous should listen to Earth 2 at some point, but that's pretty much the worst starting point. I haven't really kept up with them, but unless they've made drastic changes in their progression, I'd say reverse chronological order is the best way to go. I feel like have to throw in a caveat that drone metal isn't really something you'd ever call accessible, but over time the songs have gotten shorter and more like actual music rather than a pure wall of sound.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

ultrafilter posted:

Everyone who considers themselves sonically adventurous should listen to Earth 2 at some point, but that's pretty much the worst starting point. I haven't really kept up with them, but unless they've made drastic changes in their progression, I'd say reverse chronological order is the best way to go. I feel like have to throw in a caveat that drone metal isn't really something you'd ever call accessible, but over time the songs have gotten shorter and more like actual music rather than a pure wall of sound.

Reverse chronological order doesn't really make sense because their last few records, while decent, have tended to retread sounds from their earlier releases. Hex is the obvious choice(and basically if you like that one you'll like all the later material anyway).

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

Any prog or math rock recommends? My previous experience includes ttng, the dear hunter, and plini

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

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I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

SciFiDownBeat posted:

Any prog or math rock recommends? My previous experience includes ttng, the dear hunter, and plini

Battles
Consider the Source

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



SciFiDownBeat posted:

Any prog or math rock recommends? My previous experience includes ttng, the dear hunter, and plini

Ghosts and Vodka

me your dad
Jul 25, 2006

SciFiDownBeat posted:

Any prog or math rock recommends? My previous experience includes ttng, the dear hunter, and plini

Don Caballero

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o_C9n0mh_M

Parachute
May 18, 2003

SciFiDownBeat posted:

Any prog or math rock recommends? My previous experience includes ttng, the dear hunter, and plini

keelhaul - "ii". this is my favorite album of all time. it's very heavy, complex, and i have listened to it for like 17 years and am still not tired of it.
don caballero - definitely one of the biggest bands in the genre. "what burns never returns" and "don cab 2" are my favs.
craw - "bodies for strontium 90" and "map, monitor, surge" are their best works, especially the former. will scharf is my favorite drummer of all time and he puts in serious work on this album (also plays drums in keehaul)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NXNfQNaoyM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3Kcqnxb0b0

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


SciFiDownBeat posted:

Any prog or math rock recommends? My previous experience includes ttng, the dear hunter, and plini

Some of Rob Crow's bands, my favorites being Other Men and Thingy
Hella and Zach hill's solo stuff
Tera Melos' early stuff
Maps & Atlases
Faraquet
tangled hair
japan has some very good poo poo in this vein, highlights for me are toe, tricot, mass of the fermenting dregs, mouse on the keys, te

And the most obvious possible thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d46FV8rSbNE

Hooplah fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Mar 12, 2019

Parachute
May 18, 2003
mouse on the keys are a lot of fun if you like mathy stuff that's drums/bass/piano. their new album had some weird stuff like vocals and different instrumentation & i wasnt in to it so much

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


Parachute posted:

mouse on the keys are a lot of fun if you like mathy stuff that's drums/bass/piano. their new album had some weird stuff like vocals and different instrumentation & i wasnt in to it so much

Yeah I forgot about that one. I didn't like it so much. This is what I was thinking of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFoetd0sD6Y

Such a great album

Parachute
May 18, 2003

Hooplah posted:

Yeah I forgot about that one. I didn't like it so much. This is what I was thinking of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFoetd0sD6Y

Such a great album

hell yeah this and "the flowers of romance" (but especially this album) are great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBg4SL2MpZU

this is fun if you havent watched it

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

Thanks for the responses everyone!

If I might tap the well again, any recommended concept albums in the indie rock sphere? Specifically those with an emphasis on telling or suggesting a story through the lyrics and sound. I'm thinking like Pink Floyd's The Wall, Phish's The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday, and Dear Hunter's Acts series.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

SciFiDownBeat posted:

Thanks for the responses everyone!

If I might tap the well again, any recommended concept albums in the indie rock sphere? Specifically those with an emphasis on telling or suggesting a story through the lyrics and sound. I'm thinking like Pink Floyd's The Wall, Phish's The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday, and Dear Hunter's Acts series.

Sufjan Stevens has a few: Michigan, Illinoise!, and The Age of Adz. Arguably Carrie & Lowell
Radical Face's trilogy of albums The Family Tree
Arcade Fire's The Suburbs
The Information by Beck
Beulah has two: When Your Heartstrings Break and Yoko


Not all of those are going to be as specific as The Wall, where you follow a specific character's history and breakdown (though Radical Face's The Family Tree does), but they all have a narrative with musical and thematic motifs

Do you like Zappa? There's always Joe's Garage and 200 Motels (which also has a film)

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

nthing Don Cab. if you dig them, follow up with June of 44 and maybe Shipping News, although that's getting a little farther afield. other good ones not mentioned are Dianogah, Drive Like Jehu, Crain, and Polvo. i love Shellac and Unwound and have seen some people label them math-rock, but i'm not so sure



SciFiDownBeat posted:

Thanks for the responses everyone!

If I might tap the well again, any recommended concept albums in the indie rock sphere? Specifically those with an emphasis on telling or suggesting a story through the lyrics and sound. I'm thinking like Pink Floyd's The Wall, Phish's The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday, and Dear Hunter's Acts series.

so many Mountain Goats albums, but i'd say start with Tallahassee or The Sunset Tree
eels - Electro-Shock Blues
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Sufjan Stevens - Michigan and Illinois

there are tons that kind of come close- Ladies and Gentlemen we're Floating in Space, OK Computer, Lonesome Crowded West, Source Tags and Codes- but don't exactly fit the bill

oh, also Grandaddy's The Sophtware Slump

funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Mar 12, 2019

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

SciFiDownBeat posted:

Thanks for the responses everyone!

If I might tap the well again, any recommended concept albums in the indie rock sphere? Specifically those with an emphasis on telling or suggesting a story through the lyrics and sound. I'm thinking like Pink Floyd's The Wall, Phish's The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday, and Dear Hunter's Acts series.

Sort of on the punk end of the spectrum:
Titus Andronicus - The Most Lamentable Tragedy
hosed Up - David Comes to Life

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Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

funkybottoms posted:

nthing Don Cab. if you dig them, follow up with June of 44 and maybe Shipping News, although that's getting a little farther afield. other good ones not mentioned are Dianogah, Drive Like Jehu, Crain, and Polvo. i love Shellac and Unwound and have seen some people label them math-rock, but i'm not so sure


so many Mountain Goats albums, but i'd say start with Tallahassee or The Sunset Tree
eels - Electro-Shock Blues
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Sufjan Stevens - Michigan and Illinois

there are tons that kind of come close- Ladies and Gentlemen we're Floating in Space, OK Computer, Lonesome Crowded West, Source Tags and Codes- but don't exactly fit the bill

I mean, there's only a small difference between "Concept Album" and "Narrative Concept Album". The former is Lonesome Crowded West and The Moon & Antarctica, and the latter is In The Aeroplane Over the Sea.

They're both concept albums, one's just more specific. I tend to like the less narrative ones.

Good suggestions!

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