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Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Katt posted:

What if our cartoons are just as bad and we don't realise it.

What if like... Bors is our Garrison...

If you're willing to re-examine your beliefs on occasion, then you're probably a decent person... or at the least it wouldn't take a miracle to get on the right path.

I find "Do you believe some people are born evil" is also a good question to find out if someone is an rear end in a top hat.

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Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Zesty posted:

I find "Do you believe some people are born evil" is also a good question to find out if someone is an rear end in a top hat.

Well besides Hitler probably not that many.

sgbyou
Feb 3, 2005

I'm just a shadow in the light you leave behind.

Monsters are made not born, even Hitler could have turned out differently.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

sgbyou posted:

Monsters are made not born, even Hitler could have turned out differently.

Gonna force me to link Dril at this rate.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
if austria had free higher education in the 20s we could have avoided all of this :argh:

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Raised By Birds posted:

Animal Nuz kinda came close to a "Liberal Garrison", at least in that it could get pretty cheerleader-y, but at least you never got that visceral hatred like with Ben.

I actually kinda miss Animal Nuz...

Same, I'm a sucker for animal puns.

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!
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Raised By Birds
May 5, 2013

You've been "thinking" about this a lot, huh, Stantis?

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Katt posted:

Well besides Hitler probably not that many.

I have some unfortunate news for you.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Somfin posted:

I got to the part where there was a real early scene talking about kids loving and noped on out of there. I'm sure it turns out that's part of the dystopia but I've been burned a few too many times in that regard.

Is it worth soldiering on through?

Only if you really care about the other big influence on YA dystopia. Sometimes it's a bad thing that a work is lessened by continuing to exist in a world it helped shaped, but sometimes it just gives a pass on reading something lovely unless you really care/are being really thorough.

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.



Love the Soros ghoul lurking in the swamp there Ben, you mother loving nazi

L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

Gaybies nomination: Most Easily Reinterpreted

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Anidav posted:



I hope this continues until may.

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

Besesoth posted:

Nope. I'll sum it up for you: Huxley loves the Noble Savage, hates sex, thinks Shakespeare is better than pop culture, and says screw religion, opium is the opiate of the masses.

I like how the Noble Savage also hates sex and thinks women who have it are dirty sluts, undeserving of love. Because that's totally the natural belief of man in nature.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012


Ted Rall posted:

You Can Support a Candidate You Agree With or One Who's Electable...So They Say

Bernie vs. Hillary is history, so now the mainstream media is gearing up for 2020 with another round of opinion pieces declaring that "centrists" are more electable than "extremists." There is, however, no evidence to support this argument.

Tags: moderates; extremists; Ronald Reagan; John Kasich; pundits; ideology; Barack Obama; settle; banks; deport; drone;

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Oh cool it's about child molestation now! I assume bestiality is the next things to go into the funnies section of the newspaper?

Clever Spambot
Sep 16, 2009

You've lost that lovin' feeling,
Now it's gone...gone...
GONE....
God drat rall has an amazing talent for making me hate him despite agreeing with his core point.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

First Dog on the Moon: RIP Bramble Cay melomys, officially extinct

L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009


Gaybies nomination: Worst Caricature

Raised By Birds
May 5, 2013

That sure is a shoulder situation going on with Obama.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Samurai Sanders posted:

Oh cool it's about child molestation now! I assume bestiality is the next things to go into the funnies section of the newspaper?

Huh? I didn’t get that from it.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Katt posted:

What if our cartoons are just as bad and we don't realise it.

What if like... Bors is our Garrison...

Thing is even if you accept the idea that our political views are on the same level, Bors is still technically more competent than Garrison. Garrison's cartoons are a mess of labels and images slapped together. He rarely crafts a message that is as effective as what Bors does. The only reason Garrison gets any clout is because the rest of the Rightwing field is so loving dire when it comes to cartooning.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Zesty posted:

Huh? I didn’t get that from it.
Lol I had NARAL confused with something completely different, when it started talking about doing things in bedrooms.

Besides it seemed like a logical progression from cartoons about child murder.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

AGC, but I can’t get over how loving lame Rall is that he called Reagan’s hair “x-treme.”

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

Katt posted:

Well besides Hitler probably not that many.

Demonizing Hitler to the point where you don't consider him human anymore hampers the idea that Hitler was very much just another human with his own flaws and posits the idea that it can't happen again because the literal Antichrist hasn't been born yet.

It's dangerous, because it can happen again and it might even already be happening, but people are in denial because millions of people haven't died yet.

And somehow it isn't a problem until we get to that point.

E-Tank
Aug 4, 2011

Mordaedil posted:

And somehow it isn't a problem until we get to that point.

Is it just me or is that the major flaw of humanity? A few people might realize trouble is on the way but until it's here and actually loving everything up nobody cares.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Lightning Knight posted:

AGC, but I can’t get over how loving lame Rall is that he called Reagan’s hair “x-treme.”

2024 read-along: The Therapist



Mmkay. Rall, despite being extremely wealthy, goes to the company therapist, who will report everything that he says to HR. Rallston reveals the following:

He doesn't wanna gently caress anymore, too much porn.
He doesn't believe in love.
He's broken up with someone named "Kathy" in the past.
He still believes in "real relationships."

The therapist seizes on Kathy and Rallston gives a third explanation for why he's not getting laid- he's overworked at his cushy job where he can take a break to join a race riot or rewrite history on his lunch hour. This joins "not interested in women / questioning his sexuality" and "too much porno" in Rall's desperate attempt to explain why his brilliant, charming, funny, motivated, driven, handsome main character isn't constantly getting laid. Remember that Rall has a purpose to all of this: he needs to make Rallston's affair with Julia important to him, so he needs to make sex something Rallston thinks of as special, despite him being a sex machine who gets eyefucked by all the hotties, and the society he lives in having no real problem with people banging on the reg.

Anyway, Rallston didn't sever with Kathy, and he blames his parents, and her parents, for them breaking up. Basically they had to because their parents were divorcees. Which is a loving weird tack for him to take, really. Anyway, they're still loving, and that's a good thing, even though we haven't seen her. She probably lives in the Cana part of Ralltopia.

I'm not exactly sure what the point of this one was, apart from introducing a whole new batch of obvious inconsistencies into "not into girls and too much porno to want to bang, still actively loving on the regular" Rallston.

Christ, I forgot about this sequence. Rall sits his main character down to bare his soul to us and all he does is whine fake-deep buster poo poo about relationships not being real anymore, maaan.

CuwiKhons
Sep 24, 2009

Seven idiots and a bear walk into a dragon's lair.


I would nominally agree with this but Rall works for Sputnik International so I know the actual point of this comic is "vote third party and flush your vote down the toilet for your idealogical purity."

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

first of all, Tiny Ilhan Omar is fuckin adorable

second, lol "Ocrazio Cortez" yeah, good one ya mook

paranoid randroid fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Feb 20, 2019

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Ahhhhhhhh it’s horrible. I actually read the comic too, ahhhhhh.

I don’t really understand why Rall works for Sputnik tho. He’d make a killing writing terrible airport novels for disaffected 40 year old businessmen.

Pachylad
Jul 12, 2017

SeANMcBAY posted:

Andy Marlette is probably to the right of most liberals but he could be pretty bad sometimes.
Not to deny how bad he can get (even recently I think there was one that was infuriatinglty centrist) but I somehow feel like I've warmed up to Marlette since the Parkland shooting (:smith:). He shook off some of his centrist tendencies there (being anti-NRA, anti-Kavanaugh, etc.)

Also he should get credit for probably making one of the best obit cartoons in recent memory:

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

David Pope x 3:


Feb. 19


Feb. 20


Feb. 21

Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes

I am Pelosi's defined buttocks.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Pakled posted:

Christ.

Gaybies nomination: Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBT) in a Cartoon

I think Nazi comics should be excluded from bigotry gaybies for the same reason Gorrell is excluded from the laziness gaybie.

Of course they don't conceal their bigotry, they're Nazis.

KillerQueen
Jul 13, 2010


This whole book so far just feels like random vignettes, nothing really attaches to any kind of structure. Every issue gets resolved in 2 pages. Rallston's in a race riot, riot gets broken up. Rallston's being followed maybe, Rallston calls the cops on that guy. Rallston's #racist coworker bugs him, Rallston talks to him like nothing's wrong. Rallston can't gently caress, nah it's cool he slays mad puss on the reg no strings attached. All set to the backdrop of the most inconsistent, half-hearted dystopia ever. You could be posting all of this completely out of order and I wouldn't know the difference because nothing builds to anything!


It's cool and good that Benny G drew a rope around Maxine Waters' neck.

KillerQueen fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Feb 20, 2019

Namaer
Jun 6, 2004


KillerQueen posted:

This whole book so far just feels like random vignettes, nothing really attaches to any kind of structure. Every issue gets resolved in 2 pages. Rallston's in a race riot, riot gets broken up. Rallston's being followed maybe, Rallston calls the cops on that guy. Rallston's #racist coworker bugs him, Rallston talks to him like nothing's wrong. Rallston can't gently caress, nah it's cool he slays mad puss on the reg no strings attached. All set to the backdrop of the most inconsistent, half-hearted dystopia ever. You could be posting all of this completely out of order and I wouldn't know the difference because nothing builds to anything!


It's cool and good that Benny G drew a rope around Maxine Waters' neck.

I think it's supposed to be a pearl necklace but check out that literal noose on McCabe.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

KillerQueen posted:

It's cool and good that Benny G drew a rope around Maxine Waters' neck.
I think those are pearls.

BetterToRuleInHell
Jul 2, 2007

Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop

Vib Rib posted:

I think those are pearls.

Worse, it's a fork

KillerQueen
Jul 13, 2010

Ah, you're right. Thought it was supposed to be the rope, but yeah them's pearls maybe probably hopefully.

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HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

You were so close Rall! Three out of four panels ain't bad.

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