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Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

Timby posted:

’80s hair, man. Perms were all the rage.

Can confirm.

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corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Angry Salami posted:

They were obviously trying to give Troi sexy uniforms, but none of them did a thing for her. It's not just that she looks more professional in a regular uniform, she looks much more attractive too. It's baffling it took so long before they realized that.

(It doesn't help, of course, that so many of Troi's early hairstyles are... less than flattering.)

she did this panel years ago where she talked about that. she basically said that she had wanted a uniform for ages but they never made her one until that episode where jellicoe makes everyone smarten up and the costume department had to give her one, at which point everyone realized she looked way better in it and they stopped making her wear dresses so much

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
Am I???
Fun Shoe

corn in the bible posted:

she did this panel years ago where she talked about that. she basically said that she had wanted a uniform for ages but they never made her one until that episode where jellicoe makes everyone smarten up and the costume department had to give her one, at which point everyone realized she looked way better in it and they stopped making her wear dresses so much

Yep. And, she also said that once her cleavage wasn't showing, Troi grew a brain and could suddenly teach Geordi and Data about the intricacies of Romulan engineering. Seriously.

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations
Bridge Crew is so close to the perfect Star Trek. I hope they make a sequel that improves everything.

I'm only a few episodes from finishing my first TNG watch. Going real slow through the last few of the final season. It really is clear how much they ran out of ideas with some of these episodes.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

My friend is doing a TNG watch-thru. Today he said "Why does Crusher have such weird lovers?"

And I said "Sub rosa?"

He says "The one where her grandma dies and she falls in love with her ghost lover."

"Sub rosa!!!"

I can't stop laughing.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


corn in the bible posted:

she did this panel years ago where she talked about that. she basically said that she had wanted a uniform for ages but they never made her one until that episode where jellicoe makes everyone smarten up and the costume department had to give her one, at which point everyone realized she looked way better in it and they stopped making her wear dresses so much

Safe to say this definitely, 100% happened after Roddenberry kicked the bucket and not before.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
TNG: The Last Outpost - hard to believe anyone ever felt the Ferengi would make good antagonists. Basing an enemy race on greedy Wall Street traders/bankers wasn't necessarily a mistake, but they gotta have dignity. At the end of the episode when Riker and 'Portal' are strolling along the planet, they're just capering and dancing like play-starved cats. The next episode they appeared they were a lot more restrained and palatable.

Meanwhile, on DS9: I love how affectionate Sisko is to Jake. You never saw Beverly Crusher kiss or hug Wesley, I think. I've become a lot more sentimental to this stuff after my dad died, the scene where Sisko overhears Jake teaching Nog to read got me misty-eyed.

I accidently sat through the Storyteller, which may be the worst DS9 episode. Then I got to Duet, which I think I hadn't seen before (surely would've remembered), but which deserves its strong reputation. Much of that rests on Harris Yulin's performance, though. I sat up from the couch and said "holy poo poo, this guy's an actor", which is admittedly a bit unfair to the rest of the cast.

edit: Harris, not Harry.

davidspackage fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Mar 3, 2019

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




davidspackage posted:

I accidently sat through the Storyteller, which may be the worst DS9 episode.

"Let He Who is Without Sin..." and "Profit and Lace" would like a word with you.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
“Let He Who is Without Sin...” isn’t a good episode by any stretch, but it’s absolutely true to Worf’s character that he’s dumb and pissy enough to inadvertently hand over federation control of a planet to fundamentalist terrorists just because he thinks his friends are going soft and being dishonorable.

This is a hill I’m willing to die on.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
storyteller is way worse, it's stupid AND boring and makes you think that the bajorans are literally a planet of """""simpletons""""

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Pick posted:

storyteller is way worse, it's stupid AND boring and makes you think that the bajorans are literally a planet of """""simpletons""""

As a minbari would say, half truths are the worst kind of lies

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

The DS9 scriptwriters wanted to deliberately make the bajorans nonhuman in their psychology, and them doing things like instantly submitting to their oppressive d'jarran caste system again are supposed to represent that.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Phylodox posted:

Can confirm.

And shoulder pads. We're lucky they didn't give her shoulder pads.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Move Along Home or When Wishes Were Horses are worse than The Storyteller. It works for me because of the Bashir/O'Brien stuff, which at this point in the show isn't a thing yet.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Tunicate posted:

The DS9 scriptwriters wanted to deliberately make the bajorans nonhuman in their psychology, and them doing things like instantly submitting to their oppressive d'jarran caste system again are supposed to represent that.

Right, because humans would never submit to an oppressive social system because a religious leader told them to.

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Delsaber posted:

YOU

I WANNA TAKE YOU TO A K'BAR

A page late but I just wanted to slide some love your way for this

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I've never understood the hate for Move Along Home.

The Storyteller is important on a first watch through because of Bashir/O'Brian but the A plot suuuuuucks

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Oh it's homage to so much more than just Star Trek



Is it an homage to mid-90s FMV games?

Seriously, other than including an actor I recognise, if you told me that was from a Trek fan film, I’d believe you.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

The Bloop posted:

I've never understood the hate for Move Along Home.

The Storyteller is important on a first watch through because of Bashir/O'Brian but the A plot suuuuuucks

Move Along Home is silly, which makes it the worst thing in the world to some people. I don’t hate it either. As far as dumb filler episodes go, it’s no worse than Spock’s Brain.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
Am I???
Fun Shoe

Delsaber posted:

YOU

I WANNA TAKE YOU TO A K'BAR

Also a page late...

LET'S START A WAR
AN INTERSTELLAR WAR
AT THE K'BAR, K'BAR, K'BAR

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
One of the worst things about DS9 Bad Episodes(TM) is that some of them have such great B plots, or little bits in them.

No one likes Melora, but it also introduces one of the best characters in the history of Star Trek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3KqCeusyVE

Meridian is an absolute stinker, but it's got Jeffery Combs buying porn off Quark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slw6_ldBJek

As mentioned, Storyteller is bad but it introduces the best bromance on Star Trek.

Do you want to sit through crap episodes or miss all that?

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Oh it's homage to so much more than just Star Trek



I've never seen The Orville so have no idea what's actually happening, but that gif reminds me of the return of Starbuck scene from BSG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo5EK9M34bU&t=92s

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


counterfeitsaint posted:

One of the worst things about DS9 Bad Episodes(TM) is that some of them have such great B plots, or little bits in them.

No one likes Melora, but it also introduces one of the best characters in the history of Star Trek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3KqCeusyVE

Meridian is an absolute stinker, but it's got Jeffery Combs buying porn off Quark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slw6_ldBJek

As mentioned, Storyteller is bad but it introduces the best bromance on Star Trek.

Do you want to sit through crap episodes or miss all that?

Doesn't Storyteller also have the Odo oatmeal prank?

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Epicurius posted:

Right, because humans would never submit to an oppressive social system because a religious leader told them to.
Yes, yes... presumably one would expect at least some confusion rather than total submission in a widespread cultural system. Bajor was supposed to be a planet with at least a billion people, not a small nodule of a survivor-cult.

I think presenting non-human psychology in television is rather tricky in general and the fact that Bajorans are visually so close to humans probably doesn't help, even if I imagine they deliberately did their makeup design to make it easy to have a ton of Bajoran characters and extras.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

counterfeitsaint posted:

As mentioned, Storyteller is bad but it introduces the best bromance on Star Trek.

Do you want to sit through crap episodes or miss all that?

Every Trek series needs a "best of the rest" compilation highlight reel for these b-plots and assorted moments.

But I guess that's what YouTube is for, if you don't mind wildly varying capture quality, watermarks, useless title cards, stuff getting pulled down randomly, etc.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Comrade Fakename posted:

Is it an homage to mid-90s FMV games?

Seriously, other than including an actor I recognise, if you told me that was from a Trek fan film, I’d believe you.

That's fair for that one clip which was one of the only silly jokes in an episode that easily blew 98% of Trek away, visual effects wise.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Epicurius posted:

Right, because humans would never submit to an oppressive social system because a religious leader told them to.

If you disagree, take it up with the scriptwriters.

Robert Wolfe posted:

It's [...] the first time in a while that you actually feel that the Bajorans are kind of alien rather than just being people with bumps on their heads. "The idea that a whole society would say, 'OK, I'm going to quit my job and do something completely different because this guy says I should,' makes them alien and not human. That was what we were going for.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

The Bloop posted:

I've never understood the hate for Move Along Home.

I love that episode

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


I love the main guy cause he reminds me of Paul F Thompkins for some reason

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
Move along home is actually good and is completely self-aware about its ridiculousness

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Could anyone make me an avatar for Allamaraine Borland? (I don't know how to spell it)

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

The Bloop posted:

That's fair for that one clip which was one of the only silly jokes in an episode that easily blew 98% of Trek away, visual effects wise.

Well, but can you please explain the reference, because I watch and enjoy The Orville but I don't know it either.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


I thought it looked like Wing Commander

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Son of Sam-I-Am posted:

Well, but can you please explain the reference, because I watch and enjoy The Orville but I don't know it either.

Yeah I got nothing.

Gordon gotta Gordon

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?
Look at all these people who have never seen Top Gun.

This comes like immediately after he quotes the movie.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

McNally posted:

Look at all these people who have never seen Top Gun.

This comes like immediately after he quotes the movie.

I've seen it but a loooong time ago and I also get it confused with Iron Eagle



F14s were loving awesome though when I was 12

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

I'll cop to that. That would've been my guess, though.

I have heard they are making a Top Gun 2, so maybe it's time to remedy my lack.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?






For reference.

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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Tunicate posted:

If you disagree, take it up with the scriptwriters.

I would, but I don't think any of them post to this board. Star Trek is terrible at making alien aliens.

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