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new friend from school posted:This is a good question that deserves a good answer. And good luck finding it. ICE can't even track the kids in cages today, let alone from years ago. How many thousands of missing kids are there now? 1500? EDIT: I know I'm sounding more than a little blithe with this, but I'm really not. This poo poo is just terrifying and wrong and needs to stop. There are no excuses for this. Ripping kids away from their parents has no justification, I don't care who is in power. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Mar 10, 2019 |
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Taerkar posted:I want to say that they were claiming the parents were unrelated if they didn't have any documentation proving the kid(s) was theirs. Of course what the appropriate documentation was was up to the border official soooo.... But only certain combinations.
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We've had numerous govt officials come out and say that 1) it was a policy that came down from (most likely) Sessions personally and 2) that institutionally it was implemented because they thought parents knowing that their kids will be taken from them would act as a credible deterrent, which shockingly 3) it didn't work nearly at all as even intended
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At least this guy got a somewhat decent sentence https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1104880340353585152 We can only hope https://twitter.com/SeanMcElwee/status/1104877918004629505 Trump, Crimes, etc https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1104843352610988032 Good point https://twitter.com/DavMicRot/status/1104241445412564993 Nunes is a clown https://twitter.com/andylevy/status/1104837558213718018 This is terrible https://twitter.com/sciam/status/1104894746223394816 Carlson has the worst takes on everything https://twitter.com/Hal9O0/status/1104894054024790018 Good sign for 2020 hopefully https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/1104892645309145090
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Blue Footed Booby posted:There are more possibilities than "bad" and "totally fine." There's also "really bad" and "even worse." Like how killing a person through negligence is bad, but killing a man on purpose is worse. I'm not going to pretend the gy who killed somebody by (willful) negligence is an amazing hero just because I want to stick it up to the guy who admits to murder.
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Charlz Guybon posted:At least this guy got a somewhat decent sentence quote:The media attention to this matter has exceeded coverage given to many and almost all capital murders, and despite protestation, he will forever be unjustly branded as the 'Kids for Cash' judge.
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would still have to rely on a rapist and two blackfacers, though (and this is coming from someone unfortunately temporarily living here - I'm pissed that everyone seems to just be forgetting slash letting them get away with it all)
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Chaos Personified posted:The dead person might disagree here if they could. They might disagree, but they would be wrong. Nobody thinks that immigration policy under Obama was perfect, but family separation literally is a Trump policy and was not an Obama policy.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:I remember when that story first broke. (Why is an article from 2011 news, by the way?) From the article: quote:Editor's note, March 10, 2019: In recent days, this 2011 story has been circulating on social media with an altered Facebook headline that was not created by NPR. The headline and story published here are accurate as originally published in 2011. I guess that's why it's "news". Just to play conspiracy theorist for a moment, perhaps getting people fired up about events from 8 years ago is a way from distracting them from the events of today which technically can't be described as "fake news"? 
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This seems suboptimal https://mobile.twitter.com/nick_kapur/status/1104981624419172357
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Charlz Guybon posted:This seems suboptimal Chickens should bench more.
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Engineering organisms by selection is monkey-paw science at it's best.
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Charlz Guybon posted:This seems suboptimal Sounds pretty optimal for some true chicken noodle soup.
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I’m on phone and can’t scrutinize this yet but please treat an article with that kind of throughline with a pillar of salt.
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Dont have access to the full article but its an extreme exaggeration from what I read and they basically are squishy and pull apart too easy, but are still perfectly fine to eat.
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I have farm bought chicken do that when making chicken casserole. It's just a thing the meat can do.
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I read the article, guy said at the end he had one of the "wooden" ones and it was like eating leather. And it seems like most of the comments they got came from Tyson - which is spending a lot of money on solving the issue ... through more selective breeding.
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Buttcoin purse posted:From the article: It’s probably back in the news because they just filed an appeal and one of the guys who was in the documentary that he sent away for a bullshit reason killed himself by ODing the last few days
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Mar 11, 2019 17:56
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My mother still won't let me eat Cheerios again because ROUNDUP.
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Grouchio posted:My mother still won't let me eat Cheerios again because ROUNDUP.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I read the article, guy said at the end he had one of the "wooden" ones and it was like eating leather. And it seems like most of the comments they got came from Tyson - which is spending a lot of money on solving the issue ... through more selective breeding. We have been using selective breeding for thousands of years, it is a solid way to breed an issue out of a population. GMO's would be faster and more efficient but people are scared of those.
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(I am on board with GMOs and selective breeding and whatnot, just seems a little counterintuitive. Like, "I'm so drunk and I need to not be drunk ... gently caress it, I'll drink my way through to the other side!") I think the big think was the percents - they said something like 5 to 10 percent of all the chicken they tested had either the intense stringy thing (where it literally breaks apart in your hand) or the wooden texture, which decreased when they slaughtered the chickens a bit earlier. So they're spending money to test for it and remove the "bad" chicken, which they don't like having to do (obviously).
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Grouchio posted:My mother still won't let me eat Cheerios again because ROUNDUP. You should probably just yell at her that you're an adult, before you storm back into the basement with your box of seemingly delicious Cheerios.
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Call me when they stop deliberately making the breasts so big that the darn things dont cook right.
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Mar 11, 2019 20:22
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I have definitely noticed an increase in chicken breasts which have white striping between muscle fibers, have areas which fall apart when you do anything to them, or which are disgustingly textured while a breast cooked immediately next to it with same internal temperature is fine. I figured the first was just an appearance thing and the second was due to rough handling in the supply line, but the toughness has straight up ruined several meals I've made and led me to switch to overpriced "organic" breasts which didn't have the problem. I'm sure they will figure out a solution quickly.
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The solution is easy. Take a little pink slime, add a nice mold, hit it with some chemical science, and Boom!
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FoolyCharged posted:Call me when they stop deliberately making the breasts so big that the darn things dont cook right.
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Gyges posted:You should probably just yell at her that you're an adult, before you storm back into the basement with your box of seemingly delicious Cheerios.
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Grouchio posted:My mother still won't let me eat Cheerios again because ROUNDUP. Are you twelve years old?
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Herstory Begins Now posted:We've had numerous govt officials come out and say that 1) it was a policy that came down from (most likely) Sessions personally and 2) that institutionally it was implemented because they thought parents knowing that their kids will be taken from them would act as a credible deterrent, which shockingly 3) it didn't work nearly at all as even intended Here's Obama's deputy policy director whining how GOP gave Obama no credit for all the family separation his administration did. I don't think Sessions was in a role where he could control policy back then, was he? How the GOP Screwed Obama on Immigration Reform posted:TYLER MORAN
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Russia has a whale gulag https://twitter.com/tictoc/status/1102584552835420160 I'm sure that will help stem the hemorrhaging of youth voters from the GOP...wait, it will do the opposite? Oh, well. https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1105250862228754434 Eh...I don't see it. Trump's foreign policy, is either flailing around doing nothing, or belligerent confrontation. It's very distinct. I suppose one could argue that flailing around doing nothing perpetuates the status quo though... https://twitter.com/elianayjohnson/status/1105221329874227201 Is this a real concern? Didn't the GOP hold their convention there? Is the Democratic convention so much bigger? EDIT: No, that was Cleavland. https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1105124435135213569 I did not know that https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1105150438549053440 Agreed https://twitter.com/dick_nixon/status/1105140940333817856 Things are going to get interesting https://twitter.com/MiamiHerald/status/1105183034020675590 Did Trump appoint a Boeing executive to head the FAA? https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1105250087880527872
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Ornedan posted:Here's Obama's deputy policy director whining how GOP gave Obama no credit for all the family separation his administration did. I don't think Sessions was in a role where he could control policy back then, was he? Shockingly, there's a difference between familys separated due to one member being deported and border control agents literally tearing toddlers and infants out of the arms of their parents
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Ornedan posted:Here's Obama's deputy policy director whining how GOP gave Obama no credit for all the family separation his administration did. I don't think Sessions was in a role where he could control policy back then, was he? Pretty sure he's referring to the deportation of people who were already in the United States and had families here, as opposed to pulling children from their mothers at the border.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Shockingly, there's a difference between familys separated due to one member being deported and border control agents literally tearing toddlers and infants out of the arms of their parents No.
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I respect your inability to understand nuance or detail
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Do yall pearlclutchers actually think a Muslim refugee woman from Somalia was saying that there's no difference between Barack Obama and Donald Trump? What Obama did can be better than Trump yet still really bad VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Mar 12, 2019 |
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Shifty Pony posted:led me to switch to overpriced "organic" breasts which didn't have the problem. You'll just have to eat more vegetables and less meat to counter this problem of overpricing.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Eh...I don't see it. Trump's foreign policy, is either flailing around doing nothing, or belligerent confrontation. It's very distinct. I suppose one could argue that flailing around doing nothing perpetuates the status quo though... This is a classic Marvel Crossover Event move. Dr. Doom, while 110% okay with terrorism, kidnapping, murder, torture, etc., teams up with the heroes when something threatens to blow up the earth, because that's where Dr. Doom keeps his stuff. Cheney is evil, but he draws the line at being besties with Kim Jong Un.
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This is one of those stories that grabs attention because it has celebrity names and "scandal", but is important in wider issues of inequality: https://abcnews.go.com/US/hollywood-actors-ceos-charged-nationwide-college-admissions-cheating/story?id=61627873 A college "consulting" business and its clients have been raided by the FBI for paying bribes to get their children into "elite" schools, through such methods as fabricating athletic ability. In one case, the parents (not named in the article, paid 1.2 million dollars to the "college consultant", who then paid $400,000 to the Yale Women's Soccer Coach to put her on the Yale Soccer Team. There are probably some easy statements to be made about the meritocracy of higher education in the United States. There are also probably lots of people questioning why these particular people were arrested, when there are many people who get their children into universities with only slightly less transparent bribes. I mean, when an admissions person gets an application, and the name on the application is the same as the name on the new library, they aren't throwing it away. But my main questions are: why are these parents so insecure, and couldn't they have thought of a better way to spend that money to get their kid into a college? First, if your parents are rich and famous, you don't need to go to Harvard to be set for life. You can go to pretty much any school, get introduced to the right people, and get a sinecure. Secondly, if I had 1.2 million dollars to get my daughter into Yale...I would get her a private music teacher and start teaching her some (hopefully obscure) instrument early on, and by the age of 18, she would be the only qualified contrabass clarinet player, and the Yale Orchestra would realize they just needed a contrabass clarinet player. With a father who might be giving big contributions in the future. I mean, these teenagers had parents with the resources to buy them special lessons, SAT coaching, "editing" for personal essays, personal experiences, all the things that normally help perpetuate wealthy children getting into "elite" universities, and yet they had to...resort to outright, 7 figure bribery? Those are either really dumb kids or really insecure parents.
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