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Warthur posted:By the time that came out classic Traveller was being sold in the form of Starter Traveller or the Traveller Book, which both had nice cover art. You're talking a literal difference of a decade in the development of the RPG industry. Distinctive is not the same as good, and having both owned the LBBs and worked as a graphic designer, they are not well designed. As far as distinction within the field, you can maybe make an argument, but if I put the LBBs next to a software manual from the seventies you'd be hard-pressed to tell them apart at a glance. Plus it's not exactly like the market was saturated with choices at that time anyway. I guarantee you the LBBs look like that because the person whipping them up was not experienced and put together something that was easy and cheap.
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grassy gnoll posted:Distinctive is not the same as good, and having both owned the LBBs and worked as a graphic designer, they are not well designed. As far as distinction within the field, you can maybe make an argument, but if I put the LBBs next to a software manual from the seventies you'd be hard-pressed to tell them apart at a glance. Plus it's not exactly like the market was saturated with choices at that time anyway. quote:I guarantee you the LBBs look like that because the person whipping them up was not experienced and put together something that was easy and cheap.
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Warthur posted:And if I put almost any other RPG rulebook next to a software manual from the 1970s, the RPG rulebook looks like a complete disaster. I'm talking "good by the standards of other RPG material at the time", not "Good by the standards of all books at the time". Traveller has always had bad design and layout, across its various publishers. Like, objective, people-are-trained-not-to-do-this mistakes. If you feel it's good enough in spite of its flaws, that's cool, but that's not the original point you expressed, and that specific point is what I'm arguing against.
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Just got a mail from Giochi, Age of Steam Deluxe is live. $64 plus shipping, add $14 if you want miniature wooden trains.
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Warthur posted:By the time that came out classic Traveller was being sold in the form of Starter Traveller or the Traveller Book, which both had nice cover art. You're talking a literal difference of a decade in the development of the RPG industry. You literally said those minimalist designed booklets constituted good design for the 80s. That's what you said. I feel that's wrong. We've gotten into a bit and you clearly don't actually think that, so we don't have anything to argue about anymore. 
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:You literally said those minimalist designed booklets constituted good design for the 80s. That's what you said. I feel that's wrong. We've gotten into a bit and you clearly don't actually think that, so we don't have anything to argue about anymore. Doctor Zero literally said that, I agreed with the general point without correcting them because only a truly irritating pedant would raise a stink about it. And why should I steal your thunder?
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Dunno if it was linked yet but Comrades looks pretty good so far? It's a PbtA set in a revolutionary cell.
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Warthur posted:Doctor Zero literally said that, I agreed with the general point without correcting them because only a truly irritating pedant would raise a stink about it. And why should I steal your thunder? What do they call the guy who passively aggressively has to get in the last word to the irritating pedant, I wonder? I'm sure the Germans have a word for it.
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Tekopo posted:Dunno if it was linked yet but Comrades looks pretty good so far? It's a PbtA set in a revolutionary cell. High-concept roleplaying games dealing with contentious issues are pretty hard to evaluate only from previews, because the devil will almost certainly be in the details. Especially with PbtA games, where tone and message are often the result of interactions between various parts of the game. What will make or break the reputation of a game like this is which impression people get of what the game appears to communicate about revolutions and revolutionaries.
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LatwPIAT posted:High-concept roleplaying games dealing with contentious issues are pretty hard to evaluate only from previews, because the devil will almost certainly be in the details. Especially with PbtA games, where tone and message are often the result of interactions between various parts of the game. What will make or break the reputation of a game like this is which impression people get of what the game appears to communicate about revolutions and revolutionaries.
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I GMed Night Witches (although NW has serious issues) so I don’t mind the high concept games.
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LatwPIAT posted:High-concept roleplaying games dealing with contentious issues are pretty hard to evaluate only from previews, because the devil will almost certainly be in the details. Especially with PbtA games, where tone and message are often the result of interactions between various parts of the game. What will make or break the reputation of a game like this is which impression people get of what the game appears to communicate about revolutions and revolutionaries. It's off to a bad start by trying to be a game that covers ~every revolution through history~, because a PbtA game for playing through the Russian revolution is going to have very different moves to a PbtA game for playing a bunch of factory workers going on strike in 1980s Milwaukee.
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I thought Comrades was about playing modern-day revolutionary socialists in the USA? It got pitched to me as 'DSA inside baseball, the game' and I'll be honest, it didn't appeal in that respect.
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Joe Slowboat posted:I thought Comrades was about playing modern-day revolutionary socialists in the USA? It got pitched to me as 'DSA inside baseball, the game' and I'll be honest, it didn't appeal in that respect. quote:Comrades is a game about union organizers battling strikebreakers in Appalachia. It’s about Black Panthers staring down the police to feed children breakfast. It’s about the Parisian radicals manning the barricades of the Commune, ready to die for their red flag.
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Well Whaddya know, apparently you can play all these terribly different revolutions who happened from different causes, reasons and with much different effect, outlook and ultimate goals just the same way, eh? Ain´t that just grand...
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I mean, I prefer the general case to American leftist inside baseball! It's going to depend significantly on how the framework functions.
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Joe Slowboat posted:I mean, I prefer the general case to American leftist inside baseball! It's going to depend significantly on how the framework functions. I don't, because PbtA games are only good when there's a strong relation between theme and mechanics, and you cannot have a strong relation between theme and mechanics in a game that wants to cover every possible revolution, because most revolutions feature participants, goals and methods that radically diverge from each other.
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JazzFlight posted:You mean you don't want a game like that one where you team up with the 3 other factions which are Religious Right, Rich CEOs, or Far-Right Militias? That would also be bad, though my primary fear is more "Revolutions are great and you should strive for them, also here's the phase of the game where you commit genocide and put the moderate faction up against the wall!" which is something that the combination of "1917" and a red colour scheme kind of invokes...
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Lemon-Lime posted:I don't, because PbtA games are only good when there's a strong relation between theme and mechanics, and you cannot have a strong relation between theme and mechanics in a game that wants to cover every possible revolution, because most revolutions feature participants, goals and methods that radically diverge from each other. Yeah, that's my main concern about this project. Vagueness of theme kills PbtA dead, and a game that wants to be about any possible revolution is like the definition of "vague theme."
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Any UK based people interested in a play by Turns submitted via turn sheets posted through the UK mail system. Seems like a rad wee retro thing, check it out. Check out FAQ for details about how it's gonna be run. The Isles, Fantasy Play By Mai
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WereGoat posted:Any UK based people interested in a play by I vaguely remember this game from the first time around, although I never played it - I think it was right at the end of its life as I got into the hobby. It's almost hard to believe now that there were once close to 300 active PBM games in the UK - and even harder to believe that KJC Games is still around. But its time has passed, and there's no way a Kickstarter campaign can make a PBM game work anyway because they depend on subscriptions. I wish the guy luck, but I'm not backing it.
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 Swordsfall Swordsfall isn't just a story, it's a world. It's a dive into pre-colonial Africa for all the rich lore you've never heard of. It's an exploration into a world where the majority of the faces are dark, yet isn't constrained to one corner. It's a world where women hold power equal to men and the merit of ones soul is what propels them through life. It's a world where spirits aren't to be feared, they are to be embraced. In a time where we know that representation matters, this project is an effort to add to that spirit in the way I know best. Narrative fiction in the nerdiest of flavors.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thedragonstomb/offensive-adult-party-game-by-the-dragons-tomb
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I'm really excited for this. I've posted numerous times in the past about Dreamforge Games which afaik is only run by a single dude who designs everything and then hires out the production to a factory in China, and has made some really impressive kits in the past. Well, due to not selling everything produced during the initial kickstarter 7 years ago, he's switching to a different model(heh). Instead of having a bunch of stuff made and selling it later, he's factoring in all profits and costs into the kickstarter itself, and barring a few hundred extras made afterwards, only those produced for the kickstarter will be made, meaning each run will be very limited. Each kickstarter will be for a single thing, first up is the Eisenkern Grav-Stug, a grav-tank. In the future I expect him to do the Shadokesh after that. All of the miniatures I have purchased from him have been of the highest quality, rivaling GW's at the time, and I expect these to be similar. [b]he has made a really thorough rundown of what he'll be doing with this kickstarter on his site's blog, it's pretty fascinating. I really hope it does well and encourages more of this sort of thing later. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjz-xdvpt6U&hd=1
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Hey folks! I've just launched my new kickstarter - Mysthea: Legends From the Borderlands. It's a PBTA game about divided loyalties and post-war rebuilding in a geomantic fantasy world.  We've built on the core setup for Legacy, with players controlling a House working to rebuild this city as well as a ground-level hero getting caught up in the city's drama and conflicts. As you play you'll build up your map of the city, master the strange arcane arts of Qoam crystals, and deal with your patron's agendas for this land. It's a little bit Dragon Age 2, a little bit Final Fantasy 12, and a little bit Steven Universe, and I'm very excited to see how this campaign goes. You can check out the kickstarter page here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1549920133/mysthea-legends-from-the-borderlands We're also putting the final touches together on a quickstart that'll give you a taste of the mechanics and jump straight into the setting. Look forward to it soon!
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Flavivirus posted:Hey folks! I've just launched my new kickstarter - Mysthea: Legends From the Borderlands. It's a PBTA game about divided loyalties and post-war rebuilding in a geomantic fantasy world. Owns holy poo poo owns.
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slap me and kiss me posted:Owns holy poo poo owns. Yeah, backing that was a gimme.
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Flavivirus posted:Hey folks! I've just launched my new kickstarter - Mysthea: Legends From the Borderlands. It's a PBTA game about divided loyalties and post-war rebuilding in a geomantic fantasy world. Backing the gently caress out of this as soon as I get home.
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Comrades is all about rebellion and infighting. Best classes I've seen in ages.
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I don't think you need to back this, but it's a nice read while you drink some coffee. Offensive Adult Party Game
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lotta effort for one joke. if they manage to filch 4.5 grand off morons then more power to'em
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Captain Invictus posted:lotta effort for one joke. if they manage to filch 4.5 grand off morons then more power to'em I can almost imagine buying a copy so I could trot it out whenever someone asks me to play Cards Against Humanity.
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and then you would be That Guy. you never wanna be That Guy.
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Better than being roped into CaH though.
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Monte Cook is looking to get some of that sweet sweet 5e money.
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Flavivirus posted:
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Nemesis Of Moles posted:This looks cool as gently caress Funded too, as of an hour ago!
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