Bernie Sanders: Bernie can have little a surrender, as a concede

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Pharmaskittle: Dec 17, 2007; arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

BurtLington posted:

BER-NIE SAN-DERS

*clap, clap, clap clap clap*

BER-NIE SAN-DERS

*clap, clap, clap clap clap*

# ? Mar 1, 2019 22:14

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# ? Jun 12, 2024 18:42

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

NotWearingPants posted:

I support reparations and Bernie could move the Overton Window by declaring his support. But I think he will do more good by becoming president than by moving the Overton window on reparations and losing.

It's like transgender rights. I support them fully. But I can also acknowledge that giving republicans the ammunition to campaign against "democrats who want to force your juvenile daughter to share a bathroom with adult men" may not be the most effective course of action to deliver equality. But I'm not sure about that either. Maybe in the long run moving the Overton window is actually more effective than winning elections. It can be difficult to find a balance between ideological purity and the pragmatic goal of actually winning elections. It's made even more difficult when any compromises made to win elections are compromises that affect the the lives of real people who are suffering real discrimination.

So, yeah, I don't know.

The Republicans are going to say that regardless of what your position or statements are.

# ? Mar 1, 2019 22:17

Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

NotWearingPants posted:

I support reparations and Bernie could move the Overton Window by declaring his support. But I think he will do more good by becoming president than by moving the Overton window on reparations and losing.

It's like transgender rights. I support them fully. But I can also acknowledge that giving republicans the ammunition to campaign against "democrats who want to force your juvenile daughter to share a bathroom with adult men" may not be the most effective course of action to deliver equality. But I'm not sure about that either. Maybe in the long run moving the Overton window is actually more effective than winning elections. It can be difficult to find a balance between ideological purity and the pragmatic goal of actually winning elections. It's made even more difficult when any compromises made to win elections are compromises that affect the the lives of real people who are suffering real discrimination.

So, yeah, I don't know.

political strategy tip: never give a poo poo about how many names the republicans might call you, they're going to do it anyway

# ? Mar 1, 2019 22:19

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

NotWearingPants posted:

Reparations seems like really good policy to me. You are talking about something that would most likely cost less than the Bush or Trump tax cuts but unlike those giveaways it would have an enormous economic stimulus effect because most of the people receiving the reparations aren't going to put the money in a tax shelter account in the Bahamas.

His policy of infrastructure spending, investing into underprivileged communities, job programs etc. IS reparations. He just needs to say so explicitly.

There needs to be a systemic transformation of the way the government spends money in the long term as part of these reparations, not just a lump payment, in order for an economic stimulus to actually happen.

# ? Mar 1, 2019 23:23

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

steinrokkan posted:

His policy of infrastructure spending, investing into underprivileged communities, job programs etc. IS reparations. He just needs to say so explicitly.

There needs to be a systemic transformation of the way the government spends money in the long term as part of these reparations, not just a lump payment, in order for an economic stimulus to actually happen.

He did that in 2016 and got attacked for not caring about black people. The only way for him to not lose the reparations game is not to play it unless somebody firmly defines what it means first.

# ? Mar 1, 2019 23:34

Food Boner: Jul 2, 2005

remember when obama gave everyone 300 bucks lmao that helped thanks

# ? Mar 1, 2019 23:39

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3: Nov 15, 2003

i legitimately do not

# ? Mar 1, 2019 23:42

a messed up horse: Mar 11, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

Food Boner posted:

remember when obama gave everyone 300 bucks lmao that helped thanks

that was george w bush

# ? Mar 1, 2019 23:45

a messed up horse: Mar 11, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

i think i bought a kitchen-aid mixer with it

# ? Mar 1, 2019 23:45

Ayatollah Hermione: Apr 3, 2007; by Cyrano4747

still waiting for a candidate who supports reparations for Iraq, afganistan, lybia, honduras, nicaragua, japan, and vietnam

# ? Mar 1, 2019 23:47

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

# ? Mar 1, 2019 23:48

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

when is the big thing tomorrow

im gonna watch it

# ? Mar 1, 2019 23:49

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003; no meds = f4

Food Boner posted:

remember when obama gave everyone 300 bucks lmao that helped thanks

that was w

# ? Mar 2, 2019 00:04

taqueso: Mar 8, 2004

~~thanks obama~~

# ? Mar 2, 2019 00:12

Animal-Mother: Feb 14, 2012; RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

Food Boner posted:

remember when obama gave everyone 300 bucks lmao that helped thanks

the Alaskan state government gives every permanent resident more than a thousand dollar check every year. they take it from oil profits. many of the people really depend on it, too.

# ? Mar 2, 2019 00:54

olives black: Nov 24, 2017; LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

Thoguh posted:

He did that in 2016 and got attacked for not caring about black people. The only way for him to not lose the reparations game is not to play it unless somebody firmly defines what it means first.

I'm inclined to agree with this.

# ? Mar 2, 2019 01:01

really queer Christmas: Apr 22, 2014

Captain_Maclaine posted:

The Republicans are going to say that regardless of what your position or statements are.

strange game. the only winning move is not to play.

# ? Mar 2, 2019 01:02

Food Boner: Jul 2, 2005

a messed up horse posted:

that was george w bush

holy poo poo ur right thank u pres bush :patriot:

i think i just spent it on beer

# ? Mar 2, 2019 01:02

Something Else: Dec 27, 2004; to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Bernard Sanders, WIEAD, PBUH

# ? Mar 2, 2019 01:02

Son of Thunderbeast: Sep 21, 2002

I can't be at the rally tomorrow but I'll be wearing my 2016 delegate shirt in support!

BurtLington posted:

BER-NIE SAN-DERS

*clap, clap, clap clap clap*

BER-NIE SAN-DERS

*clap, clap, clap clap clap*

# ? Mar 2, 2019 01:19

taqueso: Mar 8, 2004

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

I can't be at the rally tomorrow but I'll be wearing my 2016 delegate shirt in support!

Ber-nie *clap clap clap*
Ber-nie *clap clap clap*

That shirt would be the sweetest thrift store find in 20 years except you'll keep it forever obviously

# ? Mar 2, 2019 01:21

Kazak: Jan 10, 2012

Wish Bernie would bring back the anime hair

# ? Mar 2, 2019 01:23

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

Kazak posted:

Wish Bernie would bring back the anime hair

# ? Mar 2, 2019 01:24

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

# ? Mar 2, 2019 01:25

Son of Thunderbeast: Sep 21, 2002

taqueso posted:

That shirt would be the sweetest thrift store find in 20 years except you'll keep it forever obviously

lol you're drat right

# ? Mar 2, 2019 01:31

Preston Waters: May 21, 2010; by VideoGames

Bernie is coming to Alabama for the Selma march this year. He's going to speak at the breakfast too.

the breakfast that is honoring Hillary Clinton :barf:

# ? Mar 2, 2019 01:36

really queer Christmas: Apr 22, 2014

is there a list showing bernie rally locations?

# ? Mar 2, 2019 02:44

Son of Thunderbeast: Sep 21, 2002

really queer Christmas posted:

is there a list showing bernie rally locations?

So far looks like Brooklyn and Navy Pier in Chicago

https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com...lyn/2977653002/

# ? Mar 2, 2019 02:47

THS: Sep 15, 2017

etalian posted:

lol that guys signature

# ? Mar 2, 2019 03:19

Tetracube: Feb 12, 2014; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

etalian posted:

very thought-provoking piece from TwigsthePnoDude

# ? Mar 2, 2019 04:22

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

i got a yearnin for some bernin

# ? Mar 2, 2019 04:29

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

It looked so green and fair

# ? Mar 2, 2019 04:45

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

When I built my shanty there.

# ? Mar 2, 2019 04:46

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ThQkrXHdh4

# ? Mar 2, 2019 04:53

Taintrunner: Apr 10, 2017; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I�m not just going to Bernie�s rally tomorrow I�m volunteering for Bernie�s rally tomorrow

give me your energy, goons, I�ve never gone outside to do a politics before

# ? Mar 2, 2019 05:17

teacher_man: Feb 11, 2017

Taintrunner posted:

I�m not just going to Bernie�s rally tomorrow I�m volunteering for Bernie�s rally tomorrow

give me your energy, goons, I�ve never gone outside to do a politics before

hell eyah

# ? Mar 2, 2019 05:19

Eat This Glob: Jan 14, 2008; God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Taintrunner posted:

I’m not just going to Bernie’s rally tomorrow I’m volunteering for Bernie’s rally tomorrow

give me your energy, goons, I’ve never gone outside to do a politics before

gently caress 'em up! i plan to do the same in a less crowded place, also for the first time ever

# ? Mar 2, 2019 05:25

THS: Sep 15, 2017

Taintrunner posted:

I�m not just going to Bernie�s rally tomorrow I�m volunteering for Bernie�s rally tomorrow

give me your energy, goons, I�ve never gone outside to do a politics before

つ ◕_◕ ༽つ POZ THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY'S NEG HOLE つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

# ? Mar 2, 2019 05:32

olives black: Nov 24, 2017; LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

Taintrunner posted:

I�m not just going to Bernie�s rally tomorrow I�m volunteering for Bernie�s rally tomorrow

give me your energy, goons, I�ve never gone outside to do a politics before

good on you, getting a head start on all of us :bern101:

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MaliciousBiz: Mar 28, 2010; I Pay to Poast on Internet

Bernie ~~would've won~~ IS GOING TO WIN

# ? Mar 2, 2019 06:22

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