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wandler20 posted:I want to hear more on why you think Brian Burns "stinks". Stands straight up when he pass rushes, doesn't churn his feet
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a lot of misinformed oafs and ignoramuses will tell you that superstar northwestern quarterback clayton "throwson" thorson is not good at football based on his stats and his throws and four years of northwestern having a dogshit offense but guess what? he's tall motherfuckers. he's gonna start.
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R.D. Mangles posted:a lot of misinformed oafs and ignoramuses will tell you that superstar northwestern quarterback clayton "throwson" thorson is not good at football based on his stats and his throws and four years of northwestern having a dogshit offense but guess what? he's tall motherfuckers. he's gonna start. Is he white and how religious is he? This is important.
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Mar 9, 2019 19:36
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Is he white and how religious is he? This is important. yes and super
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Top 10 talent here flying completely under the radar. Going to be the steal of the draft.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Ed Oliver is the drop that keeps baffling me Drop all the way to 14 plz thx
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Mar 9, 2019 19:43
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Doltos posted:Stands straight up when he pass rushes, doesn't churn his feet He has incredible flexibility/bend and his length probably makes it look he's standing straight up. I think you're completely off on him and should probably watch more tape. He's basically the same as Josh Allen (not sure how you rank him). Compare the tapes, very similar in the way they rush.
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Mar 9, 2019 20:04
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weird Asian candy posted:Drop all the way to 14 plz thx Mocks showing Miami going QB are dumb, and if Ed is there, he’s gotta be Miami’s pick. Him or Lawrence. We’re lacking versatile DL and Oliver fit the bill but Lawrence is the 3-4 NT who comes along every 5-7 years
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Mar 9, 2019 20:23
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Amy Pole Her posted:Mocks showing Miami going QB are dumb, and if Ed is there, he’s gotta be Miami’s pick. Him or Lawrence. We’re lacking versatile DL and Oliver fit the bill but Lawrence is the 3-4 NT who comes along every 5-7 years Where do you all pick? I'm hoping for Oliver or Wilkins but an olinemen is needed too. I just want them to spend the first few picks on the lines.
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Raider fans what are you hoping for? 3 1sts is nice, but I imagine you're nervous about dumb poo poo happening...
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weird Asian candy posted:Where do you all pick? 13! Historically VERY bad for Miami
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Raider fans what are you hoping for? 3 1sts is nice, but I imagine you're nervous about dumb poo poo happening... I think the ideal Raiders draft (pending a trade for Antonio Brown ofc) is a QB going in the top 3, grabbing Josh Allen at 4 and hoping some talent falls to 24/27. Maybe Ferrell or Gary fall. Maybe one of the Iowa tight ends could fit there, or a wide reciever if we don't end up with AB. Realistically there are holes everywhere but like, Center so BPA works great for 24/27
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Mar 9, 2019 20:54
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Doltos posted:Woo boy being banned during the combine stunk cus theres a lot of misconceptions going on right now. I'll toxx 100$ to a charity of your choice that he loving busts and we can define busts and a timeline you're loving high bro hook me up with me your dealer How do we wanna do this
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Amy Pole Her posted:13! Right before us...so that confirms Oliver to Miami. Congrats! 
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R.D. Mangles posted:yes and super Ooooh can he play wide receiver? I think I know just the team for him!
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The Bills have dire need for wide receivers and offensive line(literally everywhere). You could make a case for tight end. It would be nice to firm up the defensive line or the #2 CB, but they really shouldn’t pass on top-shelf prospects in the two “dire need” positions(barring trades and FA) to do so. The goal of the offseason is to get Josh Allen the help he needs to to take the next step.
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Waroduce posted:I'll toxx 100$ to a charity of your choice that he loving busts and we can define busts and a timeline you're loving high bro hook me up with me your dealer Seconded. You don't have to toxx $200, but I'll throw in an extra $100 along with waroduce. Just don't make the charity a hate group.
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Waroduce posted:I'll toxx 100$ to a charity of your choice that he loving busts and we can define busts and a timeline you're loving high bro hook me up with me your dealer Chichevache posted:Seconded. You don't have to toxx $200, but I'll throw in an extra $100 along with waroduce. Sure I'll put nothing down to have you two idiots donate 200 bucks to the ASPCA. I say he goes top 25 and contributes by year 2. wandler20 posted:He has incredible flexibility/bend and his length probably makes it look he's standing straight up. I think you're completely off on him and should probably watch more tape. He's basically the same as Josh Allen (not sure how you rank him). Compare the tapes, very similar in the way they rush. I watched it and I don't see it at all. Josh Allen is more like Von Miller than any prospect since him. Burns looks like a big project.
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Doltos posted:Sure I'll put nothing down to have you two idiots donate 200 bucks to the ASPCA. I say he goes top 25 and contributes by year 2. Sure. Define contributes, please.
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Chichevache posted:Sure. Define contributes, please. Considering WR is one of the hardest positions to develop and contribute at I'd say around 500 yards 5 tds. Actually let's change the charity to the UNCF just so you can get it out of your head that I'm racist.
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https://www.giants.com/news/watch-quarterbacks-throw-at-nfl-combine If anyone wants to see all the quarterbacks throwing and running at the combine. As far as I can tell Haskins easily had the best day, besides the 40 time which was expected. He's kinda got a weird awkward body. He throws a nice strong ball though, a lot of zip but he's got touch too. Someone was saying that he needed work with pressure and accuracy. That's probably true, he's only started 14 games in his entire career in college. He had great numbers though, took care of the ball and scored and he can do that in the NFL too. He needs protection though, he is absolutely a pocket passer through and through and he will suffer on a team that can't pass protect him. He makes pretty quick reads though Compare him to Mitch Trubisky who also had only started a year and to me he clearly looks like a better passer and further developed. I'd be surprised if he falls past the Giants, they seem pretty interested and they can also bring him along slowly if they choose. I WOULDN'T be surprised if he even goes earlier than that when all is said and done. Yes it's not a great year for quarterbacks but that often doesn't stop them from moving up the board. I like the look of some of these linemen. There's nobody like Quenton Nelson but there's some solid guys. I'm surprised some people have Cody Ford so low, he looks really good to me, along with Jawaan Taylor. Good movement skills for their size. Jonah Williams looks more like a guard to me, but a lot of people seem very high on him. He can definitely lay an extremely solid anchor and has great technique. Haven't seen much of the other guys but at the top at least it looks like a pretty decent draft for the big boys. What I want to know is how does this corner class compare to last year or the last few years? I really haven't heard much about corners and safeties besides a few guys Play fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Mar 10, 2019 |
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Doltos posted:Considering WR is one of the hardest positions to develop and contribute at I'd say around 500 yards 5 tds. Actually let's change the charity to the UNCF just so you can get it out of your head that I'm racist. Puts him in this percentile.... 
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Shout out to the goons making tox bets for money for Charity. drat good moves and we need to support this tradition in TFF
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wandler20 posted:Puts him in this percentile.... Sounds about right for a second year wide receiver. Mike Williams was twice the prospect Metcalf is and he only put up 664 yards although the ten TDs was really nice. Metcalf isn't a world beating WR and A.J. Brown is definitely more of a gamer than him but he's not some trash rear end terrible WR. Play posted:What I want to know is how does this corner class compare to last year or the last few years? I really haven't heard much about corners and safeties besides a few guys Not really. Corner isn't that deep and kind of plateaus at around 10 good prospects. Rock Ya-Sin, Trayvon Mullen, Deandre Baker, and Greedy Williams are all solid prospects though.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Shout out to the goons making tox bets for money for Charity. drat good moves and we need to support this tradition in TFF it’s good but I think there should also be a dick related avatar involved
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Ehud posted:it’s good but I think there should also be a dick related avatar involved I'm down.
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Doltos you're missing that people are incredibly annoyed with the hype around Metcalf and draft media talking him up like a world beater. He has potential around him but draft media is drooling like he's Julio.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Doltos you're missing that people are incredibly annoyed with the hype around Metcalf and draft media talking him up like a world beater. He has potential around him but draft media is drooling like he's Julio. I've been seeing the opposite since his 3 cone. Either way he's a real good prospect.
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There's examples in this thread of draft media saying to ignore his 3 cone he's totally elite.
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There's mixed opinions both ways in the draft media it seems. I think he's intriguing and the right offense could get some great usage out of him. Explosive passing plays and the like. I don't watch enough college football to really know what else he can do though, when I try to get video on him it's all flashy highlights of deep throws which is fantastic. But can he play in the slot or be a possession receiver when needed? Can he run a diverse route tree? Can he block? Can he create separation consistently? Can he play without being called for offensive PI in the NFL? From what I can tell there are legitimate questions there, which is why a first rounder seems a bit rich for him. Although I wouldn't be surprised if a team wants to gamble
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Metcalf was the X for Rebs and ran a lot of out routes and sluggos. A.J. Brown was their slot/flanker that did all the work in that offense. It's a good point though for some reason either due to the coaches or Metcalf he was their defacto deep play guy despite being their biggest receiver. It's hard for me to see feet concerns because being able to get to a short out route faster than a DB requires quick feet but he rarely went over the middle. He uncapped one on Bama early this year and then Bama made him disappear the rest of the game by chucking the poo poo out of him at the line. I'm also kinda concerned about his injury history. He's a big guy but he's lost two seasons so far to season enders and he doesn't like contact.
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Doltos posted:Sure I'll put nothing down to have you two idiots donate 200 bucks to the ASPCA. I say he goes top 25 and contributes by year 2. Naw dog you gotta pay to play. If you believe those strong words get in on the action. Let's do 50 or 25 if you dont wanna do 100$ Terms TBD but I'll tentativly take the parameters around 500yd 5td. poo poo he only gotta catch what 8-10 real solid post routes on the year with a bar that low. I'll absolutely take top 20 and probably lose that one but whatever
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Waroduce posted:Naw dog you gotta pay to play. If you believe those strong words get in on the action. Let's do 50 or 25 if you dont wanna do 100$ I'll do 25 bucks I'm not some fountain of money giving over here. 500/5 is pretty hard to get as Kalli outlined before. WR is tough as gently caress to get the hang of at NFL speed and is probably the third hardest position to play behind QB and CB.
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Doltos posted:I'll do 25 bucks I'm not some fountain of money giving over here. 500/5 is pretty hard to get as Kalli outlined before. WR is tough as gently caress to get the hang of at NFL speed and is probably the third hardest position to play behind QB and CB. Basically the third option on every team averages 500 and 5. Shouldn't be a large hurdle if you're a top 25 pick.
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wandler20 posted:Basically the third option on every team averages 500 and 5. Shouldn't be a large hurdle if you're a top 25 pick. Rookie years for the last few top 25 WRs D.J. Moore - 788/2 Corey Davis - 375/0 Mike Williams - 95/0 Josh Doctson - 66/0 Laquon Treadwell - 15/0 Will Fuller - 635/2 Corey Coleman - 413/3 Nelson Agholor - 283/1 Devante Parker - 494/3 Amari Cooper - 1070/6 Kevin White - 187/0 Sammy Watkins - 982/6 Mike Evans - 1051/12 Brandin Cooks - 550/3 Odell Beckham - 1305/12 Average - 554/3 I know a bunch of those guys were hurt or had meh QBs but I think the 500/5 is a fair assessment for a rookie WR, unless we want to wait til year 2. If I cut out that absolutely stellar 2014 class the numbers are even worse.
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Yeah what were the year two terms?
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wandler20 posted:I thought year 2 were the terms? He said top 25 I could also include Perriman's 0/0/0. I also forgot to include John Ross' 0/0/0. Year 2 might be even worse let me see: Corey Davis - 891/4 Mike Williams - 664/10 John Ross - 210/7 Corey Coleman - 305/2 Will Fuller - 423/7 Josh Doctson - 502/6 Laquon Treadwell - 200/0 Amari Cooper - 1153/5 Kevin White - 6/0 Devante Parker - 744/4 Nelson Agholor - 365/2 Sammy Watkins - 1047/9 Odell Beckham - 1450/13 Brandin Cooks - 1138/9 Mike Evans - 1206/3 Average - 667/5 I could up the yards to 650.
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