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Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Lightning Knight posted:

Do not post publicly about this anymore.

Can we laugh if I get any good stories from work people? I’m sure just what this thread needs is you carrying water for the guy who said he would drown his gay children.

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Hastings
Dec 30, 2008

I'm a recruiting specialist, and I am going to print the poo poo out of this and put it on my door Monday, and then inject it into every one of our training power points. This is brilliant.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

The Supreme Court proved last year that just because Trump repeatedly said his so-called travel ban was aimed at keeping Muslims out of the country doesn’t mean a majority of justices will call a presidential order illegally discriminatory.


Well researched arguments fail one critical test: they all ignore how evil people are and how they'll destroy everything for power...even if they actually hurt themselves.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
And yet you post well researeched arguments :thunk:

The Super-Id
Nov 9, 2005

"You know it's what you really want."


Grimey Drawer

Covok posted:

...
Well researched arguments fail one critical test: they all ignore how evil people are and how they'll destroy everything for power...even if they actually hurt themselves.

It’s much more noticeable when evil people destroy something rather than when they don’t. Evil doesn’t always win, often it is quietly defeated. No reason to give up hope because Trump continues to bluster his way through the presidency. There’s a long way to go between the Supreme Court rolling over on this emergency bullshit and a dictatorship.

Guze
Oct 10, 2007

Regular Human Bartender

lol even the SCO is surprised by Paul Manafort's love of crimes

https://twitter.com/kpolantz/status/1096588129753055232

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

MasterSlowPoke posted:

Buzzfeed sounds like a good place to start.

Literally every major piece of breaking news from Buzzfeed in the past year, including that “trump directly told Cohen to do xyz” is bullshit. They, and many other news sources, know they can post a breaking news story with very little actual corroboration and the shakiest of sources and will get shitloads of clicks and retweets.. and when it comes around that their conclusions are absolute trash the entire population of America will forget about the story by the time the weekend is over with zero consequences. It’s a cheap, rapid fire, clickbait “get the scoop first” tactic to see what sticks and what doesn’t, and they’re all doing it because nobody remembers anything anymore.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

silicone thrills posted:

I wish this piece of corporate trash would gently caress off back into a hole.
I live in Seattle and I never really cared about the dude but now I just loathe him and so does everyone I know.

And Starbucks keeps running out of Peach Tranquility so gently caress them too.

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
I can’t believe how stupid our fat wet president is. I mean gently caress

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through

Blind Rasputin posted:

Literally every major piece of breaking news from Buzzfeed in the past year, including that “trump directly told Cohen to do xyz” is bullshit. They, and many other news sources, know they can post a breaking news story with very little actual corroboration and the shakiest of sources and will get shitloads of clicks and retweets.. and when it comes around that their conclusions are absolute trash the entire population of America will forget about the story by the time the weekend is over with zero consequences. It’s a cheap, rapid fire, clickbait “get the scoop first” tactic to see what sticks and what doesn’t, and they’re all doing it because nobody remembers anything anymore.
That's why it'd be a good place to get the ball rolling, they require less inertia and need a real story.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

The Glumslinger posted:

And yet you post well researeched arguments :thunk:

In a world where nothing makes any goddamn sense, the expert knows just as much as the ignorant.


The Super-Id posted:

It’s much more noticeable when evil people destroy something rather than when they don’t. Evil doesn’t always win, often it is quietly defeated. No reason to give up hope because Trump continues to bluster his way through the presidency. There’s a long way to go between the Supreme Court rolling over on this emergency bullshit and a dictatorship.

I get what you're saying. But man. Every time I was told I was overreacting and cooler heads will prevail, I've been kicked in the teeth. The travel ban. The trans ban. Tax Cuts. He even found a way to ruin Obamacare even if he couldn't repeal it. And I haven't even started with how badly everything is going. It just makes more sense after a certain point to expect the worst.

The Super-Id
Nov 9, 2005

"You know it's what you really want."


Grimey Drawer
Oh we’re going to get kicked in the teeth again. That’s just life. I just think there’s plenty of hope that we can continue to nudge that number of teeth kickings down as we await the environmental destruction of our planet.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

The Super-Id posted:

Oh we’re going to get kicked in the teeth again. That’s just life. I just think there’s plenty of hope that we can continue to nudge that number of teeth kickings down as we await the environmental destruction of our planet.

Not really the uplifting message I was hoping for. But it's kind of the message I was asking for with all my nihilism and self-pity.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

Jaxyon posted:

High end of estimates put him at about $20b at current values which means that numerous American robber barons have trounced him. Dude inherited a huge fortune. At best he's "richest dude at his point of history".

Current value doesn't mean anything. The labor value and economic share are far more indicative of true worth.

Example, Mr. Darcy made 10,000 pounds a year. Just adjusting that number for inflation would produce a laughable number that would in no way demonstrate how wealthy he was.


https://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare/relativevalue.php

If you want to compare the value of a £10,000 0s 0d Commodity in 1810 there are four choices. In 2017 the relative:
real price of that commodity is £674,400.00
labour value of that commodity is £8,271,000.00
income value of that commodity is £8,668,000.00
economic share of that commodity is £43,540,000.00

The Super-Id
Nov 9, 2005

"You know it's what you really want."


Grimey Drawer
You always have the power to influence yourself, and hope is a good quality to have, it keeps you looking for the things you can do.

Undocumented Gamer
Jan 9, 2019

Mantis42 posted:

He introduced the bill that gave Palpatine his emergency powers. He-sa killed the republic.

There is much truth in the Sith Lord Jar Jar Binks conspiracy.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007


Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


Ague Proof posted:

It finally happened.

https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1096404026596442112

A conservative finally, unironically said that houses are made of walls.

So does this mean they want to build houses for immigrants? Because that seems fine. :v:

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

GreyjoyBastard posted:

that is no poo poo a great way to remember those bullet points

There is an equally good one for cover letters.

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


A bit late to the 'Which Ancient Roman is Trump most like' (timezones mean I'm always way behind on this thread), but there is a good argument to be made that Trump is close to Commodus with a bit of Nero and maybe Tiberius thrown in.

To understand Trump, we should look to the tyrants of ancient Rome

Nervous
Jan 25, 2005

Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.

Blind Rasputin posted:

and they’re all doing it because nobody remembers anything anymore.

This is pretty much true. Remember when Trump initiated a missile barrage against Syria after Assad used chemical weapons against civilians? Because I barely do. :(

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Nervous posted:

This is pretty much true. Remember when Trump initiated a missile barrage against Syria after Assad used chemical weapons against civilians? Because I barely do. :(

to be fair, that was like 15 years ago right?

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Helith posted:

A bit late to the 'Which Ancient Roman is Trump most like' (timezones mean I'm always way behind on this thread), but there is a good argument to be made that Trump is close to Commodus with a bit of Nero and maybe Tiberius thrown in.

To understand Trump, we should look to the tyrants of ancient Rome

Nero gets a bum rap :colbert:

Except for the religious persecution, that was pretty hosed up.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Vid's blocked for me, what went down?

Ror
Oct 21, 2010

😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟


SocketWrench posted:

Vid's blocked for me, what went down?

It was a mashup of shots of all the Democrats looking "sad" at the SOTU with Everybody Hurts playing. R.E.M. said they sent a cease and desist.

It's reposted in the replies somewhere.

edit: article - https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/15/rem-publisher-asks-twitter-to-remove-video-tweeted-by-trump-over-song-use.html

Roadie
Jun 30, 2013

Ror posted:

It was a mashup of shots of all the Democrats looking "sad" at the SOTU with Everybody Hurts playing. R.E.M. said they sent a cease and desist.

It's reposted in the replies somewhere.

edit: article - https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/15/rem-publisher-asks-twitter-to-remove-video-tweeted-by-trump-over-song-use.html

The President of the United States, everyone.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Ague Proof posted:

It finally happened.

https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1096404026596442112

A conservative finally, unironically said that houses are made of walls.

Can these two women get any dumber?

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Covok posted:

Not really the uplifting message I was hoping for. But it's kind of the message I was asking for with all my nihilism and self-pity.

Disclaimer: Everything written here is 100% serious.

One of the cool things about nihilism is that if you play it right, it actually wraps around from "nothing matters, everything is horrible" to "If nothing matters, I can assign meaning to whatever the hell I want". It's a happier life when you recognize the absurdity, accept it and then assign meaning to your life.

I was once like you, nihilistic and depressed. A big part of that was drifting through an absurd world and feeling small and believing in my heart of hearts that nothing mattered except for the horror and then I felt even worse. But you know what? When you're feeling uplifted? I loving love reading your posts when you're upbeat and your morale is high. The Covok with the raised middle finger and riteous anger is the cool Covok. I'd like to see him more. So I'll tell you what worked for me. It was a change in my attitude. It was the Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus.

So what the gently caress does a philosophical work written by a guy dead for almost 75 years do for you? Well Camus, like Nietzsche, is an existentialist philosopher and it seems like you're going through fairly constant existential dread. So while Nietzsche eventually went nuts, Camus played sports, dated models, drove fast cars and won a nobel prize. Maybe check out his work called "The Myth of Sisyphus". It's just an essay. But if you don't want to do that, here's a primer for you to catch your interest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc9XOxUcvLY

There are a bunch more like this, but this is the shortest. Recgonize the absurdity of your life, that rock you are doomed to roll up that hill forever. Recognize that it is your rock and that the torture exists only in your own mind. By making your struggles yours, by making this rock your rock, by realizing the absurdity, by rejecting pain and the forces that torment you, you too can be a force that lifts rocks and can be happy.

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?

This dude has done more in his life than my dreams would aspire to dream and he shouldn’t be forgotten so easily.

PhazonLink posted:

Didn't Jar become a slight more better spoken senator by episode 3? Also he at least has a good heart and isnt a piss drinking daughter fucker.

I see someone hasn’t watched the deleted scenes

SocketWrench posted:

Vid's blocked for me, what went down?

It was a two minute propaganda video set to some song I don’t remember because I usually don’t remember stuff like that. It was clipped together SOTU video showing Democrats looking unenthused to Bernie’s weird stare. That was the extent of what I watched (20-30 seconds) of it because it didn’t appear to have anything new to it other than the song.

Efb

E2: ^^^ on the topic of optimistic nihilism, I enjoyed this video; not extremely concise but well put together and easy for anyone to follow along with the entire concept.

https://youtu.be/MBRqu0YOH14

Ugato fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Feb 16, 2019

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Katt posted:

Oh god weird Al is still alive. Please hurry up and perish before we found out you had a sex pest dungeon in the 80s or you become an anti-vaxxer. I love you too much to have to see it.

Nah, Weird Al is pretty straight in that. Hasn't been a creeper, dosen't drink, doesn't swear, pretty damned smart. Guy's a good role model.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

SocketWrench posted:

Nah, Weird Al is pretty straight in that. Hasn't been a creeper, dosen't drink, doesn't swear, pretty damned smart. Guy's a good role model.

And any time he’s come close to making a mistake or did something stupid, he’s been genuinely apologetic and strives to do better when dinged on it. Like some parts in UHF haven’t aged well but hell, he’d probably apologize and do better from that too.

Like if you want an example of a Good White Dude, it’s him.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Ror posted:

It was a mashup of shots of all the Democrats looking "sad" at the SOTU with Everybody Hurts playing. R.E.M. said they sent a cease and desist.

It's reposted in the replies somewhere.

edit: article - https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/15/rem-publisher-asks-twitter-to-remove-video-tweeted-by-trump-over-song-use.html

God drat. Chuds are such loving morons

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

I regret to inform you that Mr. Yankovich is, in fact, Weird.

Hope you can still separate art from artist.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

teen witch posted:

And any time he’s come close to making a mistake or did something stupid, he’s been genuinely apologetic and strives to do better when dinged on it. Like some parts in UHF haven’t aged well but hell, he’d probably apologize and do better from that too.

Like if you want an example of a Good White Dude, it’s him.
I'm always reminded of the VH1 thing about him where they always try to find some dirty dark drama to focus on for a good chunk of the documentary of a singer but they couldn't find anything on him so they just dwelled on his dead parents instead

Weird Al is a saint

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Mantis42 posted:

I regret to inform you that Mr. Yankovich is, in fact, Weird.

Hope you can still separate art from artist.

Dude's weird even outside his art. Everything I've heard about him is he's intelligent and fun to be around in private life


Captain Invictus posted:

I'm always reminded of the VH1 thing about him where they always try to find some dirty dark drama to focus on for a good chunk of the documentary of a singer but they couldn't find anything on him so they just dwelled on his dead parents instead

Weird Al is a saint

His voicing Darkseid was loving hysterical

Drunk Theory
Aug 20, 2016


Oven Wrangler

teen witch posted:

Like if you want an example of a Good White Dude, it’s him.

I do not disagree with your statement, and like Weird Al.

That said, when I read this my first thought is this is an absurdly low bar.

Drunk Theory fucked around with this message at 10:45 on Feb 16, 2019

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

Drunk Theory posted:

I do not disagree with your statement, and like Weird Al.

That said, when i read this my first thought is this is an absurdly low bar.

oh it’s just lightly hovering above the ground and yet for some white men it is this impossible obstacle to clear.

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Captain Invictus posted:

I'm always reminded of the VH1 thing about him where they always try to find some dirty dark drama to focus on for a good chunk of the documentary of a singer but they couldn't find anything on him so they just dwelled on his dead parents instead

Weird Al is a saint

He's also one of those performers that puts 100% enthusiasm into every performance afaik, even if it's a small venue or it's fairly empty.

Zisky
May 6, 2003

PM me and I will show you my tits
I've been lucky enough to work with Weird Al, one of my childhood heroes. Maybe the only time I've been a little starstruck by someone...I had to thank him for teaching me to find the humor in things, which I think he probably gets a lot judging by his reaction.

He's just as nice/fun to be around as everyone here expects.

Zisky fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Feb 16, 2019

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Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



Ugato posted:

This dude has done more in his life than my dreams would aspire to dream and he shouldn’t be forgotten so easily.


Straight up, Melvin owns. Drafted by the Lions, tore his hamstring, got picked up by the Cowboys, tore his hamstring a second time, said gently caress it and started to work for NASA before being selected to be an astronaut, recovered from a severe ear injury that almost compromised his hearing, and went to space twice.

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