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baka kaba posted:techno techno techno techno (solutions) Nice.
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no, he's not from kent, the confusion lies in so many people calling him that.
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Mar 13, 2019 18:47
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He said "catastrophic" not "catastrophe" Idiot
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Mar 13, 2019 18:52
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Pint time in a pub...although sky news is on... Guess it's better than the BBC. Lol.
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Mar 13, 2019 18:55
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I'm just listening to the parliamentary discussion as background noise. I think Jess Phillips was on recently because I heard the word curridge.
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Mar 13, 2019 18:57
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Question from a non-UK goon: what does passing a "no no deal" amendment accomplish without having a deal? My understanding was that if you make it to Brexit Day without some kind of agreement in place or cancelling Article 50, you're automatically ejected from the EU and no deal is the default state of things.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:02
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Tiny Bug Child posted:Question from a non-UK goon: what does passing a "no no deal" amendment accomplish without having a deal? My understanding was that if you make it to Brexit Day without some kind of agreement in place or cancelling Article 50, you're automatically ejected from the EU and no deal is the default state of things. The EU is open to the UK extending article 50, it just requires there to be a big political change in the UK - a new referendum or general election, for example. Eliminating "No Deal" would mean the government would be bound to announce such a political change if they have no deal to use on March 29th.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:04
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baka kaba posted:Does farage come with that? Farage shall be divided, in accordance with the judgement of Solomon.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:05
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Gort posted:The EU is open to the UK extending article 50, it just requires there to be a big political change in the UK - a new referendum or general election, for example. Eliminating "No Deal" would mean the government would be bound to announce such a political change if they have no deal to use on March 29th. I mean it depends on the text of the amendment, really. Saying the house doesn't accept it might be a spur to alternative action, but just saying it by itself doesn't give the government an instruction, especially as the government has a deal and the house rejected it. I would suggest that it might be relevant to Bercow when it comes to selecting amendments and possibly deciding on the business of the house if the government tries to get obstructive.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:07
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Tiny Bug Child posted:Question from a non-UK goon: what does passing a "no no deal" amendment accomplish without having a deal? My understanding was that if you make it to Brexit Day without some kind of agreement in place or cancelling Article 50, you're automatically ejected from the EU and no deal is the default state of things. Your understanding is correct. It's basically like declaring that pizza is lovely and we like pizza. It will not make pizza appear out of thin air.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:15
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It's like declaring that you don't want pizza when you've already ordered pizza and it's like 10 minutes away. Also half of the group are still arguing about what toppings they want.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:17
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It is a necessary step to figuring out an alternative, basically at the moment the house doesn't know what the gently caress it wants and May has spent basically the last two years stalling them and saying "gonna get yez the best fukkin deal you wait" and then it turns out the deal is the same poo poo it's always been and everyone hates it, which we all already knew.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:18
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ya may's handling has just been astonishingly irresponsible and bad, and yet entirely predictable given what we know about how she normally operates
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Mar 13, 2019 19:20
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sebzilla posted:It's like declaring that you don't want pizza when you've already ordered pizza and it's like 10 minutes away. Also half of the group are still arguing about what toppings they want. Also the pizza place has stopped taking your calls after the last time you tried to order pizza
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Mar 13, 2019 19:20
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WhatEvil posted:It is but if you're coming from anywhere east/west or not along the M6/M1 then the rail route is gonna be convoluted. Even then Oxford which is about 35 miles away as the crow flies, you have to go up to birmingham and then back down to MK if you want to do it by train. Theres a perfectly good coach at least though. Isn't the Varsity line going to link them up soon too?
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Mar 13, 2019 19:21
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Obliterati posted:Also the pizza place has stopped taking your calls after the last time you tried to order pizza And regardless of what toppings are on it, the pizza is poisonous
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Mar 13, 2019 19:23
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OwlFancier posted:It is a necessary step to figuring out an alternative, basically at the moment the house doesn't know what the gently caress it wants and May has spent basically the last two years stalling them and saying "gonna get yez the best fukkin deal you wait" and then it turns out the deal is the same poo poo it's always been and everyone hates it, which we all already knew. The crazy and tragic part is that I am confident either one of Norway+ or May's deal would pass pretty comfortably... in a secret ballot. Plenty of MPs who think No Deal is bad, but don't want to vote for one deal or the other, or for any deal at all, because they want to keep their seats.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:23
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Wrexham family 'told to leave Oxfam charity shop' after they were heard speaking Welsh - in Wales http://flip.it/o6PVe7
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Mar 13, 2019 19:24
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WhatEvil posted:No no, no no no no, no no no no, no no deal amendment. "We do what we want and we do it with pride [no matter how dumb]" - this administration's motto. (I unironically love this song.) AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Mar 13, 2019 |
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Mar 13, 2019 19:28
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Sulphagnist posted:The crazy and tragic part is that I am confident either one of Norway+ or May's deal would pass pretty comfortably... in a secret ballot. Plenty of MPs who think No Deal is bad, but don't want to vote for one deal or the other, or for any deal at all, because they want to keep their seats. I mean, many things would pass in a secret ballot... there's a reason we don't have them for elected representatives, however.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:28
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JFairfax posted:Wrexham family 'told to leave Oxfam charity shop' after they were heard speaking Welsh - in Wales And in proper Wales as well. Not Saith's lovely pretend Wales.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:32
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Aramoro posted:Birmingham isn't close to the centre of England far less the UK. Hmmm, looking at a map I think you're right, the definition used for it seems to be "furthest point away from the coast", which is at Meriden near Coventry, which is what I was referring to. It could also be the geographic centre weighted by population, but I'm honestly not sure. Here
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Mar 13, 2019 19:34
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JFairfax posted:Wrexham family 'told to leave Oxfam charity shop' after they were heard speaking Welsh - in Wales quote:We strive to ensure that inclusivity and diversity are at the heart of our approach wherever we work in the world, including here in Wales.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:35
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https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1105888231030177793 Some Tory's talking about how great the UK economy is right now (as an EU member) so brexit will be just fine and we got this
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Mar 13, 2019 19:41
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Julio Cruz posted:...MK is on the West Coast Main Line which goes into Euston? I guess I might be a bit rusty now - I keep forgetting that experience was 12-15 years ago! I don't think WCML was working at the time. We had people commuting in from all sorts of Oop North.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:42
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Spelman amendment *will* now be moved by Catherine West (Lab) who I've never heard of before
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Mar 13, 2019 19:43
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Regarde Aduck posted:And in proper Wales as well. Not Saith's lovely pretend Wales. The article says it took place in Hay On Wye, which while technically on the Welsh side of the border, is about as English as you can get. I lived in the general area for a few years, and you could go for weeks without hearing Welsh.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:47
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Stealing from the graun liveblog (which is stealing our posters anyway) https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1105857129330679808 https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1105870852267130885 https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1105873515658600449 https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1105876037236412418 Bercow might have had enough
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Mar 13, 2019 19:49
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Beeb presenter just declared on live broadcast that "both sides are putting party before country" after everyone there had grossly misrepresented what Labour wants and why they're not backing May's deal 
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Mar 13, 2019 19:50
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Ms Adequate posted:Beeb presenter just declared on live broadcast that "both sides are putting party before country" after everyone there had grossly misrepresented what Labour wants and why they're not backing May's deal yeah I saw Maitlis doing it last night, Barry was right pissed May keeps coming back with the same deal over and over after it's repeatedly rejected by the house and it's apparently Labour's fault for not caving in
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Mar 13, 2019 19:54
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baka kaba posted:Bercow might have had enough Bercow is too lenient for my taste but I do think that the main effect of May's premiership might be cementing Bercow as one of the best speakers, both in terms of his job and in terms of dunks.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:54
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AceOfFlames posted:I just don't understand why anyone would want "sovereignty". I despise nationalism and don't care about my country. I left Portugal and don't want to return. And now because of assholes like these, the whole European project is in risk of collapse. I am now used to making over 3000 Euros net and would rather die than go back to below that. My degree has no application in my home country but now apparently I should have had the loving foresight when I was 15 to become a farmer and get used to living in poverty because as it turns out I was living in an anomaly that was about to come crashing down. As well as avoid forming attachments to anyone in the UK (the only people who understand my mental health problems and are remotely empathetic to them all live there). All because of loving racists. gently caress. If it helps I've met many people from Portugal who moved to London to have a better job and a better life. I hear Portugal simply cannot compete in terms of living standards, wages, interesting jobs, job market in general etc, it's a very understandable decision to move somewhere else instead.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:56
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Liam Fox is about to get punched.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:59
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Tory tried to not move her own no deal amendment but Cooper had co signed and did.
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Mar 13, 2019 20:01
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learnincurve posted:Tory tried to not move her own no deal amendment but Cooper had co signed and did. here we go, here we loving go
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Mar 13, 2019 20:01
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lol some Tory's shouted out "it's not moved!!!" and Bercow's all yeah it is bro
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Mar 13, 2019 20:01
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It's a bad move to wish harm on people but I desire for that last 9 minute tory speaker to suffer eternal explosive diarrhea.
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Mar 13, 2019 20:01
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Combat Theory posted:It's a bad move to wish harm on people but I desire for that last 9 minute tory speaker to suffer eternal explosive diarrhea. I had to mute it
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Mar 13, 2019 20:02
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Combat Theory posted:It's a bad move to wish harm on people but I desire for that last 9 minute tory speaker to suffer eternal explosive diarrhea. that would be Disgraced Former Secretary Liam Fox to give him his full title
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Watching BBC news with my missus. We did the same last night. She has generally correct opinions but has never followed closely. The look on her face constantly when she sees the way the HoC and our MPs behave. She's currently shaking at her at Bercow screaming division.
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