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Flayer posted:Echo chamber not echoing enough for you is it? The guy is a loving moron but don't start calling for people to be banned because you don't like their politics. Having your viewpoints challenged is healthy. I'm sure the Muslim posters in this thread are really enjoying the health benefits of being told they deserve to be put in concentration camps.
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Darth Walrus posted:It's seriousposting, but it's not sincereposting. Dude was just frantically deflecting away from his transparently obvious lust for Muslim genocide. You see it a lot when Nazis who are trying to fit in get called out - they're so blinded by entitled rage that they can't even muster a decent defence even if they know they should. Click the link. He was banned too.
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Fuschia tude posted:Click the link. He was banned too. Ah, seems to be a new decision. At the time of my post, he'd only got the month-long probe.
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Grape posted:That post was so insanely terrible I think we really could go for at least one more page of different posters dunking on it, so lurkers please feel free to chip in. The post was bad, and he should feel bad. Hth.
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svenkatesh posted:I didn't say that India was the best place for Muslims. I know I'm late to the "gently caress this poster" party and speaking to the choir here but a quick note on "Moving to the north": There is an entire era of African American history called The Great Migration, in which black people moved north away from the segregated south. This is when those confederate statues started getting erected way up north in places like Ohio, as northern whites suddenly decided that the confederacy was their heritage, too. Many black people moved back to the south after seeing how racist the north was-- at least down south, they're close to their family.
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Mar 11, 2019 18:54
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In Algeria news: Elections postponed Boutef did a cabinet shuffle He is not running for a fifth term An independent election committee is going to be appointed to oversee the elections when they happen. A Committee for Reform will be held before the end of 2019.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:In Algeria news: Are elections even fair over there? why did bouteflika run for 5 terms when he could have set up a puppet?
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Boutef legitimately enioys(ed) widespread support in Algeria thanks to presiding over the 90s civil war and for his actions during. And a majority of the voting population (age 30+) remembers that period. The problem with a puppet is that the FLN leadership outside Boutef are seen as incompetent and corrupt, the people would only accept him. As for fairness in Elections, its never really been investigated, nor have there been any scandals, aside from accusations from other candidates and parties. Its a mystery box, but signs point to not really.
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https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/st...ingawful.com%2F On top of this clusterfuck the Taliban wiped out a different base on Monday killing and/or capturing 50 Afghan soldiers.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:In Algeria news: unless I'm mistaken the elections were postponed due to all the people protesting his 5th term announcement. so even saying oh okay I won't do it but we're not ready for elections smells like a backdoor way to get the original plan where Bouteflika would resign one year into his 5th term. honestly this is a hella mess brewing if the people behind the scenes can't come to an agreement on a successor
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Bit of personal news, but it's in part thanks to this very forum and thread:quote:Bellingcat deal leaves Bloomsbury purring It all started here (and the Guardian Middle East Live Blog), with obsessively daily posts on Libya. And while you're reading this you can donate to Lowtax's Patreon to save the forum and his spine.
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Mar 14, 2019 09:22
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Things are going great all around in Afghanistan: https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1106187484554252288
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Brown Moses posted:Bit of personal news, but it's in part thanks to this very forum and thread: Congratulations BM, please don't celebrate by tucking into that unlabeled chocolate cathedral you received last week
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Dang that's awesome. I wonder who is going to play helpful forums user Scaramouche in the inevitable movie adaptation. Brad Pitt will be too old, and he's obviously illiterate.
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Brown Moses posted:Bit of personal news, but it's in part thanks to this very forum and thread: holy poo poo it's blown up since the latest spinectomy developments  also congratulations to you and your CIA handlers
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Mar 15, 2019 01:56
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Brown Moses posted:It all started here (and the Guardian Middle East Live Blog), with obsessively daily posts on Libya. I thought then and I still think the photos you were posting in D&D and GBS were excessive. I am glad Lowtax is up to 13k a month.
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Ardennes posted:I thought then and I still think the photos you were posting in D&D and GBS were excessive. This is the first time I’ve seen a ‘you post too much’ take. Or I’m completely misreading this. Edit: this is supposed to be tongue in cheek and rereading it I sound snarky. Had a mental image in my head going ‘you should take it easy BM, toiling in the internet mines is tough.’ Dreissi fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Mar 15, 2019 |
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Mar 15, 2019 12:33
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Dreissi posted:This is the first time I’ve seen a ‘you post too much’ take. Or I’m completely misreading this. It is less the amount of images ( although they were quite a lot) but the content. My post was literal.
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Ardennes posted:It is less the amount of images ( although they were quite a lot) but the content. My post was literal. What content are we talking about? I was lurking in this thread around then, but I don’t remember anything particularly unexpected given it was a war. Or maybe all the stuff in Syria made my tolerance for the horrible the previous stuff not seem so bad 
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Admittedly Syria had plenty of it, but pages of images of death and destruction, especially now the way it turned... wasn’t an auspicious beginning. That said I was one of the few if sometimes only poster that questioned the war, that might have colored my perception.
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https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/status/1107250118267420672?s=19 That's a lot of soldiers and that's on top of this: quote:The Taliban wiped out an entire Afghan National Army company in the same district on Monday, killing 16 soldiers and taking 40 prisoners. Over the course of the week, 44 Afghan security force members were confirmed killed in Taliban assaults in Badghis, in addition to the 190 reported to be taken prisoner. https://twitter.com/Zabihullah_4/status/1107138664012959744?s=19 Alleged pictures of captured Afghan soldiers. I wonder how close the Afghan Army is to collapsing outright.
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How can the Taliban keep their manpower up. And how is the Northern Alliance doing anyone knows?
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Buller posted:How can the Taliban keep their manpower up. And how is the Northern Alliance doing anyone knows? Are you a time traveler?
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Buller posted:How can the Taliban keep their manpower up. And how is the Northern Alliance doing anyone knows? Recruiting is easy when you're winning
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mlmp08 posted:Are you a time traveler? It is unclear if he is from the past or future though.
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Ardennes posted:Admittedly Syria had plenty of it, but pages of images of death and destruction, especially now the way it turned... wasn’t an auspicious beginning. That said I was one of the few if sometimes only poster that questioned the war, that might have colored my perception. I suppose next time there's a massive protest movement against a dictatorial government that is met with the full force of said governments military, we'll have to take it easier on providing photographic and video evidence of the atrocities to accommodate people like you who are busy trying to poo poo on the victims and legitimize their oppressors. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 17, 2019 21:54
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Buller posted:How can the Taliban keep their manpower up. Pakistan. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/14/inside-the-ring-pakistani-covert-support-for-talib/ https://www.csis.org/analysis/insurgent-sanctuary-pakistan
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Volkerball posted:I suppose next time there's a massive protest movement against a dictatorial government that is met with the full force of said governments military, we'll have to take it easier on providing photographic and video evidence of the atrocities to accommodate people like you who are busy trying to poo poo on the victims and legitimize their oppressors. Yeah, it wasn't documentary evidence of atrocities, it was war porn. As for the rest, yeah, that type of posting is getting punished more regularly.
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, it wasn't documentary evidence of atrocities, it was war porn. As for the rest, yeah, that type of posting is getting punished more regularly. You're the most cynical piece of poo poo, goddamn. You really don't see how there's value in posting primary source video evidence of atrocities being committed in Syria when it was unbelievably politicized right from the get go by media that were trying to provide cover for Assad? People to this day continue to deny that a lot of this poo poo even happened because they either just haven't seen, or refuse to see all the proof to the contrary. Luckily for people in this thread, they had a lot of opportunity to actually see what was going on there for themselves as it happened instead of just having relying on hearsay from people with an agenda.
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My comment was about the Libyan War and had nothing to do with gas attacks that occurred in Syria years later.
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Ardennes posted:My comment was about the Libyan War and had nothing to do with gas attacks that occurred in Syria years later. No it wasn't. Ardennes posted:Admittedly Syria had plenty of it, but pages of images of death and destruction, especially now the way it turned... wasn’t an auspicious beginning The gas attacks were far from the only atrocity in Syria where the facts of the matter were "controversial." Every single step of the way it was a fight to attribute the regimes crimes to the regime. From the beginning with unarmed protesters getting gunned down at the Omari mosque and being retroactively labeled as armed terrorists, to the massacres in Homs, Houla, Zamalka, Baniyas, Bayda, etc, to the very existence of barrel bombs, to the double tap attacks on first responders, to the clear deliberate campaign to bomb marketplaces, hospitals, and neighborhoods. Every single one has had detractors and naysayers trying to absolve the regime of guilt with lies. That video evidence was important, regardless of ~the way it turned~ because it told the loving truth. Having that truth as the baseline was what made this thread better than reddit for quite a while. I'm not surprised you didn't find any value in it. Volkerball fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Mar 18, 2019 |
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Can we please clearly warn when tweets are from like....terrorist Twitter Pretty please
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I gotta say I agree with Volkerball. If it wasn't for the detailed stuff BrownMoses and others provided in this thread back in the day, I would have been a lot less informed about everything that was going on over there.
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, it wasn't documentary evidence of atrocities, it was war porn. As for the rest, yeah, that type of posting is getting punished more regularly. ? It really wasn't at all until much, much later in the conflict. This was 100% the watch civilians get shot by militarys around the middle east thread before there was any actually respectable armed opposition. Volkerball posted:No it wasn't. tfw you agree with volkerball. The syrian civil war was a wildly extensive atrocity (war crimes) campaign against civilians for a long time before it became an armed resistance. There was essentially a defection campaign for months before resistance even remotely coalesced behind anything resembling an armed opposition. In the mean time it was a massive loving war crime being documented and the footage that came out of it was only 'war porn' if you consider civilian cities being shelled for weeks straight, and security forces shooting non-violent demonstrators to be war porn and not just a straight forward war crime Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:? It really wasn't at all until much, much later in the conflict. This was 100% the watch civilians get shot by militarys around the middle east thread before there was any actually respectable armed opposition. To be clear again, I was talking about Libya not Syria. If you want to talk about Syria, feel free but it feels like a big misdirection. I actually thought following the gas and other attacks in Syria was useful, but it just doesn’t have much to do with the Libyan War Civilians were killed in Libya, but I don’t remember those threads really covering it compared to the war itself and the carnage that resulted from an it. It was overwhelmingly about the Libyan War in itself. . Ardennes fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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What I most clearly remember from the Libya time period is the siege of Misrata and a lot of pictures describing the shrinking pocket. There were a lot of images posted here of the conflict that didn't involve civilians (or only involved civilians-turned-militia). I don't really know what the line is between important images and 'war porn' is, but I think a lot of the stuff I saw illustrating the destruction of the city was valuable. It's hard to understand how destructive war is without seeing it, at least in my mind. Also, if memory serves me correctly, the Libya conflict escalated from regime shooting civilians to army units defecting extremely fast (when compared with Syria). So that might factor in as well. I don't really have a dog in this fight, and I wasn't trying to start a whole thing.
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Ardennes posted:To be clear again, I was talking about Libya not Syria. If you want to talk about Syria, feel free but it feels like a big misdirection. I actually thought following the gas and other attacks in Syria was useful, but it just doesn’t have much to do with the Libyan War It escalated quickly because that poo poo tends to happen when you use military jets to bomb protesters.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:It escalated quickly because that poo poo tends to happen when you use military jets to bomb protesters. That and the traditional regional and clan divisions in Libya. As per Libya, I remember a lot of it was battlefield stuff with some nws imagery thrown in. Most of the fighting happened between Sirte and Tripoli. You guys clearly jumped the gun btw. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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Ardennes posted:I thought then and I still think the photos you were posting in D&D and GBS were excessive. BM posted about being recognised for Bellingcat and how it has its origins in the forums and you jump in with a scold and some retrospective self congratulations about how you were one of the only ones that knew it was bad all along. What was the point of that? I don't agree with Volkerball much, if ever, and i can see he has some personal beef with you but 'war porn' and real footage from a war are pretty much the same thing its just down to its the attitude and reaction of the viewer/poster.
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