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Be careful with the deluge as it has a siren song that is very difficult to resist. If you start listening, its melody will haunt you until you inevitably buy one.
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:while the thread is talking sequencers: any recommendations for a polyphonic sequencer that quantizes real-time entry? my first synths was the volca fm and I find that kind of sequencer to be the most intuitive for making melodies that aren’t arpeggios/all of the same note length. I haven’t had much luck finding a stand-alone sequencer that works this way to run my analog synths, though maybe I just don’t know the right vocabulary/search terms. I have a keystep and a sq-1 which are both really great, but neither of those can easily create a sequence like “quarter-eighth-eighth-rest-half-rest-eighth-sixteenth-sixteenth” in real time, unless you’re really good with the rest and tie buttons on the keystep I guess. hope that makes sense! Not snarking, but "pretty much the entire history of digital sequencers." Go grab a Roland MC-50 mk2 - usually had for under $100 - these were the workhorse, go-to sequencers throughout the eighties and nineties. Almost any sequenced music you've heard from that era used one. The whole "simple sequencer with sliders or knobs" like the SQ-1 was big in the seventies and only fairly recently (past 10 years) came back as a model that was being produced and marketed - everything between was digital sequencers that work like what you're describing.
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# ? Mar 8, 2019 20:15 |
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barbecue at the folks posted:Yamaha QY-70 and 100 spring to mind, they're real fun (after a steep learning curve) and do real exotic quantising if needed. I'm currently running a rig of Volcas and a Microkorg with my QY70 over MIDI and find them strangely complementary. Next is coming the Proteus for the rompler strings, maybe... I have a QY-100 and cosign all of this. The QY series is so strangely underrated if you're willing to buy into their basic concept and learn it. You can go nuts changing keys and triggering different chords and the whole thing will adapt your sequences. These sorts of "arranger" features have unfortunately been abandoned by "Serious Sequencers" but they are amazing creative tools.
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# ? Mar 8, 2019 20:16 |
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Transistor Rhythm posted:Not snarking, but "pretty much the entire history of digital sequencers." Go grab a Roland MC-50 mk2 - usually had for under $100 - these were the workhorse, go-to sequencers throughout the eighties and nineties. Almost any sequenced music you've heard from that era used one. The whole "simple sequencer with sliders or knobs" like the SQ-1 was big in the seventies and only fairly recently (past 10 years) came back as a model that was being produced and marketed - everything between was digital sequencers that work like what you're describing. yeah, I guess the analog resurgence has pushed those to the back a bit lol! thanks for this- it’s good to know I can grab something second hand that’s cheap and solid, and that it’s not something very specialized/niche I’m looking for
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# ? Mar 8, 2019 20:41 |
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I personally prefer composing relatively straightforwardly structured synthpop songs and the current fashion for old-timey no-frills sequencers has left me completely cold. Luckily the 1990s hardware is there to be had for cheap, the portable QY series even works on the go without fragile floppies! It's amazing fun for people like me who find DAWs disorienting and prefer purpose-built hardware for arranging a lot of stuff.
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:while the thread is talking sequencers: any recommendations for a polyphonic sequencer that quantizes real-time entry? my first synths was the volca fm and I find that kind of sequencer to be the most intuitive for making melodies that aren’t arpeggios/all of the same note length. I haven’t had much luck finding a stand-alone sequencer that works this way to run my analog synths, though maybe I just don’t know the right vocabulary/search terms. I have a keystep and a sq-1 which are both really great, but neither of those can easily create a sequence like “quarter-eighth-eighth-rest-half-rest-eighth-sixteenth-sixteenth” in real time, unless you’re really good with the rest and tie buttons on the keystep I guess. hope that makes sense! It's definitely on the higher end price-wise but the Digitakt is an excellent poly-sequencer and will quantize input. It also functions as an excellent drum machine as well.
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:while the thread is talking sequencers: any recommendations for a polyphonic sequencer that quantizes real-time entry? my first synths was the volca fm and I find that kind of sequencer to be the most intuitive for making melodies that aren’t arpeggios/all of the same note length. I haven’t had much luck finding a stand-alone sequencer that works this way to run my analog synths, though maybe I just don’t know the right vocabulary/search terms. I have a keystep and a sq-1 which are both really great, but neither of those can easily create a sequence like “quarter-eighth-eighth-rest-half-rest-eighth-sixteenth-sixteenth” in real time, unless you’re really good with the rest and tie buttons on the keystep I guess. hope that makes sense! novation sl mk3 it's pretty much the keystep pro and has an amazing sequencer that's simple to use with 2 cv channels as well as 2 midi out ports and can sequence basically everything it is pretty pricy but i picked one up and have been really happy making it the main controller of my setup
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Gringostar posted:novation sl mk3 wow, that looks really really nice. I had been considering arturia's keylab mkII in the longer term, but this looks like it has it beat in basically every way (except maybe that chord storage on the grid of rubber pads that arturia was touting but I didn't deep dive into the novation's manual, so that could be there too). thanks! e: AND the novation keeps the mod/pitch wheels in the right place even on the 61 key version! wowee
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# ? Mar 8, 2019 23:41 |
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yeah, it's super nice the pads you can setup to play chords or notes and they have polyphonic aftertouch, the step sequencer is super easy since you can record up to 8 notes per step per track and all you do is hold the corresponding pad and then hit which notes you want to play either in a group or individually, the knobs are loving amazing and each one shares an oled screen so you always know what they do and everything but the sliders feels great the sliders are literally the only letdown on the thing tbqh. some people don't like that it sits on a big rubber pad that's tapered a bunch but that actually works perfectly for me since my desk is hacked ikea and it fits perfectly under my monitor shelf
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So Math posted:Bonerjams the Next One https://soundcloud.com/yourcomputer/elevator-jamz/s-dF688
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Nice and cozy. What are you wanting to do with it next?
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thanks that's the thing, I have no idea what to do with it which is why I posted it. If I stay stuck, it can serve as my submission I guess
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My newest piece of gear is a Volca FM. Watching Cuckoo's tutorial right now. My oldest piece of gear is a Samick 5 string bass I bought back in 1995, but didn't actually start playing until late 2010, after I got into the devil's lettuce. I think I can come up with something.
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im_sorry posted:My newest piece of gear is a Volca FM. Watching Cuckoo's tutorial right now. The Volca FM is great, but I personally wouldn’t bother trying to program it, as Cuckoo does in his vid, as it’s bastard fiddly. Can 100% recommend downloading Dexed - it comes with 1000s of DX7 patches you can dump straight into the Volca.
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Your Computer posted:thanks
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I just downloaded a collection of vintage DX7 patches and pipe them into my Volca FM though the usual means. Learning to program FM is fun, but also time consuming, and the interface on the volca itself is just a small step up from the original. Which reminds me: Does anyone here know is there a reason why a lot of cool DX7 patches sound very quiet in a Volca FM? Is there some setting I should be aware of, or is it just some incompatibility that can't be helped?
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barbecue at the folks posted:I just downloaded a collection of vintage DX7 patches and pipe them into my Volca FM though the usual means. Learning to program FM is fun, but also time consuming, and the interface on the volca itself is just a small step up from the original. There is a glitch in how the Volca FM reads DX7 sysex. You may need to manually turn the operators back on in the edit menu, and resave the patch.
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Siivola posted:It's real chill, I like it. It's giving me a jazzy vibe, so you could lean on that and take a solo somewhere around the midpoint maybe? I tried adding... something. It's probably not what you were thinking about but maybe it works? https://soundcloud.com/yourcomputer/department-jamz/s-q4ncm
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Your Computer posted:you're assuming I have any idea whatsoever of what I'm doing This would probably loop super well and make great game menu/area music. Nice job!
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I was thinking something exactly like that, and I think you nailed it. The new section (usually called a bridge, I think?) gives a nice bit of contrast to the rest of the song and keeps the song moving forward. I really like your phrasing, too.
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Hell yeah, I feel like I'm about to take a test in Pilotwings.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:This would probably loop super well and make great game menu/area music. Siivola posted:I was thinking something exactly like that, and I think you nailed it. The new section (usually called a bridge, I think?) gives a nice bit of contrast to the rest of the song and keeps the song moving forward. I really like your phrasing, too. So Math posted:Bonerjams the Next One https://soundcloud.com/yourcomputer/department-jamz I used my oldest purchase DCAM Synth Squad, with Amber on the strings, Strobe on the bass and Cypher on the keys, with my newest purchase EZdrummer on the, uh.. drums. In hindsight I realize this might be bending the rules a bit since DCAM is technically 3 synths, but I hope it's okay Since the combo of synth + drums is so generic I decided to do something in a style I've never done before and thought it would be funny to make some sort of synth bossa nova, though I guess it kinda ended up as being some cheesy game music after all.
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Your Computer posted:Aw, thanks! I don't know what phrasing means but I'm flattered anyway
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Your Computer posted:you're assuming I have any idea whatsoever of what I'm doing I looooove this
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Your Computer posted:I'll consider this my submission then: First submission! Do you want your comment there to be in the liner notes?
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These challenges are basically the only time I finish a track so I'm happy everyone likes it! It was fun to dig out DCAM again too, I haven't used those synths in years and I sorta just default to Serum these days.So Math posted:First submission!
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Your Computer posted:
Yes. Yes, this is good.
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Your Computer posted:Aw, thanks! I don't know what phrasing means but I'm flattered anyway Holy poo poo yo.
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Your Computer posted:Aw, thanks! I don't know what phrasing means but I'm flattered anyway Stolen for my helpdesk/support hold music, thanks.
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I think I'm gonna end up grabbing one of the Behringer 101 clones. Also, have you seen the Behringer Crave. Seems pretty killer for $199 if you're looking for a desktop monosynth with a nice sequencer.
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Oldstench posted:I think I'm gonna end up grabbing one of the Behringer 101 clones. Also, have you seen the Behringer Crave. Seems pretty killer for $199 if you're looking for a desktop monosynth with a nice sequencer. Oh wow, I had no idea that was a thing. Seems insane for the price. Cheap GOOD synths
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# ? Mar 12, 2019 07:23 |
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Wait y’all missed the NAMM posts from a few weeks ago?
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# ? Mar 12, 2019 07:49 |
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I didn't see the Crave one, but drat that looks inviting. It's not out yet though, is it? I saw something that said Q4 2019.
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Trig Discipline posted:I didn't see the Crave one, but drat that looks inviting. It's not out yet though, is it? I saw something that said Q4 2019. Just a random post saying it'll be in stock 8/19/2019 for some store in the UK. Makes sense to space their products out because.. god drat.
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I think it’s also smart of them to be conservative with this since their last few synth rollouts have been plagued with delays and stock availability/preorder fulfillment issues and nobody wants to make “preordered x synth, got it 6 months after I was supposed to” an ongoing thing with Behringer launches.
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Has anyone used UVI's Falcon extensively? I'm looking for a good sample manipulation synth that's close to what Alchemy was, and Falcon keeps getting mentioned.
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I'm curious what people think of the Maschine Mk. 3. I'm primarily a guitar player, but I've been doing electronic drums for decades, first with hardware drum machines, and then in Logic Pro itself. I've also been doing more with synth instruments in my work lately, and I've been running up against the limits of my patience with drawing everything in with a mouse. So I've been looking at MIDI controllers, and I've spent a few days playing around with the Komplete Start software suite from NI. I like it, though I've barely scratched the surface of it. And Maschine Mk. 3 (based on all the reviews and other videos I've seen) looks like the kind of device that would allow me to both do what I already want to do, and also open up all kinds of new possibilities, especially in regard to making my own samples and the like. So, I'm about 85% of the way convinced that it's the device for me. I'm just curious: what do you folks think of it? What might I have overlooked about the device?
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Personally I’d go with Ableton + Push before getting something like Maschine. Granted, I had a Maschine Mk 1 like 9 years ago but it sounds like the Ableton stuff would be more useful to you right now.
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El Miguel posted:I'm curious what people think of the Maschine Mk. 3. I'm primarily a guitar player, but I've been doing electronic drums for decades, first with hardware drum machines, and then in Logic Pro itself. I've also been doing more with synth instruments in my work lately, and I've been running up against the limits of my patience with drawing everything in with a mouse. So I've been looking at MIDI controllers, and I've spent a few days playing around with the Komplete Start software suite from NI. I like it, though I've barely scratched the surface of it. And Maschine Mk. 3 (based on all the reviews and other videos I've seen) looks like the kind of device that would allow me to both do what I already want to do, and also open up all kinds of new possibilities, especially in regard to making my own samples and the like. So, I'm about 85% of the way convinced that it's the device for me. I'm just curious: what do you folks think of it? What might I have overlooked about the device? What DAW are you using currently? If you are using Ableton, I would definitely take a look at the Push2 like EB suggested. I have the Push2 and absolutely love it as a MIDI controller, especially for drums. I know I have barely scratched the surface of its capabilities, but it is definitely the centerpiece of my workflow.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:I think it’s also smart of them to be conservative with this since their last few synth rollouts have been plagued with delays and stock availability/preorder fulfillment issues and nobody wants to make “preordered x synth, got it 6 months after I was supposed to” an ongoing thing with Behringer launches. Supposedly their Odyssey (why they wasted time and resources making this when the KARP exists and isn’t terribly expensive is beyond me) and VC340 are now in full production, which hopefully means my VC340 preorder should ship soon. I’m still waiting for the 808 and the blue 101 clone to drop (I want a blue 101, not a big fan of red)
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