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StrixNebulosa posted:You'll find similar visual themes in his other shows, but nothing I've seen has ever approached it. Princess Tutu looks interesting. In what ways is it similar to Utena? Can you give a hint as to what sort of themes it covers?
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:Princess Tutu looks interesting. In what ways is it similar to Utena? Can you give a hint as to what sort of themes it covers? Fairy tales vs reality, the nature of stories, great characters and their development, a completely bizarre sense of humor... it's more dreamlike than Utena but in a good way.
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Feb 15, 2019 22:31
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StrixNebulosa posted:Fairy tales vs reality, the nature of stories, great characters and their development, a completely bizarre sense of humor... it's more dreamlike than Utena but in a good way. That all sounds like the sort of stuff I like. Thanks, I'll be sure to check it out!
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Feb 15, 2019 22:36
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His work on Sailor Moon is as good visually and is as funny but it's mostly a monster of the week show. It's still very, very good, especially the third season, but. Penguindrum is okay. Revue Starlight is based on the same japanese theater troupe and the director of it is sort of a protege of Ikuhara's, but the story's actually about the Takarazuka Revue and not just using it as a visual metaphor, and the story's also mostly episodic/focused on individual characters, and its quality varies somewhat from episode to episode, with one character arc in the middle being the highlight by a mile. It's also mostly about storytelling and acting and not really about gender or anything. It's only 13 episodes though so it might be worth checking out, it is very interesting visually. Yuri Kuma kind of sucks. Doesn't help that it's trying to be explicitly about lesbianism but instead of letting the character designer, an actual lesbian who's done tons of manga about lesbians, also write it, Ikuhara just decided to handle the writing himself and it mostly winds up meandering and also ripping off twin peaks visually at every possible chance. The manga version by the character designer is decent, though.
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Feb 15, 2019 22:57
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Princess Tutu rules really hard. You might even say that it rocks.
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Feb 15, 2019 23:36
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:None of his other work is as good as Utena, he pretty much caught lightning in a bottle there. Endorph posted:Penguindrum is okay. Revue Starlight is based on the same japanese theater troupe and the director of it is sort of a protege of Ikuhara's, but the story's actually about the Takarazuka Revue and not just using it as a visual metaphor, and the story's also mostly episodic/focused on individual characters, and its quality varies somewhat from episode to episode, with one character arc in the middle being the highlight by a mile. It's also mostly about storytelling and acting and not really about gender or anything. It's only 13 episodes though so it might be worth checking out, it is very interesting visually. You've missed half of it; It is a full two-cour show, and nosedives straight into pure misery-porn for the second cour.
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Feb 16, 2019 05:28
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i don't think endorph is talking about penguindrum
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Feb 16, 2019 08:47
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You've missed half of it; It is a full two-cour show, and nosedives straight into pure misery-porn for the second cour. 2) penguindrum isn't 'misery porn'
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Feb 16, 2019 09:33
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Endorph posted:1) i was talking about revue It absolute is past the halfway point. It goes out of its way to make every goddamn element of the show as bleak and miserable as possible.
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Feb 16, 2019 10:18
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That isn't what misery porn is, though. The term 'misery porn' applies to works that do that for literally no other reason than its own sake. Whether or not Penguindrum is executing it well, it's clearly reaching for a point with that stuff.
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Feb 16, 2019 13:27
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Penguindrum is not perfect by any means, but I kinda liked a few of the points/aesop it was trying to make, even if it was as subtle as a brick to the face. I actually liked it more than Utena, but after taking the Revolutionary Girl's escapades for a spin once more, I'm not as certain anymore. I cannot be objective about old Sailor Moon because, along with Slam Dunk and Magic Knight Rayearth, it's one of my favorite shows from my wee days in the 90's, and Araceli de León's portrayal of Makoto/Lita Kino was for the longest time one of my favorites. 
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Feb 16, 2019 13:56
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Penguindrum is amazing and is pretty drat far from being misery porn. My tolerance level for pointless suffering-for-the-sake-of-suffering is pretty low and Penguindrum didn't even approach it.
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I decided to watch Princess Tutu purely based on this AMV. Kind of spoilerific for specific events, but doesn't give any context for them. Also, seconding that Penguindrum is not misery porn. It definitely lowers the characters into their own personal hell in the second half, but it isn't for nothing. And it does a good job bringing them back out by the end. AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Feb 17, 2019 |
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Feb 16, 2019 18:15
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Are there any decent soccer anime other than Captain Tsubasa and I guess Inazuma Eleven? I'm in the mood for dumb sports anime and rewatching the former (well, watching the remake).
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Feb 16, 2019 18:22
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Dias posted:Are there any decent soccer anime other than Captain Tsubasa and I guess Inazuma Eleven? I'm in the mood for dumb sports anime and rewatching the former (well, watching the remake). Here's a whole list for you, though I can't personally vouch for any if them. https://www.google.com/amp/s/myanimelist.net/amp/featured/1546/Top_18_Best_Soccer_Football_Anime_and_Manga
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Feb 16, 2019 18:25
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Also it's called football, not soccer, which may help you find stuff a little better.
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Feb 16, 2019 18:36
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Julias posted:Here's a whole list for you, though I can't personally vouch for any if them. Yeah, I'm kinda iffy on Internet lists, that's why I decided to ask around. I only ever hear people talk about the two I mentioned tho, so... I actually haven't watched Inazuma Eleven, it looks like some weird Beyblade poo poo but with soccer instead. Is it actually, like, decent? The Shortest Path posted:Also it's called football, not soccer, which may help you find stuff a little better. Actually in Japan people use the term "soccer" more often.
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Feb 16, 2019 18:44
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Dias posted:Are there any decent soccer anime other than Captain Tsubasa and I guess Inazuma Eleven? I'm in the mood for dumb sports anime and rewatching the former (well, watching the remake). giant killing, its seinen so way more adult than those though
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Feb 16, 2019 18:45
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Davincie posted:giant killing, its seinen so way more adult than those though I'll check that one out first then, might make for a decent palate cleanser after I finish this finals match where people are prolonging slide tackles by pushing with their hands.
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Feb 16, 2019 18:52
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There's one called Goal Field Hunter/Goleadores that ran for like 40 episodes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq1UmnZESco I'm unaware if it's in any streaming services, but one thing that I remember quite well even to this day is another friend back in my old town describing it as thus: "Imagine having the choice to follow either Oliver Atom or Steve Hyuuga (Tsubasa and Kojiro's LatAm dub names, respectively): if you want Oliver, go with Super Campeones. If you want Steve, go with Goleadores". The statement kinda doesn't hold, since Captain Tsubasa/Super Campeones does give its fair share of the limelight to Steve/Kojiro past the initial Shizuoka arc, but I remember the show nonetheless because, while Tsubasa is memorable enough as an MC, Hikaru from Goal Field Hunter/Goleadores does have a bit more of a personality. Davincie posted:giant killing, its seinen so way more adult than those though
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Feb 16, 2019 19:04
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Wark Say posted:There's one called Goal Field Hunter/Goleadores that ran for like 40 episodes. Hah, in Brazil it's Oliver Tsubasa, somehow Hyuga kept his name tho. I'm kinda surprised there was a similar anime about soccer that didn't air here, because I never heard of it until now. If I can find it anywhere I might check it out. Kojiro's arc is kinda depressing in the later arcs, which kinda sucks. I like the unreasonably buff elementary school boy.
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Feb 16, 2019 19:15
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Giant Killing is good! I wish there were more sports shows with adult characters
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Feb 16, 2019 19:21
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Dias posted:Hah, in Brazil it's Oliver Tsubasa, somehow Hyuga kept his name tho. I'm kinda surprised there was a similar anime about soccer that didn't air here, because I never heard of it until now. If I can find it anywhere I might check it out. The funny thing with regards to the "unreasonably buff 6th grader" look is that it's only kinda slightly exaggerated, since dude does work like 4 jobs (paperboy, storehouse clean-up, and I think construction work?), and since he's picking stuff up repeatedly, it sorta makes sense that he'd be as toned as he is.
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Feb 16, 2019 19:30
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hi. im looking for anime thats kind of deliberately paced, character- and dialogue-driven, something like .hack//SIGN or Sound! Euphonium. any theme/category that includes these is fine. can u help me?
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Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu E: "Descending Stories" is the 2nd season, FYI Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Feb 17, 2019 |
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Feb 17, 2019 03:25
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mycophobia posted:hi. im looking for anime thats kind of deliberately paced, character- and dialogue-driven, something like .hack//SIGN or Sound! Euphonium. any theme/category that includes these is fine. can u help me? Bloom into You (hey look its that writer, again, very deliberately paced romance anime, good side characters, complex relationship dynamics, author of the original manga outright said she was inspired by euphonium) Hyouka (teens solve minor mysteries, but its mostly about the weird distance between people who care about each other and how people get into their own heads, lots of banter and playing off each other's personalities, has the best school festival arc in anime)
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mycophobia posted:hi. im looking for anime thats kind of deliberately paced, character- and dialogue-driven, something like .hack//SIGN or Sound! Euphonium. any theme/category that includes these is fine. can u help me? Legend o-*Strangulation Noises*
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Endorph posted:Bloom into You (hey look its that writer, again, very deliberately paced romance anime, good side characters, complex relationship dynamics, author of the original manga outright said she was inspired by euphonium) Woah, that's interesting to hear! I'm curious if she said anything more about the connection there.
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thanks yall
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esselfortium posted:Woah, that's interesting to hear! I'm curious if she said anything more about the connection there. It isn't like, the only thing she was inspired by, but essentially she just said that she really liked Kumiko and Reina's relationship and how they interacted, and tried to base some of the 'distance' between her characers on that. I believe she was talking about the novels, since Bloom into You had already started by the time Eupho's anime started airing, but she could have meant that it was a continuing inspiration for her as the story developed. Either way, she was mostly just talking about it in the context of being happy that the Eupho anime writer was working on the anime of her work.
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Feb 17, 2019 04:36
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Seconding Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu
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mycophobia posted:hi. im looking for anime thats kind of deliberately paced, character- and dialogue-driven, something like .hack//SIGN or Sound! Euphonium. any theme/category that includes these is fine. can u help me? Gilgamesh is about as deliberately paced as anime gets, it is far more in the .hack//SIGN spectrum than Euphonium spectrum
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Oh, actually Ashita no Joe would be good. It's a boxing anime where the main character doesn't step into the ring for well over a season, and doesn't even enter professional boxing for over two seasons. It's really more of a character drama up to that point
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GorfZaplen posted:Gilgamesh is about as deliberately paced as anime gets, it is far more in the .hack//SIGN spectrum than Euphonium spectrum GorfZaplen posted:Oh, actually Ashita no Joe would be good. It's a boxing anime where the main character doesn't step into the ring for well over a season, and doesn't even enter professional boxing for over two seasons. It's really more of a character drama up to that point word. thanks 
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Feb 17, 2019 05:46
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GorfZaplen posted:Oh, actually Ashita no Joe would be good. It's a boxing anime where the main character doesn't step into the ring for well over a season, and doesn't even enter professional boxing for over two seasons. It's really more of a character drama up to that point Also has an amazing loving ending. Any good anime with a strong female lead? Basically looking for an anime version of Ripley from the Alien movies.
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Feb 17, 2019 06:07
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Furnaceface posted:Also has an amazing loving ending. for varying definitions of "strong" Psycho-Pass Birdy the Mighty: Decode Revolutionary Girl Utena The Promised Neverland Jormungand also check out Sayo Yamamoto's work in general Psycho-Pass and Birdy the Mighty are probably the closest to Ellen Ripley in terms of "a professional adult woman in a violent line of work who has to push back against a corrupt or passive system in order to stand by her principles"
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maybe Claymore too but it's been so long since I watched that I can't remember if it's actually good or if it falls into lovely cliches re: Clare (and either way it has a pretty  anime-original ending)and while I actually don't like it or think it's good at all I will reluctantly mention Ghost in the Shell: SAC because most people do like it and the Major is pretty much what you're asking for
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Looking for anime/manga with that Shin Megami Tensei feel. Kinda cyberpunk with some occult or dreadful elements. I know about Lain.
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Feb 17, 2019 06:54
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Tokyo Majin doesn't have the cyberpunk, but it does have occult dread.
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the old birdy the mighty ova is a fun action romp that's 90% birdy beating up space bad guys, the first season of decode is kinda eh but it has some fun one-off eps for birdy and s2 of decode is an incredibly good action drama that's almost entirely about her
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