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BlazetheInferno posted:1) Holy poo poo, Guan Yu survived Lu Bu long enough to steal the kill? 1) Loads survived. By the time Lu Bu had finished with Yuan Shu, most of the northern map was clear. So Sun Jian, Liu Bei, Cao Cao, and Gongsun Zan all made it to Lu Bu. Huang Gai was the only guy defeated surprisingly. 2) Yes, you need to be the guy that kills Lu Bu for the Supply Unit to appear. Guan Yu rendered himself in out of nowhere and got two quick hits in. Also what gives with Lu Bu dropping Atk +2! 3) In Dw3, every unit kills the peons and on Hu Lao I usually have a few 50 and 100 ko notifications about other units. They are worth killing since every 50 kills effects morale. And morale dictates all offscreen battles. In WO4, even ally officers used to just skip past peons like they aren’t there, making them pointless. You also mow them down so quickly they don’t even count towards morale in WO4.
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I didn't even know rendered characters could hurt Lu Bu. I thought he was Leader invincible to the NPCs.
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Didnt see it mentioned last page, but if you ever wanted to get in on a Warriors game, there's two days left on a big KoeiTecmo sale right now on Steam.
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McTimmy posted:I didn't even know rendered characters could hurt Lu Bu. I thought he was Leader invincible to the NPCs. He is on Dw5 and beyond where Xia Pi features. But on Hu Lao gate, he can be defeated by anyone.
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Manic X posted:He is on Dw5 and beyond where Xia Pi features. But on Hu Lao gate, he can be defeated by anyone. In other words, he gains standard Enemy Commander "Killing Blow must come from Player" invincibility, but only when he's actually the Enemy Commander. Hell, I've even seen Lu Bu go down off-screen in DW3. On-screen he tends to rip apart anyone who tries to engage him, but that's because he's really hard to get a good Allied Officer Dogpile on in DW3 Hu Lao. Best you can generally do is the Three Brothers, but that's not really enough considering how obscenely high his defense is boosted at Hu Lao - it's high to the point where unless you've got a really developed character with high attack, your standard attack string may not even make him flinch.
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BlazetheInferno posted:In other words, he gains standard Enemy Commander "Killing Blow must come from Player" invincibility, but only when he's actually the Enemy Commander. Hell, I've even seen Lu Bu go down off-screen in DW3. On-screen he tends to rip apart anyone who tries to engage him, but that's because he's really hard to get a good Allied Officer Dogpile on in DW3 Hu Lao. Best you can generally do is the Three Brothers, but that's not really enough considering how obscenely high his defense is boosted at Hu Lao - it's high to the point where unless you've got a really developed character with high attack, your standard attack string may not even make him flinch. Yes I have also had him die offscreen before. This is actually easy to accomplish. Wearing down enemy officers and then letting their unit get the kill always increases the morale of one or two ally units. If their morale gets to 7 or 8, they will overcome Lu Bu eventually. If on screen, he doesn’t flinch when attacked. Meaning the whole squad can attack him and he will take the hits and deliver his standard triangle attack which wipes about 25% of ally health gauges. But as I said, it’s easy to block his attacks and hit him a few times when he stops. Is DW8 XL worth it? If it’s still on sale tomorrow I might pick it up.
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DW3 he has four hits of Super Armour. So you need a 5 hit weapon or a Musou attack to make him flinch or block so you can block his counter attack. Of course, the thing with him having that armour is he will not bother blocking while it's up. DW8XL is very much worth your time, I'd say
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I usually just get myself knocked into red and then play the Musou Dance with Lu Bu.
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Bloodly posted:DW3 he has four hits of Super Armour. So you need a 5 hit weapon or a Musou attack to make him flinch or block so you can block his counter attack. Of course, the thing with him having that armour is he will not bother blocking while it's up. The other thing is, good loving luck getting 5+ hits in a row against him without him bitchslapping your health bar to oblivion.
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Mar 10, 2019 20:44
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Whats the best Musou game to get on the steam sale? Last one I played was DW7.
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Ulio posted:Whats the best Musou game to get on the steam sale? Last one I played was DW7. Probably DW8XL.
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Maleketh posted:Probably DW8XL. This. It's probably the best of the series, gameplay wise.
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TheTofuShop posted:Didnt see it mentioned last page, but if you ever wanted to get in on a Warriors game, there's two days left on a big KoeiTecmo sale right now on Steam. Sadly no discount on the DOA season pass. 
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Weird, it's $25 in my region. Yay for regional pricing I guess
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I got DW8 XL for $6
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After playing Hyrule Warriors for quite some time I deeply regret first off buying it for my friend for Christmas and also purchasing it myself. These lovely boss fights are a complete deal breaker in my opinion. The mechanics for it are completely stupid and unfun (wait until you can use the one item that works on it during an opening while you can do nothing else  ). They're not tough usually, just an awful time waster at best.I really wish that whoever designed that system was fired.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:After playing Hyrule Warriors for quite some time I deeply regret first off buying it for my friend for Christmas and also purchasing it myself. These lovely boss fights are a complete deal breaker in my opinion. The mechanics for it are completely stupid and unfun (wait until you can use the one item that works on it during an opening while you can do nothing else There are ways around it but they aren't obvious. You can make a fairy learn the knock down skill that auto downs enemies, or use your magic finisher to do the same thing. They aren't great but the game is still great imo.
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Oh, so this is what they're doing with DW9: a Korean Smartphone MMORPG.
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Policenaut posted:Oh, so this is what they're doing with DW9: a Korean Smartphone MMORPG. What the gently caress
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The "target lock" thing in DW3 where your character just suddenly focuses on one guy during a combo sucks a fat loving dick and is so infuriatingly inconsistent. For no good reason it either swerves off to land the last half of the combo on some guy who is already dead, or fails completely to even start during a 1v1 moment, leaving Guan Yu swatting at the air like a loving idiot.
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Just beat Lu Bu's DW3 XL campaign for the first time. The campaign was painfully meh. In other news... HOW DO I GET THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LglbAcxajPY
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Manic X posted:HOW DO I GET THIS: Oh yeah, this exists, forgot about that. Something to do with using Cheat Engine.
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ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:Oh yeah, this exists, forgot about that. Something to do with using Cheat Engine. Only problem with something like this is whoever's on the enemy side of a given map has an automatic army advantage, just due to the nature of the game, needing the player to intervene to prevent their army getting massacred.
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Yeah it's not really ideal for PvP, but it's neat to see it happen. Largely impractical however (except for shits and giggles) since you always lose, even when you win 
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ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:Oh yeah, this exists, forgot about that. Something to do with using Cheat Engine. I get that it’s not perfect. But do any of you know how they achieve this with the cheat engine? I tried contacting the makers of a few of the mod videos last week, but still got no reply from any of them. I’ll put my girlfriend who has never played before on the side of the superior army. That’ll even the odds for sure.
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Hey goons would anyone happen to have a spare coupon for Extella/Link? Owners of the previous game got them.
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Extella Link came out, and it's a pretty fun musou that's a significant step up from the first game. It's still very much for Type-Moon nerds, and the graphics, while improved, are still a little dumpy, but the customisable movesets are cool (especially since the game is easy enough that you can go for what's fun rather than what's super-powerful), you feel like the ridiculously powerful demigod you are (yes, even by the standards of your average musou game), and you have to slog through significantly less of Nasu's turgid, repetitive prose to get to the fireworks factory.
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I don't like the mechanics of Extella Link at all. I thought something was off when I saw that there was no movelists for characters and that they all had the exact same inputs for their combos but once I played the game a bit more and found out that the normal moves don't even matter, that it's all about cycling through your 1 button specials, and then mashing X every now and then I was outta there right away.
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Jack Trades posted:I don't like the mechanics of Extella Link at all. I mean, you can still do your combos between special moves, and several special moves are aimed to enhance your basic combos or provide other utility (like healing and stuns). In gameplay, they function very much like any other DW game's advanced combo-enders except that they're sometimes a bit more situational and you can decide which ones you want to pick before going into battle.
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Darth Walrus posted:I mean, you can still do your combos between special moves, and several special moves are aimed to enhance your basic combos or provide other utility (like healing and stuns). In gameplay, they function very much like any other DW game's advanced combo-enders except that they're sometimes a bit more situational and you can decide which ones you want to pick before going into battle. I mean....you're not wrong, they function the same way other DW game's combo enders do...except you don't need to do any combos since you can just activate the move whenever and the cooldown is low enough for you to just be cycling through them. Which is just boring. There isn't even any dodge cancelling available to you so you can't even really use your normal attacks to attack trash mobs and move at the same time. Not that there's any real reason to pay attention to the trash mobs either, because they don't prevent you from capturing bases or anything like in other Musou-style games. Only the "officers" do. Jack Trades fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Mar 23, 2019 |
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Jack Trades posted:I mean....you're not wrong, they function the same way other DW game's combo enders do...except you don't need to do any combos since you can just activate the move whenever and the cooldown is low enough for you to just be cycling through them. Which is just boring. Then equip some moves other than the direct attack ones, like stuns, buffs, and counters. Being a walking artillery platform is only one way to play the game.
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Jack Trades posted:I don't like the mechanics of Extella Link at all. They actually do have different move inputs. Go to the tutorial page and it lists their combos.
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One thing in Extella Link that worries me a bit is that they may have gone a little too far in fixing the momentum killing a lot of attacks in the first one did. A lot of the normal combos move so much that it can be hard to stay near a target. Chuck and Nero are a bit hard to control in that regard.
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Ended up getting that coupon after all so I bought the game today. Don't forget to claim the free chibi DLC before it stops being free in a few days.chumbler posted:One thing in Extella Link that worries me a bit is that they may have gone a little too far in fixing the momentum killing a lot of attacks in the first one did. A lot of the normal combos move so much that it can be hard to stay near a target. Chuck and Nero are a bit hard to control in that regard. Weirdly enough I think the first game was even more floaty but Link toned down some moves and made others more slippery. I only really noticed with a side by side comparison.
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chumbler posted:One thing in Extella Link that worries me a bit is that they may have gone a little too far in fixing the momentum killing a lot of attacks in the first one did. A lot of the normal combos move so much that it can be hard to stay near a target. Chuck and Nero are a bit hard to control in that regard. I'm glad I'm not the only one who insists on calling him "Chuck."
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Det_no posted:Ended up getting that coupon after all so I bought the game today. Don't forget to claim the free chibi DLC before it stops being free in a few days. How do you claim it for free? I mean, I already blew real money on it because I didn't know it could be claimed for free, but if nothing else, maybe someone else here can learn from my mistakes.
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W.T. Fits posted:How do you claim it for free? I mean, I already blew real money on it because I didn't know it could be claimed for free, but if nothing else, maybe someone else here can learn from my mistakes. It's only Lil Nero, Tamamo and Altera, you should be good. The other chibis are in a paid bundle, yeah.
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Jumped into some DW3XL "Very Hard" difficulty battles with my maxed-out (per base DW3) Lu Bu and... uh... Yellow Turban Rebellion. The first loving battle. Not even farming kills. This is the result of me (as a sub-officer) trying to keep He Jin sentient enough to fight back against the endless rush and not die.  Hulao (or Hu Lao) Gate. Again, no farming here but this time holy poo poo I spent too long clowning around slapping Yuan Shu and Liu Bei, then suddenly had to rush back and eliminate generals ASAP before Dong Zhuo poo poo the bed. tl;dr Very Hard does NOT gently caress around when it comes to making your allies completely useless.
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Op could use an update! What are the current top dogs in DW,SW and empires versions of either? On steam that is, sadly SW empires is not on pc 
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