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Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

oh i found the cspan link pretty fast thanks all though. ..

I should be finished. . . around 1 am?

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BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1100886796332949505

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

CmdrRiker posted:

I really enjoyed his unsparing insight into what it was like working for Trump, but it was always tempered with the reminder that he is a pretty effective lawyer.

Yeah once they got him explaining how much of a system was in place for burying damaging stories it got really :stare: and I hope they follow up on that properly.

All the 'look I've met Trump on several occasions, the man is obviously extremely honest and earnest' statements by MoC while Cohen's like, 'that's great, but I was his right hand guy for a decade' poo poo was darkly hilarious, too.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

oh i found the cspan link pretty fast thanks all though. ..

I should be finished. . . around 1 am?

Just as a general thing, any time you're watching primarily spoken stuff, crank the speed up to 1.5-2x. With some practice you can process stuff up to a lot higher than that (I know blind people using text to voice often are up at 10x or higher) and it saves a ridiculous amount of time.

fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr

Noise Complaint posted:

Twitch is going to have the best video of it. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/387515410

Yep its already up, uncut, and can be tracked through

Oh lord, twitch chat is the worst.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Noise Complaint posted:

Twitch is going to have the best video of it. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/387515410

Yep its already up, uncut, and can be tracked through

all hail our new overlords for well-organized coverage of the legislature:

a video game streaming service

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/KenGude/status/1100888190540496897

Thats a lot of crimes

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Rich Uncle Chet posted:

This hearing was worth it for Meadows complete and utter breakdown.

What a loving bitch.

Really it is yet another example of white people having no concept of what racism is. You can marry a black person, have sixteen beautiful kids, and never say a bad thing about anyone in particular, but if you believe that you are superior to your spouse because of the color of your skin then that is racism. You don't have to be a card carrying Klan member to be racist. There are so many levels below that.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

oh i found the cspan link pretty fast thanks all though. ..

I should be finished. . . around 1 am?

:hf:

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

Id hope the extent of Russian inovolvement and corruption of the GOP/Republicans and infiltration of US govt. and money/funding to conservatives and organizations like NRA.

I mean I hope they’re concerned about that stuff

CmdrRiker
Apr 8, 2016

You dismally untalented little creep!

I hope Trump gets impeached and one of the major contributors ends up being because he bribed a porn star while in office. I want this mostly so I can see how the gently caress they end up referencing that in the history texts.

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.
I know everyone is focused on Cohen, but is this good news with regards to Pakistan and India?

https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1100830261711962114

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


Willo567 posted:

I know everyone is focused on Cohen, but is this good news with regards to Pakistan and India?

https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1100830261711962114

Not really uspol so probably why it's not talked about here

This thread is for crimes only today

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Faustian Bargain posted:

It's not racist if you don't say the n-word.

This is something conservatives legitimately believe.

White people in general think that racism consists solely of "individual acts of intentional meanness". This includes Democrats and liberals and centrists.

Ate My Balls Redux
Aug 2, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Fritz Coldcockin posted:

There is no one--NO ONE--around Trump who would be willing to barricade themselves in the White House and refuse to surrender power to a new President, other than Trump himself.

This story doesn't end with civil war, it ends with Donald Trump being forcibly ejected from the White House by the Capitol Police, because the Secret Service will stand down and go protect the President-elect. There is no reason whatsoever to believe that they would not do their jobs responsibly.


As has been repeatedly stated every time someone comes in here with this bizarre apocalyptic fanfiction, Donald Trump has utterly failed to garner the loyalty of the organizations he'd need to defy the Constitution and the results of a Presidential election. The intelligence community thinks he's a buffoon, the commanders don't like or respect him, and even his Cabinet thinks he's a moron but they keep their mouths shut as long as he's President. The moment he loses a Presidential election, the knives will come out and find their way into Trump's back.

You say this, but I've watched Trump pass milestone after milestone of "what the gently caress" that would end previous presidencies with full throated Republican support continuing. We have broken into full tribalism and it's terrifying.

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.

Tatsuta Age posted:

Not really uspol so probably why it's not talked about here

This thread is for crimes only today

I just saw the other thread. My bad

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Elephant Ambush posted:

White people in general think that racism consists solely of "individual acts of intentional meanness". It's so hosed up. This includes Democrats and liberals and centrists.

Actually I think you'll find that white people, in general, believe in a series of moving goalposts that means literally anything they do isn't racist, and the only racists are other people, people they don't like, often doing the exact same things they did, but those things are racist, whereas the things the white people did are not, in fact, racist, because they are not, in fact, racist, in spite of any and all actions they have undertaken.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009


Time for the chant.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1100889966538833922

Fraction Jackson
Oct 27, 2007

Able to harness the awesome power of fractions
I really don't get why there isn't more pushback on the GOP reps repeatedly calling Cohen a liar.

I mean...the lie was him saying that he, Trump and the Trump Campaign/Organization, didn't commit specific crimes and specific actions. That was what he lied about. There was proof that he lied about those things not happening. He is going to prison because he said those things didn't happen. Which means that they happened and there is proof that they happened. If those things did not happen, then how could there be proof that saying they didn't happen is false?

Every single time they call Cohen a liar they are admitting that Trump did the crimes. This should be all over the place. They need to be asked how Cohen being a liar squares with Trump not being criminally liable for the things Cohen lied about by saying they didn't happen. This should be the only question they get from anyone for weeks.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
Wasn't there a member of Congress who got savagely beaten by police while marching with Dr. King? I thought it was Cummings but he's too young.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

I normally dislike Cumming's mumbling but when he goes he goes, whoo boy

It did make me chuckle a bit when he correctly pointed out that the term "rat" means "snitch" in prison. Cohen is not going anywhere where that would make a difference.

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005




I quit after a dozen.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Crimes?

Crimes crimes crimes!!!

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Your Taint posted:

Wasn't there a member of Congress who got savagely beaten by police while marching with Dr. King? I thought it was Cummings but he's too young.

John Lewis

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



skylined! posted:

He also said Cummings was his best friend.

He literally said he isn't racist because he has black friends.

Some of my best friends are props.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1100891024895819776

Ate My Balls Redux
Aug 2, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Ice Phisherman posted:

Some of my best friends are props.

Carrot Top spotted

Yiggy
Sep 12, 2004

"Imagination is not enough. You have to have knowledge too, and an experience of the oddity of life."

Fraction Jackson posted:

I really don't get why there isn't more pushback on the GOP reps repeatedly calling Cohen a liar.

I mean...the lie was him saying that he, Trump and the Trump Campaign/Organization, didn't commit specific crimes and specific actions. That was what he lied about. There was proof that he lied about those things not happening. He is going to prison because he said those things didn't happen. Which means that they happened and there is proof that they happened. If those things did not happen, then how could there be proof that saying they didn't happen is false?

Every single time they call Cohen a liar they are admitting that Trump did the crimes. This should be all over the place. They need to be asked how Cohen being a liar squares with Trump not being criminally liable for the things Cohen lied about by saying they didn't happen. This should be the only question they get from anyone for weeks.

This has been confusing me all day. I understand desperation in trying to polish their turd of a situation but it was just staggeringly dumb and yet will be parroted uncritically to huge swaths of the public.

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Fraction Jackson posted:

I really don't get why there isn't more pushback on the GOP reps repeatedly calling Cohen a liar.

I mean...the lie was him saying that he, Trump and the Trump Campaign/Organization, didn't commit specific crimes and specific actions. That was what he lied about. There was proof that he lied about those things not happening. He is going to prison because he said those things didn't happen. Which means that they happened and there is proof that they happened. If those things did not happen, then how could there be proof that saying they didn't happen is false?

Every single time they call Cohen a liar they are admitting that Trump did the crimes. This should be all over the place. They need to be asked how Cohen being a liar squares with Trump not being criminally liable for the things Cohen lied about by saying they didn't happen. This should be the only question they get from anyone for weeks.

They're not really talking to people who evaluate things critically or live in reality. They're just trying to smear anything Cohen says and have him branded as a liar. Fox News will carefully edit through what they say and try to use it to discredit anything negative Cohen says. Boomer Chuds arent out there thinking, they are out there saying "this agrees with my worldview, therefore I accept it" pretty uncritically. Have you ever actually watched Fox News? The level of cognitive dissonance on display is kind of bewildering.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Your Taint posted:

Wasn't there a member of Congress who got savagely beaten by police while marching with Dr. King? I thought it was Cummings but he's too young.

You're thinking of John Lewis


john lewis is chair of house and ways committee; he's also 11 years older than cummings

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Ate My Balls Redux posted:

You say this, but I've watched Trump pass milestone after milestone of "what the gently caress" that would end previous presidencies with full throated Republican support continuing. We have broken into full tribalism and it's terrifying.

Tribalism or not, none of the things the GOP has stuck with Trump on have required them to support defying the results of a Presidential election. We heard this fatalist bilge before 2018. Guess what happened? Democrats took back the House of Representatives and the world kept spinning.

And even in the hilariously, laughably unlikely event that the Senate GOP did decide to stick with Trump after he lost an election, I repeat: Trump would need both the unswerving support of the military and the intelligence communities for a successful coup. He would need to be smart, cunning, and have a lot of competent friends. He fails on all three counts. Donald Trump is not Adolf Hitler, he's Captain Queeg.

Fraction Jackson
Oct 27, 2007

Able to harness the awesome power of fractions

pseudanonymous posted:

They're not really talking to people who evaluate things critically or live in reality. They're just trying to smear anything Cohen says and have him branded as a liar. Fox News will carefully edit through what they say and try to use it to discredit anything negative Cohen says. Boomer Chuds arent out there thinking, they are out there saying "this agrees with my worldview, therefore I accept it" pretty uncritically. Have you ever actually watched Fox News? The level of cognitive dissonance on display is kind of bewildering.

I mean, I know that, and you know that, and everyone in this thread knows that, but that's why I'm saying there needs to be a concerted effort to push back and try to reach everyone who is reachable. The real MAGA types aren't ever reachable, but everyone who possibly can be connected with needs to get the message that Cohen can't be a convicted liar unless the things he lied about not happening, actually happened.

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe

Fraction Jackson posted:

I really don't get why there isn't more pushback on the GOP reps repeatedly calling Cohen a liar.

I mean...the lie was him saying that he, Trump and the Trump Campaign/Organization, didn't commit specific crimes and specific actions. That was what he lied about. There was proof that he lied about those things not happening. He is going to prison because he said those things didn't happen. Which means that they happened and there is proof that they happened. If those things did not happen, then how could there be proof that saying they didn't happen is false?

Every single time they call Cohen a liar they are admitting that Trump did the crimes. This should be all over the place. They need to be asked how Cohen being a liar squares with Trump not being criminally liable for the things Cohen lied about by saying they didn't happen. This should be the only question they get from anyone for weeks.

Contemporary politics has nothing to do with persuading people that the argument you're advancing is correct; it's corralling people into a holistic worldview that shields itself from external criticism. Everyone who is not in the GOP ecosystem can see the bullshit, and everyone inside it is functionally lost. You don't gain a whole lot by spending time calling them out.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Ate My Balls Redux posted:

You say this, but I've watched Trump pass milestone after milestone of "what the gently caress" that would end previous presidencies with full throated Republican support continuing. We have broken into full tribalism and it's terrifying.

Hey don't use tribalism in this context

Spiffster
Oct 7, 2009

I'm good... I Haven't slept for a solid 83 hours, but yeah... I'm good...


Lipstick Apathy

gently caress I gave credit to the wrong rep, Will edit my response.

Thanks for that.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Rich Uncle Chet posted:

This hearing was worth it for Meadows complete and utter breakdown.

What a loving bitch.

It’s pretty loving dope that this will likely become his legacy in terms of mainstream, national awareness.

Ate My Balls Redux
Aug 2, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Herstory Begins Now posted:

Hey don't use tribalism in this context

Oh jesus what now

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
/\ Implying that tribes are bad is linguistically equivalent to calling getting ripped off getting gypped or jewed or whatever

CuddleCryptid posted:

I normally dislike Cumming's mumbling but when he goes he goes, whoo boy

It did make me chuckle a bit when he correctly pointed out that the term "rat" means "snitch" in prison. Cohen is not going anywhere where that would make a difference.

Short of actual witness protection, there's no place in federal prison that they can put you where you are actually unreachable if you pissed off people with enough money and connections.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Flip Yr Wig posted:

Contemporary politics has nothing to do with persuading people that the argument you're advancing is correct; it's corralling people into a holistic worldview that shields itself from external criticism. Everyone who is not in the GOP ecosystem can see the bullshit, and everyone inside it is functionally lost. You don't gain a whole lot by spending time calling them out.

I get what you are trying to say but there is a certain irony in describing modern politics as way for people to shield yourself from external criticism then end that by giving the advice that you should not spend any time talking to anyone that disagrees politically with you.

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Niton
Oct 21, 2010

Your Lord and Savior has finally arrived!

..got any kibble?
Great news! Wait no, not that, the other thing.

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1100892042211872775

Pam Northam, the first lady of Virginia, handed cotton to black teens and told them to imagine being slaves. LAST WEEK.

What in the gently caress is wrong with these people i swear to God, how do you even begin to function like that

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