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Skippy McPants posted:This only applies to California: here's an article with a decent summary. More annual rainfall, but constricted into a narrower timeframe leading to worse flooding and worse fires. Weee! The fires will get worse and will spur more forest care so can be moderately handled. More landslides and flooding, though, and a helluva lot more coastal erosion. More annual rainfall does mean more snowpack, which is good for the state. The big thing I'm worried about is having ARk Storms as 50 year events. That storm is loving brutal and will destroy the state.
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lol it’s been 80 years and yall still got to poo poo on Okies. California’s a garden of eden, a paradise to live in or see. But believe it or not, you won’t find it so hot if you ain’t got the dough ray me....
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someone recommended this comedy podcast about the evil Resnicks, and although I am not familiar with the comedians, it was pretty good, just fast forward a bit after the beginning. https://thedollop.libsyn.com/356-the-resnicks-water-monsters ...the first 5 minutes are about other stuff. there was also this Oligarch Valley e-book from 2013 (that despite some clumsy editing) covers all of it including the Tejon Ranch scumbags that own the Highway 5 "Grapevine" https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Through-Oligarch-Valley-ebook/dp/B00FPGZ59U Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Feb 27, 2019 |
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Don't fast forward, the ads are how they make a living, yo.
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Podcasts are essentially offline media and unless the player you're using reports back, there's no way to track metrics like who listens to what ad.
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Shear Modulus posted:what if they knew they werent sustainable but kept doing it anyway because they didnt give a poo poo I'm not aware on the average farm hands knowledge pre Dust Bowl so maybe they did know, if so whelp. No excuse today though.
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The actual dust bowl (as opposed to the fake advertised one in southern california) is a great example of a tragedy of the commons. It happened because of systemic problems created by farming and land use laws, not because dirt farmers in oklahoma were stupid greedy bastards. ...which undoubtedly some of them were, of course, but that's irrelevant. Government has to restrain private industry when the economic incentives for each individual or company lead to systemic overexploitation of a shared resource, or disaster will happen, every goddamn time. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Feb 27, 2019 |
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How is there not an app that pulls public databases and tells you where the closest nuclear shelter is?
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Trabisnikof posted:lol it’s been 80 years and yall still got to poo poo on Okies.
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Turtlicious posted:How is there not an app that pulls public databases and tells you where the closest nuclear shelter is? Shelters for all sorts of disasters are set up on an ad-hoc or on-demand basis depending on the type and location of the shelter. That said: https://www.disasterassistance.gov/ includes lookups with your zip code or address to find the nearest shelter during an emergency.
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Turtlicious posted:How is there not an app that pulls public databases and tells you where the closest nuclear shelter is? I don't think we still have those.
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Turtlicious posted:How is there not an app that pulls public databases and tells you where the closest nuclear shelter is? Unless you live near a missile silo there ain't no such thing. Small scale fallout shelters were always bullshit. California's garbage for underground work anyway so there's not even any good subway systems to hide in. Best bet is to just move up north, there's nothing on any target maps between Sacramento and the Puget Sound. You're even out of the fallout plume once you're out of the valley.
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tbh if the nukes fall I'd rather just eat one and get vaporized then slowly die of radiation poisoning or be turned into a raider slave in the resulting Mad Max future.
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Fallout shelters are for fallout. If you're anywhere near to the blast, you're dead anyway. The shelters are supposed be a place to hide until the fallout has subsided and you can get on with the business of
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drilldo squirt posted:A lot of people warned you, you hosed it up and then the government taxed us more to save your idiot asses, that is the history of small town america. Those in mudslide, wildfire, drought, and earthquake prone houses should probably not throw the first stone on this one. I’d recommend retrofits.
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Living in an area that naturally might kill you is very different than loving somewhere up to the point that it might kill you.
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drilldo squirt posted:Living in an area that naturally might kill you is very different than loving somewhere up to the point that it might kill you. Well the cool part about the future is we’re doing both to everywhere!
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I don't understand why you guys are so defensive about it, it makes me wonder how you learn from mistakes.
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Sydin posted:tbh if the nukes fall I'd rather just eat one and get vaporized then slowly die of radiation poisoning or be turned into a raider slave in the resulting Mad Max future. could be worse, you could be living in portland which would probably be untouched and then be stuck living in portland forever
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drilldo squirt posted:I don't understand why you guys are so defensive about it, it makes me wonder how you learn from mistakes. It is weird how people refuse to admit that human activity is why mudslides and fire cause such damage in California.
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Trabisnikof posted:lol it’s been 80 years and yall still got to poo poo on Okies. They paved paradise and put up a parking lot
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Trabisnikof posted:It is weird how people refuse to admit that human activity is why mudslides and fire cause such damage in California. Case in point dude.
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Turtlicious posted:How is there not an app that pulls public databases and tells you where the closest nuclear shelter is? If there's any large concrete structures near you with a 3rd level basement that's your best bet. For protection from the gamma rays it's best to just go like 10 feet underwater.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Don't fast forward, the ads are how they make a living, yo. Block every ad everywhere.
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Kobayashi posted:Block every ad everywhere.
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Keyser_Soze posted:someone recommended this comedy podcast about the evil Resnicks, and although I am not familiar with the comedians, it was pretty good, just fast forward a bit after the beginning. They're the same guys who did Feinstein and the Flag which I'm pretty sure was linked in this thread.
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PG&E identified the transmission lines that caused the Camp fire as needing to be replaced in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017. Each time it was pushed off due to the cost of $30.3 million. https://www.wsj.com/articles/pg-e-delayed-safety-work-on-power-line-that-is-prime-suspect-in-california-wildfire-11551292977 quote:PG&E Delayed Safety Work on Power Line That Is Prime Suspect in California Wildfire
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I mean, be fair, where's a massive energy company going to get $30 million and change from?
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God, gently caress PG&E in whatever orifice you would gently caress a corporation inquote:The story of the Caribou-Palermo line is part of California’s wildfire reckoning. The state’s largest utility is now at the center of scrutiny after a series of deadly wildfires that have swept the company’s service territory in recent years. California fire investigators have determined the company’s equipment played a role in starting 18 blazes that killed 22 people in 2017. Charge them with loving murder The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Feb 28, 2019 |
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gently caress you if you're such a softie that you don't literally support burning PG&E executives alive. #GuillotinesR2Fast
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I mean, be fair, where's a massive energy company going to get $30 million and change from? Hey, PG&E asked for a rate base increase, blame CPUC!
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I mean, be fair, where's a massive energy company going to get $30 million and change from?
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Buttcoin purse posted:They're the same guys who did Feinstein and the Flag which I'm pretty sure was linked in this thread. Their episode on Uber is pretty good too if you want to know how they came about.
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no no you see, if regulators approve rate increases to cover transmission costs, that means PG&E can't spend more money than that on transmission costs profits are sacred! You can't spend the built-in, guaranteed-by-law profits on cost overruns!
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Admiral Ray posted:The fires will get worse and will spur more forest care so can be moderately handled. More landslides and flooding, though, and a helluva lot more coastal erosion. More annual rainfall does mean more snowpack, which is good for the state. Forest care for fires is currently already not meetings its goals. There is no ways its going to be handled well. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Feb 28, 2019 |
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Shear Modulus posted:khanna endorsed bernie, which as far as I can tell makes him the only californian elected official to endorse anyone but harris https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/03/dianne-feinstein-2020-pick-joe-biden-1079024
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JesusSinfulHands posted:https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/03/dianne-feinstein-2020-pick-joe-biden-1079024 Biden, a fellow child-disparager, is the natural pick for Feinstein
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Complications posted:You can't expect PG&E to have lower profits from the last quarter, can you? Think of the shareholders man. Creating value for shareholders is the whole point of civilization get with the program Telsa Cola posted:Forest care for fires is currently already not meetings its goals. There is no ways its going to be handled well. have we even started raking the leaves yet????
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Telsa Cola posted:Forest care for fires is currently already not meetings its goals. There is no ways its going to be handled well. Yeah that was my unjustified optimism shining through.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I mean, be fair, where's a massive energy company going to get $30 million and change from? We should give the shareholders that amount when we municipalize it.
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