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Epicurius posted:
Maybe it's the other way around. Fixing problems like the Sanctuary Districts makes people complacent about threats in the world, which contributes to WWIII starting. In the Bell dies timeline the Sanctuary Districts get worse and lead to a holocaust style situation. The world is shocked in action and rejects capitalism. No WWIII, no Cochrane warp flight, no first contact, and by the 24th century humanity is a pre-warp society living under luxury
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FlavoFibe posted:Shame there isn't more Gorn though, even if the suit was goofy. We didn't even get a good look at their ship. 
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Feb 19, 2019 23:01
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There was that Star Trek game that made the Gorn actually come from another universe/galaxy/dimension and were genocidal madmen who destroyed everything.
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Feb 19, 2019 23:11
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Pick posted:Shatner is a super engaging actor and Star Trek only exists because of how enthralling he was his performance is only a trope now because of how goddamn memorable he was and how he won over the hearts and minds of generations on generations; Star Trek would have been cancelled if not for the way he brought life to an otherwise tired trope. Not even joking like, Pike was so boring in The Cage that they did a second pilot using Shatner and if he hadn't nailed it so hard the franchise wouldn't have ever taken off
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Feb 19, 2019 23:15
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Well hey, that's something! Thanks for sharing that.
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Senor Tron posted:Maybe it's the other way around. Fixing problems like the Sanctuary Districts makes people complacent about threats in the world, which contributes to WWIII starting. In a follow up, in this timeline a Sisko equivalent goes back in time and accidentally stops the Sanctuary system. However he is horrified to discover that resulted in a nuclear war happening just years later. Now he must make the heart breaking decision to either undo his interference and doom the Sanctuary inhabitants, or condemn the world to nuclear flame. Alt-Sisko stars in The Sanctuary On The Edge Of Forever.
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Feb 19, 2019 23:23
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Spacebump posted:Slowly making my way through Season 7 of TNG. It's sad to see a season without so many characters I like. I'm starting to think of s4-6 as peak TNG. Go over the episode list of season 3 again. It's pretty loving great. The Survivors, Who Watches the Watchers, the Enemy, Yesterday's Enterprise, Hollow Pursuits, the Most Toys. So many good episodes.
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Feb 19, 2019 23:30
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Season 3 of TOS definitely gets more into the trope of Kirk macking on alien women. Along with the general decline in quality.
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Feb 19, 2019 23:39
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FlavoFibe posted:Well hey, that's something! Thanks for sharing that. The Gorn are in Star Trek Online, too, where they've been conquered by the Klingon Empire and are now a client state. Funny thing is, they're the Empire's designated science dudes - all the Gorn ships available to players are dedicated science vessels, and the KDF's default race for holograms is Gorn because they're the race in the Empire that generally cares about that stuff.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Watch it in chronological order, so start with All Good things as it has scenes in pre-life Earth, then move into Times Arrow which takes place in the 19th century, then one scene from Past Tense, then City on the Edge of Forever, then Carbon Creek, then Little Green Men, then Times Orphan, then Assignment Earth, then another scene from Past Tense, then Star Trek IV, then Futures End, then 11:59, then the rest of Past Tense, then First Contact, etc and so forth You forgot about how Voyager was present at the instant of the Big Bang.
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Feb 20, 2019 00:12
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Whalley posted:100% this Nimoy was roughly five times as popular with fans (including as a sex icon) as Shatner. To the point that Shatner was deeply jealous. Nimoy was also far more popular with the cast for a variety of reasons.
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Still on my Voyager rewatch, and ‘Twisted’ is the Star Trek equivalent of a shitpost
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Sir Lemming posted:Season 3 of TOS definitely gets more into the trope of Kirk macking on alien women. Along with the general decline in quality.
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Feb 20, 2019 00:17
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Pick posted:Past Tense is actually the best such episode (set) in DS9 and the best Star Trek two parter Past tense teaches us about the characters of the show we're watching therefore it's better than far beyond the stars.
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What if Gorn, but Morn
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Who Gourns for Gorn?
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Far Beyond the Stars explores and makes statements about the science fiction genre in the specific and art in general, as it pertains to the gatekeeping of those forms and the empowerment gained through representation of, and creation by, marginalized people. This coming at a time when DS9 frequently had black characters (especially black men) talking to each other seriously as sovereigns, war generals, fathers, and lovers on primetime 90s TV. It's a better and more significant piece of television, but Past Tense and Pale Moonlight are overall better Treks
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Laterite posted:What if Gorn, but Morn And now I want to watch some Gorn / Morn porn. (Musical soundtrack by Korn).
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Bingeing Deep Space Nine really highlights how much of a kisser Benjamin Sisko is. Kisses Jake and his dad at every opportunity. That’s a really sweet touch.
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Powered Descent posted:And now I want to watch some Gorn / Morn porn. (Musical soundtrack by Korn). Featuring Michael Dorn
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Powered Descent posted:And now I want to watch some Gorn / Morn porn. (Musical soundtrack by Korn). All Day I Dream About bIJ
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I've been going through TAS again for the first time in years, and let me just say: It's the best "Star Trek"
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i love curling
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egon_beeblebrox posted:I've been going through TAS again for the first time in years, and let me just say: It's the best "Star Trek" TAS actually owns. I stand by this firmly, and with extremely firm conviction.
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Pick posted:TAS actually owns. I stand by this firmly, and with extremely firm conviction. I have different opinions to Pick in many things but also stand by the belief that TAS firmly slaps, it's very very good.
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Powered Descent posted:You forgot about how Voyager was present at the instant of the Big Bang. I tried to look that episode up but only got lists of when Big Bang Theory referenced Star Trek
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I tried to look that episode up but only got lists of when Big Bang Theory referenced Star Trek https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Death_Wish_(episode)
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Wasn't the TOS enterprise also at one point present at the Big Bang because of Space Satan or something.
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FlavoFibe posted:Well hey, that's something! Thanks for sharing that. It's not mine, it is from an old tabletop game called Star Fleet Battles. In it the Gorn were sorta friends of the Federation and enemies of the Romulans.
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Geekboy posted:Time travel isn’t real. This is exactly something a time traveller would say.  In this specific case, the tinfoil emote should be Mark Twain.
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Cessna posted:It's not mine, it is from an old tabletop game called Star Fleet Battles. In it the Gorn were sorta friends of the Federation and enemies of the Romulans. If you're a Gorn fan, the SFB setting is for you. The Gorn are major players on the same level as the Klingons, Romulans, or Kzinti. They're on one side of the Federation with the Romulans, so they also use plasma torpedoes, but don't have the cloaking device. The Kzinti are on the other side with the Klingons and fight them. They both do missiles, direct-fire disruptors, and go weak on phasers; just in different proportions. Have a Pinterest on KZinti ships, https://www.pinterest.com/tyrandosaurus/kzinti-ships/?lp=true
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mllaneza posted:If you're a Gorn fan, the SFB setting is for you. The Gorn are major players on the same level as the Klingons, Romulans, or Kzinti. They're on one side of the Federation with the Romulans, so they also use plasma torpedoes, but don't have the cloaking device. The Kzinti are on the other side with the Klingons and fight them. They both do missiles, direct-fire disruptors, and go weak on phasers; just in different proportions. Dang, all but one of those is like mad lovely.  I don't like the Kzinti in Star Trek because they're really hosed-up. I don't know if Starfleet Battles Kzinti are "different" or if they've also bred their females to experience intense pain during intercourse but uh... where was I going with this? Oh right, the Kzinti are hosed up.
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FlavoFibe posted:I feel like A Taste of Armageddon was a solid sci-fi concept, am I crazy there? The disintegration chamber stuff kind of reminded me of The Carousel from Logan's Run. It's one of my favorite episodes. Looking forward to your thoughts on second season!
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It's got one of the best lines from TOS. "Death... destruction... disease... horror... that's what war is all about, Anan. That's what makes it a thing to be avoided. You've made it neat, and painless. So neat and painless, you've had no reason to stop it."
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Brawnfire posted:Dang, all but one of those is like mad lovely. I'd say no, all the horrific details were added long after the TAS aired. A lot of the Man-Kzin Wars stuff is Kickin' RadTM, but some of it should not exist.
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I imagine Starfleet Battles is very careful about avoiding even the hint that they're borrowing anything about the Kzinti that's not from "The Slaver Weapon" episode. As far as I know, every other licensed Star Trek product has just avoided using the Kzin at all, even if they might technically have the rights - the Starfleet Battles games used the 'Mirak' as a stand-in, and Star Trek Online has the 'Ferasians' as an obvious reference to them.
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Phylodox posted:Bingeing Deep Space Nine really highlights how much of a kisser Benjamin Sisko is. Kisses Jake and his dad at every opportunity. That’s a really sweet touch. It's a really nice touch that cements them as a family to me. Also, as background, Cirroc Lofton's parents had separated, and Brooks basically stepped in as a surrogate father figure for him in real life too. Here's a touching article about it.
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Cessna posted:It's not mine, it is from an old tabletop game called Star Fleet Battles. In it the Gorn were sorta friends of the Federation and enemies of the Romulans. Sorry if I misled, I didn't think you made it. It's just that all this Gorn info isn't stuff I would have looked up on my own, so the sharing of background and ships and everything is appreciated. Zesty posted:It's got one of the best lines from TOS. Yeah that was a great quote, and overall the episode was really good. We even got to see Scotty as acting captain, which was a treat. Dude was on the ball. I can see someone dismissing TOS (maybe ST in general) off hand because of the trappings like the silly hats and the goofy outfits, which is a shame because there's good stuff in there. I remember some decent back and forth between Khan and Kirk during the dinner scene is Space Seed too.
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