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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Guavanaut posted:

Appleby Parva for UK legislative capital.

Sounds delicious


E: 13/9, 6 months from now. The date we'll all look back and laugh at how silly all of this was

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Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

AceOfFlames posted:

Really? I thought it was much higher. Sorry for the privileged ranting.

On a related note, is it just me or is your mental health system poo poo? I can't help but think my therapist expects me to positive think and self soothe my way out of depression.

Posting here because you might see it and I don't have pm.

I am not Dutch but I live here for a decade. As a deluxe immigrant aka expat there is something you need to consider when interacting with the help services.

The Dutch health experience differs from the surrounding countries in two aspects. First, there is an expectation that patients will just 'tough out' mild ailments. This is one of the reasons why the Dutch prescribe far less medication than in other countries. If it can be healed by staying in bed for a long time even if you're uncomfortable, the GP will resist prescribing medication if it might have any sort of side effects. The second is that patients are expected to be very autonomous. When I go to my GP one of the sometimes dumb sounding questions they ask is: "Well, what would *you* want to do about this?". If you think that you are not being taken seriously or that you want to pursue a particular treatment you really have to spell it out. In other countries the doctors tell you what you need and are much quicker in giving you (expensive) full services, here you kind of have to ask for it.

This is something that international students need explained when they come for a year or two. Anectode time: a very nice lady I know well comes from Latvia and worked at my old employer for several years. Some time she had a cold that just didn't go away. She went to the GP and he told her to take it slow and it'd go away. Not being Dutch, she does not question the doctor and does what he says. Cold doesn't go away, doctor tells her to rest, she does what the doctor says. End result: on a vacation she falls unconscious and is hospitalised. Turns out she had pneumonia all the time and now has developed asthma as a result of the prolonged disease. She's considering to sue the practice. In all fairness, the practice apparently has had a bad reputation already y but her not being assertive enough didn't help.

Moral of the story: unless compared in some contexts to Germans, the Dutch are very direct in stating what they think and need. So when you go to the doctor do not hesitate to state if you are having doubts or second thoughts because they will not wait for some body language cues or something, they need it spelled out. And they won't take offense.

So if you feel like you're not feeling better, do tell that to your practitioner.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Mr. Nemo posted:

Keep going, I’m almost there

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

It might be close to the center of mass of england given england's fat at the bottom.

Don't forget more than 50% (I think getting close to 70%) of the population of the entire UK live within the "Industrial Coffin" - the area roughly bounded by London, Birmingham, Liverpool and Leeds.

The ggeographc centre of Great Britain might be somewhere in Cumbria but the centre of the population is probably somewhere between Birmingham and Sheffield, if not even further south (12% of the population of the UK live in London alone, and another 10% in the Home Counties).

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


xtothez posted:

What was the effect of the amendment that the government are so scared of? Also why can't Dromey push it instead?

No No Deal ever, instead of the motion as stands which just says no No Deal on the 29th

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




forkboy84 posted:

They should put Parliament in Inverness because it's the only way that we'll ever get upgrades to our transport infrastructure.

The best thing we can do for Invernesses transport infrastructure would be to close all the roads into it.

I do love that Inverness is generally not consider 'mainland UK' by a lot of delivery companies.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
:captainpop:

goddamnedtwisto posted:

The ggeographc centre of Great Britain might be somewhere in Cumbria but the centre of the population is probably somewhere between Birmingham and Sheffield, if not even further south (12% of the population of the UK live in London alone, and another 10% in the Home Counties).
It's in West Leicestershire, used to be in South Derbyshire.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Julio Cruz posted:

...MK is on the West Coast Main Line which goes into Euston?

It is but if you're coming from anywhere east/west or not along the M6/M1 then the rail route is gonna be convoluted. Even then Oxford which is about 35 miles away as the crow flies, you have to go up to birmingham and then back down to MK if you want to do it by train.

minema
May 31, 2011
I'm impressed right now at the mental health services in my area. I filled in an online self referral form yesterday and got a phone call today to make an assessment appointment within walking distance of me on Monday. This is the service for mild to moderate issues so not emergency needs either. Impressed it's so quick although I assume it'll slow down after the assessment. They do offer an online CBT guided by a therapist which might be enough to get me back on track and starts immediately.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

:captainpop:

It's in West Leicestershire, used to be in South Derbyshire.

lol not a bad guess at all considering I eyeballed it by glancing at a map of BT exchanges.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

WhatEvil posted:

It is but if you're coming from anywhere east/west or not along the M6/M1 then the rail route is gonna be convoluted. Even then Oxford which is about 35 miles away as the crow flies, you have to go up to birmingham and then back down to MK if you want to do it by train.

If you're coming from Oxford you aren't going to end up at Euston.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

lol not a bad guess at all considering I eyeballed it by glancing at a map of BT exchanges.
I finally found a map!



Interesting how little it has moved despite all the changes of the 20th century.

breadshaped
Apr 1, 2010


Soiled Meat
No No No-Deal amendment

breadshaped
Apr 1, 2010


Soiled Meat
Accept the Irish backstop or give us back the 6 counties you brit fucks

I've tried to be nice, but you're all a bunch of twangy posh bollockses

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

nn nnn nnnn nu nnu nuu nuu nuuuu nnnyes. *country explodes*

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.

Bedshaped posted:

No No No-Deal amendment

I don't know what's worse: the fact that this is a readable sentence in 2019 or the fact that I know what it means

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1105880387518189568?s=21

lol, never trust Tory Remainers.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Has any MP or Lord ever been convinced to vote differently during the course of parliamentary discussion?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Bedshaped posted:

No No No-Deal amendment

The rare triple negative

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Bedshaped posted:

No No No-Deal amendment

no no
no-no no no
no-no no no
no-no no no No Deal

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Bedshaped posted:

Accept the Irish backstop or give us back the 6 counties you brit fucks

I've tried to be nice, but you're all a bunch of twangy posh bollockses
74 County Socialist Republic or bust.

Obliterati posted:

I don't know what's worse: the fact that this is a readable sentence in 2019 or the fact that I know what it means
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no ,no ,no, no there's no deal.

e: ^^ haha gently caress

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

Guavanaut posted:

I finally found a map!



Interesting how little it has moved despite all the changes of the 20th century.

The UK has spent the last 100 years moving further away from my in-laws. Curious.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

The rare triple negative

No no, no no no no, no no no no, no no deal amendment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkEXGgdqMz8

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Statistically some of those years it was moving away from something other than your inlaws unless you have remarkably old inlaws.

E: So I went with vicar of dibley and three of you went with there's no limit.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
whens the vote? 7 again?

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

loving Bercow. It is good to see him calling these Tory arseholes on their poo poo

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

bump_fn posted:

whens the vote? 7 again?

Yup

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
UKMT: it's at loving 7pm

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

Gort posted:

loving Bercow. It is good to see him calling these Tory arseholes on their poo poo

He was also threatening to reject meaningful vote 3 as well earlier. He's so good at winding tories up.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
lmao bercow is as close as oyu can get to a tory i like

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Isn't it... kinda bad if the spelman amendment is a red herring? If there's no support for it don't you want it withdrawn?

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006

Azza Bamboo posted:

Has any MP or Lord ever been convinced to vote differently during the course of parliamentary discussion?

Only after being coerced, bribed or blackmailed behind the scenes, what they say in the chamber is mainly to have their intentions written down for the record

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

OwlFancier posted:

Isn't it... kinda bad if the spelman amendment is a red herring? If there's no support for it don't you want it withdrawn?

I think with a GE breathing down everyone's necks, getting Tory Remainers to officially vote on whether they want a no-deal Brexit is a very good idea.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/1105875603163627520

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

Bedshaped posted:

Accept the Irish backstop or give us back the 6 counties you brit fucks

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
Take the six counties, I don't care

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

Gort posted:

Take the six counties, I don't care

If Ireland took you at your word, we would now be brexited on may's deal.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

WhatEvil posted:

No no, no no no no, no no no no, no no deal amendment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkEXGgdqMz8

techno techno techno techno (solutions)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Another finger on the monkey paw curls as Ireland gets 6 counties back selected at random. One of them is Kent.

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baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Does farage come with that?

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