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Big Mean Jerk posted:
Chris Hardwick did those bullshit "talking dead" style aftershows for bad AMC shows that replaced "intentional narrative" and "purposeful style" with "everyone is traitors" and "now there's more ways characters can die" that made people assume the story was deep because it had a higher rotation of characters. Discovery is not lovely AMC level TV but I get the same vibe that a lot of choices were made by boardrooms for sick twitter engagement strats rather than to tell a good story with characters worth a drat and the desire to aim for the stars even if it means falling miserably. In short I am not really a fan of Discovery as it don't do my tastes nice
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Whalley posted:Chris Hardwick did those bullshit "talking dead" style aftershows for bad AMC shows that replaced "intentional narrative" and "purposeful style" with "everyone is traitors" and "now there's more ways characters can die" that made people assume the story was deep because it had a higher rotation of characters. Discovery is not lovely AMC level TV but I get the same vibe that a lot of choices were made by boardrooms for sick twitter engagement strats rather than to tell a good story with characters worth a drat and the desire to aim for the stars even if it means falling miserably. Have you seen any of season 2? I don’t mean that in a lovely way, I’m genuinely asking. Because I agree with that sentiment to an extent if you’re talking about season 1, but the last 4 episodes of season 2 really seem like they’re genuinely trying to right the ship and tell a solid story, even if the writing still falters now and then.
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Feb 9, 2019 04:28
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Have you seen any of season 2? I don’t mean that in a lovely way, I’m genuinely asking. Because I agree with that sentiment to an extent if you’re talking about season 1, but the last 4 episodes of season 2 really seem like they’re genuinely trying to right the ship and tell a solid story, even if the writing still falters now and then. I saw the first two episodes and it just felt like more of the same, so I'm just going to wait this one out and watch it when the season is over all in one chunk.
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Feb 9, 2019 04:30
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I'm going to drop the veil a little bit and admit that I allowed season 1 to poison the well so much that I may never be able to really give Discovery a fair chance. I guess I'm glad that some people seem to be enjoying it more now but I'm not sure I'm going to be able to join them.
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Feb 9, 2019 04:43
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ashpanash posted:Not the one that looks and feels like it was made in 1993. Something that absolutely fills me with glee is the fact that The Orville looks 30 years out of date, yet it tells stories that feel relevant in 2019 while making them fun and exciting. Meanwhile the massively-expensive "official" show is backtracking into the kind of fanservice they swore they'd never do because nobody was on board with whatever the hell their first season was supposed to be, LMao I'm sure STD has the potential to be good, just as Voyager and Enterprise did. But, lol. Son of Sam-I-Am posted:I'm going to drop the veil a little bit and admit that I allowed season 1 to poison the well so much that I may never be able to really give Discovery a fair chance. I guess I'm glad that some people seem to be enjoying it more now but I'm not sure I'm going to be able to join them. This is not an unfair position to take.
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Feb 9, 2019 05:06
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I'm trying season 2 of discovery right now. I really enjoyed the scrambled language scene, it was fun.
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Feb 9, 2019 05:08
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God, you assholes have no loving taste. Really, every conflict, or so-called conflict, in that show is designed explicitly to rub the base of the dick of people exactly like you, who already have your opinions. You will never have one of your opinions changed by that show, or in any way meaningfully challenged. It is 100% masturbatory, which is exactly why you claim you don't like discovery.
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Feb 9, 2019 05:12
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I think Discovery has the potential to be a really great show if it ever finds its footing. There have been some flashes of brilliance, especially in this season so far, but it’s incredibly uneven. The Orville is for sure more consistent, but I think its prospects are more limited.
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Feb 9, 2019 05:16
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Pick posted:God, you assholes have no loving taste. Really, every conflict, or so-called conflict, in that show is designed explicitly to rub the base of the dick of people exactly like you, who already have your opinions. You will never have one of your opinions changed by that show, or in any way meaningfully challenged. It is 100% masturbatory, which is exactly why you claim you don't like discovery. beam me up spockty
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Feb 9, 2019 05:17
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that seems like a hard line to take
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Pick posted:God, you assholes have no loving taste. Really, every conflict, or so-called conflict, in that show is designed explicitly to rub the base of the dick of people exactly like you, who already have your opinions. You will never have one of your opinions changed by that show, or in any way meaningfully challenged. It is 100% masturbatory, which is exactly why you claim you don't like discovery. When rubbing the base of the dick do u have to go in thru the butt to get there 
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Pick posted:God, you assholes have no loving taste. Really, every conflict, or so-called conflict, in that show is designed explicitly to rub the base of the dick of people exactly like you, who already have your opinions. You will never have one of your opinions changed by that show, or in any way meaningfully challenged. It is 100% masturbatory, which is exactly why you claim you don't like discovery. Have you ever had one of your opinions changed by a Star Trek episode, at least since you were a kid? I don't like STD for a few reasons but I wasn't expecting it to shift my worldview. Part of why I liked Trek is because (at least since it helped shape how I see things growing up with it) of it's affirmative qualities.
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Feb 9, 2019 05:38
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Star Trek changed my worldview in if I should get facial hair or not because I thought not but then it turns out it gets Better with Hair and now I am facially hirsute and slightly more gooder in feeling about myself
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Feb 9, 2019 05:44
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Whalley posted:Star Trek changed my worldview in if I should get facial hair or not because I thought not but then it turns out it gets Better with Hair and now I am facially hirsute and slightly more gooder in feeling about myself Are your sideburns removable
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Feb 9, 2019 05:48
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Brawnfire posted:Are your sideburns removable All sideburns are removable
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Feb 9, 2019 05:56
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Ghost Leviathan posted:TAS! Probably holds people's attention as much because the art style makes them expect Archer. Holy poo poo, doing a season as a starship crew would be a perfect "reset" for Archer.
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Feb 9, 2019 08:27
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Sash! posted:You want a Star Trek with complicated diplomatic situations, moral questions, an alien (yet relatable) society, and packed with action and drama but also typical enough to give a feel for the product to introduce a new viewer to? Look no further than...Code of Honor why would you start with a stargate episode????
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Number_6 posted:Holy poo poo, doing a season as a starship crew would be a perfect "reset" for Archer. https://vimeo.com/70518741 http://www.starchertrek.com/ Powered Descent fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Feb 9, 2019 |
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Number_6 posted:Holy poo poo, doing a season as a starship crew would be a perfect "reset" for Archer. Funny thing is that there was a show-within-a-show in the CG Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon that was basically Star Trek TAS but with Archer, or maybe Zapp Brannigan as the captain.
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Feb 9, 2019 11:39
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Number_6 posted:Holy poo poo, doing a season as a starship crew would be a perfect "reset" for Archer. Then good news, because that's exactly what Archer Series 10 is. They're even doing the same former couple as joint captains of the ship thing that the Orville has.
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Pick posted:God, you assholes have no loving taste. Really, every conflict, or so-called conflict, in that show is designed explicitly to rub the base of the dick of people exactly like you, who already have your opinions. You will never have one of your opinions changed by that show, or in any way meaningfully challenged. It is 100% masturbatory, which is exactly why you claim you don't like discovery. I love spock
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Feb 9, 2019 22:17
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I'm more a fan of Spunk, personally.
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Feb 9, 2019 22:54
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"Spock, I fooled around before I met your father.. meet your half-brother, Sperg"
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Spock's cousin, Lt. Cmdr. Spolula Does The Hula From Hawaii, could not be reached for comment.
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How do the plots of Yesterday's Enterprise and Star Trek VI make sense together?
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Don’t quote me on this, but I think Star Trek 6 was about an armistice while Yesterday’s Enterprise led to a peace treaty.
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Feb 10, 2019 02:12
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The Klingons abrogated the treaty from ST6 out of respect for Kirk after he died in ST7. They're weird like that.
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Spacebump posted:How do the plots of Yesterday's Enterprise and Star Trek VI make sense together? i got really moved by this, moved to the point where i do not even worry about the the time travel mechanics making any kind of sense. i mean it totally does not matter but how could tasha go back if she was already dead because the ship had already back so she would not have been there in the first place so how....................................
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Guinan: "Tell me about Tasha Yar." Picard: "Who?" Guinan: "T...Tasha Yar. Blonde woman? Security officer?" Picard: "I don't recall, sorry. When was this?"
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Tasha somehow has it worse than O’Brien did. In the main timeline she gets owned by Armus and dies. In the altered timeline she fights in a horrible war, goes back in time, nearly dies when the Ent-C blows up, gets captured by the Romulans and made into basically a sex slave to avoid execution, then dies years later trying to escape.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Tasha somehow has it worse than O’Brien did. In the main timeline she gets owned by Armus and dies. In the altered timeline she fights in a horrible war, goes back in time, nearly dies when the Ent-C blows up, gets captured by the Romulans and made into basically a sex slave to avoid execution, then dies years later trying to escape. The future holds wonders for us!
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Spacebump posted:How do the plots of Yesterday's Enterprise and Star Trek VI make sense together? The Federation came to the Klingons aid after the destruction of Praxis, but many Klingons still held suspicion towards the Federation. They saw it as an attempt to gain influence while the Klingons were weak. The sacrifice of the Enterprise-C showed them that the Federation was willing to fight and die for them as allies.
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Senor Tron posted:The Federation came to the Klingons aid after the destruction of Praxis, but many Klingons still held suspicion towards the Federation. They saw it as an attempt to gain influence while the Klingons were weak. And they still went to war with each other again anyway, less than thirty years later. Funny how that sort of thing can happen. 
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Feb 10, 2019 03:55
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That was because Gowron is a moron and let Changeling Martok convince him to attack the Cardassians
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I will say that Andrew Robinson really sells the horror of discovering in the finale that the Jem’Hadar have wiped out most of the planet
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FlamingLiberal posted:Tasha somehow has it worse than O’Brien did. In the main timeline she gets owned by Armus and dies. In the altered timeline she fights in a horrible war, goes back in time, nearly dies when the Ent-C blows up, gets captured by the Romulans and made into basically a sex slave to avoid execution, then dies years later trying to escape. I doubt it was intentional, but her life story consists of escaping from Rape Gangs in her childhood only to be captured and raped in an alternate timeline before being killed when her own daughter sells her out. Jesus Christ Trek writers, did no one think this through?
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galagazombie posted:I doubt it was intentional, but her life story consists of escaping from Rape Gangs in her childhood only to be captured and raped in an alternate timeline before being killed when her own daughter sells her out. Jesus Christ Trek writers, did no one think this through?
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FlamingLiberal posted:I will say that Andrew Robinson really sells the horror of discovering in the finale that the Jem’Hadar have wiped out most of the planet that's because he is a very good actor. a lot of props go to a character that wasn't really written that well on a show that wasn't really written that well. ds9 is all strength of the cast imho.
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Pick continues to have the absolute strangest DS9 opinions.
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