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D. Ebdrup posted:And I guarentee you that's only the absolute top of the iceberg, it goes deep. Radium is Mark Zuckerberg's dad. Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 16:08 on Feb 24, 2019 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Radium is Mark Zuckerberg's dad. Never thought he’d make something even worse than the forums backend
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Feb 24, 2019 16:24
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Are we really trying to claim putting words on top of pictures started on SA? Is that a serious thing?
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Feb 24, 2019 17:02
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 since a bunch of old content originated on sa it actually was the birthplace of all internet culture furthermore..
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Feb 24, 2019 17:05
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it's about ethics in meme culture
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Feb 24, 2019 17:47
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Yeah, that was a pretty dumb post. The parrot stays unstruck, though.
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Feb 24, 2019 18:06
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Len posted:Are we really trying to claim putting words on top of pictures started on SA? Is that a serious thing? In Impact? Yes.
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Feb 24, 2019 18:14
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D. Ebdrup posted:Yeah, that was a pretty dumb post. The parrot stays unstruck, though. Every online game community has a real hate on for goons I swear getting the Leet Like Jeff K tag in GTA V means I get shot for walking down the street
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Feb 24, 2019 18:47
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to be fair its somewhat deserved
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Feb 24, 2019 18:49
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sneakyfrog posted:to be fair its somewhat deserved well, I do some mod wrecked EVE Online with hilarious results RIP that guy
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Feb 24, 2019 19:00
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So that's what LLJK means
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Feb 24, 2019 21:17
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lol lol just kidding
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Feb 24, 2019 21:55
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SA really did pioneer a lot of stuff. And a lot got stolen/reposted else where. These days I wouldn't immediately jump to "that came from SA!" but if you've been here long enough, it's not completely incorrect to have that thought.
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Feb 25, 2019 03:21
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OniPanda posted:SA really did pioneer a lot of stuff. And a lot got stolen/reposted else where. These days I wouldn't immediately jump to "that came from SA!" but if you've been here long enough, it's not completely incorrect to have that thought. I've seen SomethingAwful referred to as the sewer of the internet. Pretty much everything flows through here at some point. A lot of it started here but nobody is going to admit they found something in the sewer and dug it out. sneakyfrog posted:to be fair its somewhat deserved Yeah, but goon shenanigans are hilarious.
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Feb 25, 2019 03:33
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yeah like anyone who actually gets IRL mad about any goon shenanigans in a game other than EVE is a complete dingus and EVE is only an exception because people put non-trivial amounts of real-life money into the stuff that goons irrecoverably crap all over, like that's still hilarious but it gives the whole thing a twinge of sadness
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Feb 25, 2019 03:38
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OniPanda posted:SA really did pioneer a lot of stuff. And a lot got stolen/reposted else where. These days I wouldn't immediately jump to "that came from SA!" but if you've been here long enough, it's not completely incorrect to have that thought. It's shameful that styleproject got sold for porn and Mr Tax got nothing there is a ridiculous history of stealing goon made images and putting watermarks on them
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syscall girl posted:there is a ridiculous history of stealing goon made images and putting watermarks on them ** Veteran of the Ebaums World wars
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:yeah like anyone who actually gets IRL mad about any goon shenanigans in a game other than EVE is a complete dingus Eh, still just plain hilarious. Really the thing that makes EVE actually entertaining is that unlike most MMOs there's actually a sense of possible loss. I haven't played in a while but losing too much expensive poo poo can actually hurt. The whales dumping thousands of dollars they may or may not be able to afford are way too into the game but it's the only MMO that's ever held my attention for any real period of time. Granted in that case it wasn't goons making GBS threads all over expensive toys but goons thinking that e-honor was stupid and being as insane as possible. The expensive toys was just bonus. A big reason Goonfleet is so hated in that game is that we won a massive war against hardcore veterans by getting a few of our own vets and then having them lead enormous hordes of new goons at them. While they were obsessing over their KD ratios goons were encouraging each other to lose as many ships as possible in the most hilarious ways. Everybody else was all  ELITE PVP and goons were all like oh hey you just started playing three hours ago? Have 20 frigates, I expect literally none of them to still be not destroyed next week. Have fun and let me know if you run out we have like a million of these things blow up as many as you want. Nobody gave a poo poo what cheap or ridiculous thing you brought to a fleet as long as it had a point on it.Everybody else played EVE Online: A Serious Spaceship Game about Space Ships. Goons were playing Goons in Space: lol i dunno. It's just this enormous mass of screaming, chaotic goons that was absolutely impossible to control. I don't think anything in EVE will ever top The Great EVE War.
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EVE goons basically take advantage of how mid-tier equipment is pocket change to endgame players (about the same in every MMO) and give new and casual players the best stuff they can use and throw dozens of them at anything remotely inconvenient, backed up by said endgame players who actually know what they're doing. Many other EVE corps attempt to actually LARP corporations in the most hilariously realistically inefficient ways possible and try to exploit the new players for petty gains, last I heard.
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I cant help but think that some of them just have a report form section or checkbox for property destruction that just reads "Goonswarm".
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Feb 25, 2019 07:36
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Acts of Goon
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syscall girl posted:Every online game community has a real hate on for goons Lljk for life. Prey actually got me back in touch with a high school friend, fun fact.
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Speaking of stile and lowtax https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcdWlPz5ixk
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pseudorandom posted:Ayyy gently caress you I've got one thing you can stick up your triplo and two things for your estratto. 
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:yeah like anyone who actually gets IRL mad about any goon shenanigans in a game other than EVE is a complete dingus Probably depends on what "goon shenanigans" translates to. I get the impression the goon-trolling of yesteryear wasn't probably always the most mature thing. IMO there's probably a fine line to walk between good trolling and more disruptive to outright harassy-trolls? The EVE stories though are always a treat because it generally operates entirely within the designs & intentions of the game's systems. (or meta-systems in the case of factional espionage.)
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Ghost Leviathan posted:EVE goons basically take advantage of how mid-tier equipment is pocket change to endgame players (about the same in every MMO) and give new and casual players the best stuff they can use and throw dozens of them at anything remotely inconvenient, backed up by said endgame players who actually know what they're doing. Many other EVE corps attempt to actually LARP corporations in the most hilariously realistically inefficient ways possible and try to exploit the new players for petty gains, last I heard. EVE is unusual among MMOs in that a max level player (well there really isn't a maximum level in EVE but that's a different story) can't just steamroll through a crap load of new players with total impunity. 100 new players in the tiniest ships can totally ruin the day of an old veteran in a big ship. Capital ships are probably an exception to that but those are a special case in an of themselves. There are limits on what those can do and they tend to have specialized roles. Goonfleet has a long history of using that fact. The same goes for even regular fighting; a day old newbie can scramble the warp drive of a veteran in a very expensive ship while his vet friends pummel it. That's been a core of Goonfleet doctrine for a very long time. It doesn't matter how tiny or lovely your ship is, how braindead you are, or how new you are. If you can put a warp scrambler on a ship then you're useful and you can do that within a few hours of starting. It really only takes a single point on something important so the Goonfleet strategy is grabbing every last goon who wants to play, showering them in free ships, and telling them to go land points. The other side of it is that if the opposing fleet can't kill enough of them then the landed points and horde of tiny ships is going to start melting things way more valuable than they are. Day old players in large enough numbers can absolutely demolish veterans with enough of a numbers advantage. A new player that was generating wrecks by flying tiny ships face first into the enemy repeatedly was doing precisely what they were supposed to be doing so a terrible KD ratio was exactly the right thing to have One of the old propaganda posters has a picture of the favored ship because of how drat fast they go and it says "My ship cost less than your ammo. All my modules were picked off of dead rats. I don't think my guns are even loaded. I'm about to ruin your day." It's really very common for people to be judged based on a mix of how many skill points they have and their KD ratio on the various killmail boards. Goons looked at that and went "lol you guys are dumb" and just drowned everybody else in gigantic piles of dead frigates. In game it tracks how many ships have been destroyed in any given system and represents it as variously colored blobs that got bigger and brighter as more poo poo got blown up. It became a point of pride that there were enormous orange blobs everywhere goons went. Oxyclean posted:Probably depends on what "goon shenanigans" translates to. I get the impression the goon-trolling of yesteryear wasn't probably always the most mature thing. IMO there's probably a fine line to walk between good trolling and more disruptive to outright harassy-trolls? Yeah, mostly goon shenanigans is stuff totally within the normal realm of the game or whatever it was. Granted sometimes that got mangled along the way for stuff like Geno invasions but it wasn't what "trolling" is now where people just vomit racial slurs or say abhorrent things to piss people off and then go "hurrr i trolt uuuuuuu." Goons got creative about it generally. Like in Battletech the goon guild whatever it was called decided that they were all the sentient bird species that really hardcore Battletech fans freaking hate. They'd run around squawking at the people they fought and sometimes they'd get furious. Really completely harmless and more about jabbing about people taking the game too seriously than anything.
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lmao yeah, I was onboard for squawking in MWO. (Goons also managed to 'hijack' the subreddit moderation.) I'm just thinking of stuff like the time goons raided an ingame funeral (for someone who died irl) in WoW that was taking place in a pvp zone. You can justify it with saying it's in bounds of the game and mechanics, but it does seem kinda uncool in retrospect. (Last it came up in the WoW thread it was a pretty divisive subject) Also, second life raids, which admittedly I don't know a ton about, but sounded like it was kinda more of a thing of loving with people who were just trying to do their own (however cringey) thing. That's sorta why the phrase 'taking the game too seriously" makes me a bit uncomfortable, it can be really dismissive of something that people might be getting some fun out of? That said, yeah, making fun of battletech lore and annoying grogs with allchat in pvp games is kinda not crossing a line. One of the WoW trolls that was a bit more benign I remember & took part in was "Icon Hell" which was an addon made by Lemon King which would place and cycle target markers (colourful shapes) above party member's heads. You could adjust how fast they'd change and some other behaviours. You would normally set them on enemies to designate kill order and the such, or some healers would like to mark the tank so they were easier to keep track of. At the time, anyone in the party had permission to place target markers, so if you had annoyed party members (you usually did) they'd end up in a witch hunt of the responsible party member. It helped that not a lot of people knew about the addon, so it was easy to be like "I dont know who's doing it, im too busy tanking to set them." I always thought it was easy to tune out (I think you had the option in the addon to exclude yourself from being market, but that tended to be a give-away) so I never got why people got so rattled by them. Other more shenanigan-y type WoW goon trolls I remember were the chat related ones; one that'd automatically call people out for swearing in general chats, and another that was basically a chat bot that string along and mess with people who whisper you.
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Oxyclean posted:I'm just thinking of stuff like the time goons raided an ingame funeral (for someone who died irl) in WoW that was taking place in a pvp zone. You can justify it with saying it's in bounds of the game and mechanics, but it does seem kinda uncool in retrospect. (Last it came up in the WoW thread it was a pretty divisive subject) Also, second life raids, which admittedly I don't know a ton about, but sounded like it was kinda more of a thing of loving with people who were just trying to do their own (however cringey) thing. That's sorta why the phrase 'taking the game too seriously" makes me a bit uncomfortable, it can be really dismissive of something that people might be getting some fun out of? Both those things own and modern goons really need to step up their game.
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The Mechwarrior bit was great, because it was the only piece of canon literature that had a sentient race that wasn't human, so it twisted up all the people that wanted to nerd out and gatekeeper the battletech universe and goons just kept poking them in the eye with their own need for consistency instead of playing the game.
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DarkHorse posted:The Mechwarrior bit was great, because it was the only piece of canon literature that had a sentient race that wasn't human, so it twisted up all the people that wanted to nerd out and gatekeeper the battletech universe and goons just kept poking them in the eye with their own need for consistency instead of playing the game. It's such an absurdly minor piece of lore but it's weirdly divisive among the community and that's what goons were stabbing at on that one. The hardcore people are like ARRGGGHH RRAGGHASDGHASDGKLNAG NO SENTIENTS OTHER THAN HUMANS while the people that don't give a poo poo point out that they appear in literally one book, the book isn't in charted space, and they're extremely primitive. They're part of the canon but are completely incapable of actually affecting the main space at all. They're just kind of there, wherever the hell it is they are yet the hyper grognards are like NO BAD.
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while eve brought me to this here forum I remember age of wushu being absolutely bonkers for the antics goons got up to.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:yeah like anyone who actually gets IRL mad about any goon shenanigans in a game other than EVE is a complete dingus
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Age of Wushu is the only game I've ever played where castrating someone and then ransoming their testicles back to them is not only an option but a valid tactic.
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sneakyfrog posted:while eve brought me to this here forum I remember age of wushu being absolutely bonkers for the antics goons got up to. Wushu was great. Turning the hubs into an all-out brawl. Planting fields of lemon so our characters wouldn't load for people trying to deliver carts. Learning how to vomit wine onto people, getting them drunk, then using it to snipe streamers. Getting people thrown in jail for hours and offering to play Go with them. Getting school leaders thrown in jail so they couldn't defend their positions at the weekly tournament. Farming cheap skillbooks that had the same icon as rare ones, then using them to cheat rubes in trades. Injecting scripts into the horribly unsecure game chat, causing pictures from the game files to show up in the chat window.
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Telyra posted:Age of Wushu is the only game I've ever played where castrating someone and then ransoming their testicles back to them is not only an option but a valid tactic. I have ideas for a CK2 mod now.
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Back in high school, I was a 4chan goer because I was a giant anime loser, and at the time Second Life griefing was the big thing. At one point our 4chan crew met up with an SA crew, and one goon saw my virtual Mudkip spandex suit, silently walked over to me, and gave me a gun that shoots a cube that exponentially spawns more of itself, inevitably destroying the server it was on. Like the sagely Buddha granting enlightenment. Someone else who I think was a goon put a cube that constantly spawns images of Bill Cosby as dozens of Cosby laughing clips play over each other at deafening volume in our 4chan shitbase, i managed to find it and took it, then wore it on my shoulder as i flew around shooting digital chaos at furry brothels.
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My favorite gun that was given to me in second life would trap the target in a bubble that would lock them in one place while an image of Picard spun around them and played the entire Picard Song
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I remember a woman in one of my grad classes who would do literally every project possible on Second Life. She was loving obsessed with it, and because I was the only person in the class Online™ enough to have even heard of this thing, I was the only one to ask her any sort of pointed questions like "why would I use SL for a board meeting over a webcam and conference phone?" which were always met with a blinding surge of mid-2000s buzzwords. For our final project we had to do a presentation that demonstrated some sort of proof-of-concept and of course her idea was to make a business in Second Life and show off how great it was by logging into SL in class. And like you might expect, within a minute of her signing on and demonstrating something like walking around, everyone got what was likely their first view of furries yiffing as it projected up on the wall followed by someone dressed like a pantsless captain america hitting people with a giant dong. I never saw her in another class; I dunno if she was so mortified by that experience she felt she couldn't finish the program, or if she decided that this was not the program for her independently of that experience.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Speaking of stile and lowtax
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ToxicSlurpee posted:One of the old propaganda posters has a picture of the favored ship because of how drat fast they go and it says "My ship cost less than your ammo. All my modules were picked off of dead rats. I don't think my guns are even loaded. I'm about to ruin your day."  While we're on EVE chat, I'm headed to Iceland soon and I understand there is a statue of a bunch of EVE / goon names carved into it. Is it worth hunting that thing down to check it out?
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