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The Flop House / Greatest Generation combination episode about Star Trek V actually kind of made me want to see the movie again. Ugh.
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jeeves posted:The Flop House / Greatest Generation combination episode about Star Trek V actually kind of made me want to see the movie again. Was that a donor episode?
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Feb 13, 2019 00:12
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Feb 13, 2019 01:02
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Recently realized that Jadzia Dax basically got Tasha Yar'd. "Oh you're leaving the show? gently caress you, sudden meaningless death!"
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Feb 13, 2019 08:20
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Ron Moore's rationalization for it is so weak, too. "ehhhhhhh we felt like ~*the heroic sacrifice*~ was just done too much in star trek, you know?" Really, are you loving kidding me? When's the last time prior to that a woman got to go down swinging on Star Trek? Not to mention Ron's great track record on BSG with murdering women. I don't know why I'm suddenly so pissy about this.
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Feb 13, 2019 08:25
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I wonder if Rick Berman stole her combadge too.
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Feb 13, 2019 14:15
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Recently realized that Jadzia Dax basically got Tasha Yar'd.
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Feb 13, 2019 14:25
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Lmao they gave Damar a meaningful death, and couldn't do it for Jadzia? Whatever
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Feb 13, 2019 17:33
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Would it have been better if she died on that planet while on that mission with Worf?
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Feb 13, 2019 17:37
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Actually yes, that would have been much more meaningful for her than what she ended up getting.
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Feb 13, 2019 17:40
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EvilTaytoMan posted:Would it have been better if she died on that planet while on that mission with Worf? that could have actually been kind of great in a hosed up way although i'd have sort of loved if she died on that mission AND worf failed and also died. now that's how you gently caress w/ viewers and show that your war Means Bizness
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Feb 13, 2019 17:41
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Jadzia should have died on Meridian.
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Feb 13, 2019 17:42
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jadzia doesn't die, but she does quit starfleet because she's like "you know, the Dominion is probably going to love Trill because we all have huge sticks up our asses and love boring clothing" so she wants to make a good-faith effort to fly under the radar once trillplanet is conquered
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Feb 13, 2019 17:43
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Haha, I'd love to see a DS9 where 95% of the main cast is dead and replaced by other people we don't have time get to know. By the time the Dominion is pushed back, most of the people celebrating are faces we don't recognize. The one or two familiar faces are careworn, paper-thin. They meet each other's eyes and think of how many rounded characters were sacrificed for this great moment--and how it holds them back from truly enjoying it as a victory.
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Feb 13, 2019 17:45
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Brawnfire posted:Haha, I'd love to see a DS9 where 95% of the main cast is dead and replaced by other people we don't have time get to know. By the time the Dominion is pushed back, most of the people celebrating are faces we don't recognize. The one or two familiar faces are careworn, paper-thin. They meet each other's eyes and think of how many rounded characters were sacrificed for this great moment--and how it holds them back from truly enjoying it as a victory. I'm struggling with whether thematically the best choice of a survivor would be Bashir ("yaaaaayyy frontier medicine!!! yaaaayyy starfleet!!  ") or Miles ("god won't let me die").
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Feb 13, 2019 17:46
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Brawnfire posted:Haha, I'd love to see a DS9 where 95% of the main cast is dead and replaced by other people we don't have time get to know. By the time the Dominion is pushed back, most of the people celebrating are faces we don't recognize. The one or two familiar faces are careworn, paper-thin. They meet each other's eyes and think of how many rounded characters were sacrificed for this great moment--and how it holds them back from truly enjoying it as a victory. Just Kira and Keiko staring blankly out over the Promenade during the victory celebrations
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Feb 13, 2019 17:47
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Pick posted:I'm struggling with whether thematically the best choice of a survivor would be Bashir ("yaaaaayyy frontier medicine!!! yaaaayyy starfleet!! Morn.
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Feb 13, 2019 17:49
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keiko, holding a pair of pruning snips, and garak, holding a pair of scissors, and they look at one another like "welp"
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Feb 13, 2019 17:50
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Pakled posted:Morn. O'Brien and Morn, drunk in a Quark's with no Quark. "Come on, Morn. Talk to me. You can't hold it in forever." But Morn's ebulliant former self is gone, that gregariousness for which he was known replaced with a wooden countenance. O'Brien sighs, finishes his drink, pats Morn on the back and leaves. "Whenever you're ready, friend. Whenever you're ready."
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Feb 13, 2019 17:53
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Brawnfire posted:Haha, I'd love to see a DS9 where 95% of the main cast is dead and replaced by other people we don't have time get to know. By the time the Dominion is pushed back, most of the people celebrating are faces we don't recognize. The one or two familiar faces are careworn, paper-thin. They meet each other's eyes and think of how many rounded characters were sacrificed for this great moment--and how it holds them back from truly enjoying it as a victory. Star Trek: Band of Brothers would have been an interesting way to end DS9. I'd have been down, but I can't imagine that ending ever getting approval.
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Feb 13, 2019 18:32
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Star Trek: Band of Brothers would have been an interesting way to end DS9. I'd have been down, but I can't imagine that ending ever getting approval. It probably would have had a better chance than the “Benny Russel directing Star Trek” ending.
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Feb 13, 2019 18:35
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HD DAD posted:It probably would have had a better chance than the “Benny Russel directing Star Trek” ending. Were they floating an ending where DS9 was a show being directed by Benny Russel? And the last episode has him saying like, "that's a wrap"? Or something? And then something happens where he's denied his legacy due to being Black, but then there's a hopeful note for the future as well? Part of me loves that. Part of me recoils.
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Feb 13, 2019 18:43
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Brawnfire posted:Were they floating an ending where DS9 was a show being directed by Benny Russel? And the last episode has him saying like, "that's a wrap"? Or something? And then something happens where he's denied his legacy due to being Black, but then there's a hopeful note for the future as well? IIRC something very close to that was planned by Behr, and it was almost immediately shut down by everyone else.
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Feb 13, 2019 18:46
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Behr (I think) at one point wanted an ending where Benny Russell would be sitting by the empty promenade set reading a script for the show. I don’t think the idea made it very far but they did consider it.
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Feb 13, 2019 18:46
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That would have been legendarily bad. Star Trek is not fiction in its own universe, that would blow. Also, been loving done.
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Feb 13, 2019 18:46
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What they should have done is unfrozen Benny Russel, who apparently had himself frozen as sci-fi authors are wont to do, and had him replace Sisko. And as the last episode ends he looks out at the stars and says "it's real... and it's glorious."
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Feb 13, 2019 18:54
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What they should have done is reboot Quantum Leap with Sisko, stepping into the celestial Temple being the same as stepping into the quantum leap accelerator. He leaps throughout history putting right which once went wrong. His only guide on this journey is chief Miles Edward O'Brien. Every episode he's in a different planet, different aliens, the works.
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Feb 13, 2019 19:07
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EvilTaytoMan posted:Would it have been better if she died on that planet while on that mission with Worf? Supposedly, Terry Farrell begged for this to happen when she first read that script
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Feb 13, 2019 19:13
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Pick posted:That would have been legendarily bad. Star Trek is not fiction in its own universe, that would blow. Also, been loving done.
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Feb 13, 2019 20:24
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I love Benny but that would have been an Enterprise finale level mistake.
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Feb 13, 2019 20:25
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The second Benny episode with him in a mental ward was a mistake
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Feb 13, 2019 20:42
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Baronjutter posted:I love Benny but that would have been an Enterprise finale level mistake. 
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Feb 13, 2019 20:44
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:The second Benny episode with him in a mental ward was a mistake No, because we got Casey Biggs without makeup. 
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Feb 13, 2019 21:23
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Casey Biggs is a good looking human being.
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Feb 13, 2019 21:24
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Brawnfire posted:What they should have done is unfrozen Benny Russel, who apparently had himself frozen as sci-fi authors are wont to do, and had him replace Sisko. Nah it's one of those alternate-versions-of-Earth that are just floating around in Star Trek, so there's no time travel, just a psychic link. Then a season where Benny's Earth gets taken over by the Dominion, resulting in Benny becoming a fugitive who eventually meets up with Sisko to double the on-screen Brooks.
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Feb 13, 2019 21:39
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Tunicate posted:Nah it's one of those alternate-versions-of-Earth that are just floating around in Star Trek, so there's no time travel, just a psychic link. Sisko: JAM Benny: BA Sisko: LA Benny: YA! *they slam their fists together, invoking the power of the prophets to gently caress poo poo up*
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Feb 13, 2019 21:42
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HD DAD posted:Sisko: JAM Dax: BASEBALL! Bashir: CAJUN CUISINE! O'Brien: LOVE FOR YOUR CHILDREN! Kira: BLESSINGS OF THE PROPHETS! Quark: AN IMPRESSIVE STAGE DICTION! By your powers combined, I am CAPTIAN SISKO!
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Feb 13, 2019 22:56
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Captain Sisko He's the 'Ssairy Gonna fight Dukat In the Fire Caves He's the Prophets Magnified His mother was Possessified
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Feb 13, 2019 23:08
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Pick posted:That would have been legendarily bad. Star Trek is not fiction in its own universe, that would blow. Also, been loving done. Benny is the loose thread that would unravel the entire Star Trek universe if pulled too hard, so it's probably best left alone. Fun as it is to picture him having to write every single episode, including all the ones with Troi's mother.
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Maelstache posted:Benny is the loose thread that would unravel the entire Star Trek Fixed
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